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Win or lose, is it time to put Martin Brodeur in the Conn Smythe race?

Jun 10, 2012, 1:16 PM EDT

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By now we know Jonathan Quick is the front-runner for the Conn Smythe Trophy. He’s been dominant all playoffs long and has the Kings one win away from a Stanley Cup. But what about Martin Brodeur?

Brodeur has been oozing confidence all playoffs long and showed his cool demeanor last night. His teammates sung his praises wildly even going so far as to say he’s the underdog going up against Quick. Is it time to think maybe Brodeur has a shot at winning his first Conn Smythe Trophy whether the Devils comeback to win or not? It’s a good argument.

Overall, Quick has the better numbers through the playoffs but Brodeur is lurking in the weeds. He’s got a 2.00 goals against average and a .922 save percentage and, as his teammates have made sure to note, he’s the reason why there’s a Game 6 tomorrow night.

If the Kings wrap things up on Monday, the award is almost definitely going to Quick. But if it goes seven games and say Brodeur stands on his head in Game 6 to make it happen? All bets are off. We’ve seen losing goaltenders take home the Conn Smythe before. Jean-Sebastien Giguere stole it from Brodeur in 2003 and Ron Hextall got in 1987 for helping take the scoring machine Edmonton Oilers to seven games in the finals.

What do you think? Will Brodeur steal it from Quick?

  1. atwatercrushesokoye - Jun 10, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    Maybe if the Devils come back and win but if the Kings close there’s no chance that someone other than Quick wins it.

  2. theawesomersfranchise - Jun 10, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    Zero chance in a loss

  3. fhuizar - Jun 10, 2012 at 1:46 PM


  4. tackledummy1505 - Jun 10, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    I think the refs and the NHL should win this trophy for allowing such a bysmal of a team to get away with the trap and its standing picks, constant interference, and holding that goes on all game. You all wonder why these games suck and they’re all 2-1, 1-0 and thats if there isn’t an open goal at the end of the game. Literally game 4 was dumping the puck in back and forth for 2 periods. It was so boring and repetitive you could’ve changed the channel and come back to the game and still seen the same thing going on. So I give the conn smythe award to the refs and the NHL for letting crappy hockey happen. All the teams that play exciting hockey have already been eliminated and that’s why ratings suck and no one cares about the Stanley Cup this year. You’ll be lucky if 2 million viewers will actually see the Stanley Cup being raised. Pathetic, but way to go NHL.

    • cerealrapist - Jun 10, 2012 at 1:55 PM

      I’ll assume this post was written by a 3rd grader.

      • sportsfreak13 - Jun 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM

        your giving him too much credit. More like an advanced 1st grader who’s into conspiracies

      • cerealrapist - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM

        Nah, his grammar is at least at a 2nd grade level.

      • tackledummy1505 - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM

        lol must be Devils fans. All 3 of you, who want nothing but to desperately hope the Devils win so you can have your parking lot parade. Yeah good one a 3rd grader, gee I’m so hurt by your insults. Tell me, is it really hard to watch paint dry or can you really entertain yourself when you do? I’m just curious, never watched Devil hockey that long, because I want to strangle myself around the 3rd period because I’ve seen Dancing with the Stars more exciting than the trap lol

      • tackledummy1505 - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

        By the way, ceralrapist (what a name by the way) is nah an actual word? lol yet I have the 2nd grader level lol

      • blomfeld - Jun 10, 2012 at 10:38 PM

        serial rapist ? … yes, that’s a very “nice” name pal …

      • cerealrapist - Jun 10, 2012 at 11:04 PM

        Nooo… It’s CEREAL!
        A “serial rapist” is a horrible of person, likely with antisocial disorder, who does very bad things and should be locked up in jail for life.
        Being a “CEREAL rapist” would suggest that I just love cereal. And I do! I have a bowl of it every morning.
        Nothing wrong with that.

    • kitshky - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM

      I wouldn’t say you’re in the 3rd grade … but I would say you’re in the early 2000’s.

