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Toronto acquires James van Riemsdyk for Luke Schenn

Jun 23, 2012, 5:11 PM EDT

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The Toronto Maple Leafs and Philadelphia Flyers pulled the trigger on a deal that should help everyone involved on Saturday. The Flyers have confirmed that they will get Luke Schenn in exchange for James van Riemsdyk.

Schenn is a young defensive defenseman that goes to a Flyers team that desperately needed this kind of player. With Chris Pronger‘s availability for next season in doubt due to post-concussion syndrome, Matt Carle on the verge of testing the free agent waters, and Kimmo Timonen set to turn 39 during the 2012-13 campaign, Philadelphia had a lot of question marks when it came to its defense.

Schenn is certainly not a cure-all, and he can’t be compared to Pronger, but he does put the Flyers in a much better situation.

It’s worth noting that this deal will also unite Schenn with his brother, Brayden Schenn, making this the second major trade bringing brothers together in as many days.

Meanwhile, Toronto gets a promising young forward with top-line potential in van Riemsdyk. He’s coming off a disappointing season, but it certainly wouldn’t be a surprise if he breaks out in 2012-13, especially seeing as Toronto is likely to give him plenty of playing time.

Schenn’s annual cap hit is $650,000 less, so this also provides some mild relief for the Flyers.

Also of note, according to Columbus Dispatch’s Aaron Portzline, the Blue Jackets were counting on van Riemsdyk to be a key part of a potential Rick Nash deal. This trade might be a signal that the Philadelphia Flyers are no longer pursuing Nash.

Schenn was also rumored to be part of a potential Roberto Luongo trade with Vancouver.

  1. lionsflyersandredbirds - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    So is JVR finally going to have his breakout year in Toronto? I wish him all the best.
    Thankfully I just purchased a Simmonds jersey so I don’t feel as bad hanging my JVR up for good.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:50 PM

      Holmgren might have just broke the Maple Leafs cup drought !

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - Jun 23, 2012 at 7:26 PM

        looks like somebody forgot to take their anti-crazy pills today

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Jun 23, 2012 at 9:59 PM

        Its a joke jackhole !

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Jun 23, 2012 at 10:00 PM

      The Maple Queefs ‘s ! Canada’s Team !

  2. lordfletcher - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    I think Burke won this but it is a good deal for both teams… I just like the upside of JVR more

    • lordfletcher - Jun 23, 2012 at 8:24 PM

      it is interesting to see all the Flyer fans trash JVR now…

      and I am sure I will get a reply saying how he has been this and that for 2 years now and blah blah blah… just admit your seeing this trade thru orange and black glasses.

      Do any Flyer fans ever admit they might not have had the upper hand in a trade or any transaction.

      I am sure this now makes room for Parise / Suter / Bobby Ryan / Gandhi / Jesus / Dinosaurs

      • nothingman20 - Jun 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM

        I eagerly await the signing of Dinosaurs to play Defense. Stegasaurus and Triceratops will clearly paly the stay-at-home with big hits in the corner D we need, and T-Rex has short arms but moves the puck well and has the speed and crash-the-net attitude to play on the power play.

      • lordfletcher - Jun 23, 2012 at 8:36 PM

        that reply I was not expecting.

        KUDOS! :)

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Jun 23, 2012 at 10:06 PM

        Who’s this the Penguins shill Piere McGuire ? Iam shocked you did not fit the name Mike richards in some how ! HAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHH !

  3. eaglesfootballfan - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    The Flyers never were going to get Rick Nash because Columbus wants too much for him. The Jackets would have wanted JVR, Sean Couturier, Brayden Schenn and a couple of prospects or draft picks just for 1 player in Nash. This is a good deal for both sides because Toronto needs help with scoring and the Flyers need help on the Blue Line so they went out and got Schenn. The problem with JVR is he can’t stay healthy which is a huge problem but he is a big body that can cause havoc in front of the net. Good trade for both teams and I hope the Flyers continue to add Defenseman in front of Bryz.

  4. j9s11 - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    I think the Leafs got the better player in the deal, however I agree that it’s a win win for both sides. The Flyers are loaded with skilled forwards and they were able to move one of them to fill a need.

  5. dougr42 - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    I’m glad JVR is going somewhere he can make a difference. Homer and Lavy wasted him this year because of how well the rookies were playing. Just hope he stays healthy.

    • sheckyrimshot - Jun 23, 2012 at 6:04 PM

      they wasted him? what did they do, tell him to get injured.?

  6. dclogicatlast - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    It takes longer for power forwards to break out. Don’t like this trade for the flyers.

  7. dannythebisforbeast - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Flyers needed D. Jvr wa out half the year and offense did not miss him. He young and probably will be a force one day but we need defense now. Don’t know much about schenn hopefully he’s worth it

  8. laleafs - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Burke has us running to stand still. Killing me. Dean Lombardi is kicking his butt so badly, hard for me not to trade in my Leafs jersey for a Kings one. Most over-rated GM in hockey history.

    • lordfletcher - Jun 23, 2012 at 8:20 PM

      very detailed thoughts about this trade.

      Thanks for explaining yourself.

      -wild fan

  9. obamablowz - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    Didn’t need the JVR…..Good trade for Flyers

  10. firemarshal1 - Jun 23, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Wow! If I was a Flyers fan, I would be pissed off. Management is giving away all there better players away for crap. It reminds me of the New York Rangers in the 1980’s. Sorry Flyer fans, you’re in for a long and crappy drought of winning meaningful playoff games.

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Jun 23, 2012 at 7:18 PM

      Have you watched JVR play? What exactly does he bring to the table? It is funny how people just talk because they can. JVR was gone for half the season and the rest of the offense didn’t skip a beat. JVR is 6’3″ but plays the game as if he is 5’8″. In what way will JVR thrive in Toronto? Schenn was in the dog house and the Leafs are deep in the blue line. Schenn bring something that the Flyers sorely lack: physicality. The Flyers will not miss JVR. It was proven this year already.

      • epictron1 - Jun 23, 2012 at 7:24 PM

        THANK YOU! I’ve been saying I’ve never seen a huge player play like he’s Briere’s size. All he would do is get knocked off the puck. He has speed, but he doesn’t know how to overpower anyone, which is confusing since that’s the one thing he should be able to do.

        The other thing I could never understand, is if he is so good why couldn’t he play with Giroux? He started the year on that line and got replaced by Hartnell. It’s troubling to know that he couldn’t play with Giroux…

      • icelovinbrotha215 - Jun 23, 2012 at 7:32 PM

        We are coming from the same way of thinking. I ask everyone who defends JVR, is this guy capable of helping the Flyers win the Stanley Cup? I don’t care about games 1-82. I don’t care that his is a ‘local’ boy. He isn’t what some people make him to be. You have already said and I’ll sum up JVR’s game in one word: soft. He wasn’t able to thrive in Philly, where he had a very good support system. He isn’t going to get in Toronto. And if people think there is pressure to play and perform in Philly, Toronto (like Montreal) takes it to another level. Maple Leafs fans are more likely to have another reason to shake their heads at Mr. Burke.

  11. sjsharks66 - Jun 23, 2012 at 7:15 PM


  12. brubbed - Jun 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    A power forward is someone that wins battles in the boards and crashes the net (see hartnel/ simmonds). Jvr wants to be a playmaker that doesnt get hit. Giroux was getting all the attention against boston which opened space for jvr to do what he did. Potential doesnt win cups. Schenn is the 5th dman (6th if carle resigns) on this team but is steady. Schenn suffered last year cause the toronto forwards dont play any defense……which gets worse now that jvr is there. Ok trade. 1) i wonder who gets nash now. 2) i love how the flyers are raising others teams cap number. 3) birons returning. 4) flyers are clearing cap space with the 2 trades why??????

    • nothingman20 - Jun 23, 2012 at 8:44 PM

      Schenn had a down year last year, but he clearly has the potential to be much better than the 5th Defenseman on any team in league.

  13. nothingman20 - Jun 23, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    The Flyers needed D and their offense functioned just fine without JVR last season when he was injured.

    Toronto has some talented Defenseman and could use a playmaker like JvR.

    Both players are classic guys who have had good and bad years and could benefit from a change of scenery.

    Their salaries are 600k apart and they’re signed for the same number of years.

    This might be the most win-win trade ever.

  14. mclovinhockey - Jun 23, 2012 at 9:02 PM

    The flyers traded someone who will be a top 6 forward on the leafs for someone who will be a 5th D on the flyers.

    I wanted this trade, but the flyers should have gotten a pick next year as well. Maybe a 2nd rounder.

    JVR is a good player who never did much on a team loaded with O… Schenn is a good player who never did much on a team loaded with D.

    Smart moves by the GMs

    • obamablowz - Jun 24, 2012 at 12:33 PM

      they got rid of a nice chunk of salary too

      • icelovinbrotha215 - Jun 24, 2012 at 4:55 PM

        They don’t vary much in terms of a cap hit ($4,250,000 vs. $3,600,000) but it is a nice discount nonetheless.

  15. dawglb - Jun 23, 2012 at 9:41 PM

    The difference a year makes. A year ago, JvR was a bright, promising young player. In the last 365 days, he has failed the toughness test …. The Flyers do not put up with any softness issues. JvR showed twice in the last season that he was willing to be “not heathy enough to play”,….. To avoid trades. Buh-bye!!! In the long run, good trade for both.

  16. flyeredup - Jun 23, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    Hopefully Luke can get revenge on Kovalchuk from destroying his brothers face. Bobby Ryan would be better for Philly. I don’t like acquiring a #5 D for a top 6 F.

  17. fahmundamahbalsaq - Jun 24, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    If you can’t produce on Giroux’s line you can’t produce! Enjoy the media scrutiny and brutal fans in Toronto, JVR.

    • raoool - Jun 24, 2012 at 6:39 PM

      good luck to both. JVR has stud skills – hope he gets the mental reshaping he needs to be a star. Shenn.. haven’t seen a ton but haven’t seen anything speical the few times I’ve seen him. Anyone playing solid D will be refreshing in Philly. (see how much we fell in love with Grossman)

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