    • creasemasta41 - Jun 10, 2012 at 3:34 PM

      If you dont like it then go watch basketball you moron

    • willfrench316 - Jun 10, 2012 at 5:05 PM

      this guy has the most dislikes ive ever seen on here, not only devils fans giving ya thumbs down but kings fans, all hockey fans. might as well keep watching dancing with the stars we know you like watching men dance anyways. leave hockey watching to us real men, maybe when you graduate grade school you’ll learn to understand that disciplined defense wins championship not flashy multiple scoring, cause look where that got those teams. ELIMINATED!!

      • cerealrapist - Jun 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM

        This has been the most entertaining thread I’ve read on this site! I don’t have a witty response to add. Thanks, Tackledummy!

    • hockeyflow33 - Jun 11, 2012 at 9:32 AM

      We must be watching different games because these have all been wicked exciting games to watch. I hate the logic that more goals equals a better game; it’s beyond ridiculous.

      You’re watching one of the best goalies currently in the league against one of the greatest to ever put the pads on. Why would you think this would be high scoring?

  5. tackledummy1505 - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    You Devils better hope and pray you can come back, because this is your only chance at it. Who do you all think Zach Parise will go to next year? Can’t pay a guy tons of money when you can only entertain a high school attendance at your games.

  6. gambleonsports - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Lol. I don’t think that you know what the trap is.

  7. sjsharks66 - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    Tackle is a troll.

    • blomfeld - Jun 10, 2012 at 10:39 PM

      and you are a golfer …

  8. chill1184 - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Tackle is a bitter Rangers fan

    • sportsfreak13 - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:28 PM

      you got the bitter part right but he is actually a flyers fan/troll

      • jimeejohnson - Jun 10, 2012 at 3:58 PM

        Bruins, Canucks, or possibly one of those Pennsylvania clubs is my guess.

  9. nyrangersfan - Jun 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    The Devils have no skill whatsoever, can’t compete with the Kings. That’s why their games are so damn boring. Is it any wonder why Parise wants off that “Mickey Mouse organization?” His talent is being wasted and he knows it.

    • martysbetter - Jun 10, 2012 at 3:07 PM

      How did the Rangers do last night?
      Oh waittttt…

    • danphipps01 - Jun 10, 2012 at 3:22 PM

      So the Rangers have less than no skill whatsoever, then? Because I’m not understanding how they beat you if they have nothi- ohhh, you’re just bitter. Righto, carry on.

      Also: how do you suppose a 3-2 series where the Devils have the last two wins suggests “they can’t compete with the Kings,” exactly?

    • jimeejohnson - Jun 10, 2012 at 4:07 PM

      Devils might just have the big Satan (Saddam Hussein) himself on their side. He resides in the Hades of California. Los Angeles, which is why the Kings looked like they were gonna sweep, but Satan said “wait a minute” and let the Devils come back! Rangers choked on a New Yawk bagel, Philly on a cheesesteak, Pittsburgh on a sandwich with fries stuffed inside the bread; Phoenix choked on some tumbleweeds….Vancouver on some salmon!!! Boston on some chowdah!!!

      You’ve heard of sarcasm. This was pure craziness, with food the antagonist. You can’t choke on avocado, which is why the Kings could, go, all the way!

    • cerealrapist - Jun 10, 2012 at 10:15 PM

      WHAT!?!?! Rangers fans are still commenting on this site? About the Devils!? And saying things other than “good series, congrats…”?!?

      Even my friends who are Flyers fans were gracious in defeat. Who knew Philly would be the more classy bunch?

  10. stakex - Jun 10, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Brodeur hasn’t even been the best goalie in the finals… let alone the entire playoffs. So there is zero chance he will win the Conn Smythe in a loss, and hes not even a lock to win it if the Devils win.

    In fact, I think its far more likely that Quick will win the Conn Smythe even if the Kings happen to lose. After all, the Conn Smythe is not awarded for outstanding play during a couple games of the final round… its awarded to the player judged most valuable to his team during the entire playoffs. Brodeur wasn’t bad during the first three rounds, but his play certainly was not why the Devils made it to the finals. Hell, one could also argue a couple weak goals by Brodeur helped the Devils crawl into a 3-0 hole to start the finals. Hardly MVP material.

    The only way Brodeur would win the CS is:

    Side Note: When Jean-Sébastien Giguère won it as the losing goalie he was hands down by far not only the best goalie in the playoffs and the finals… he was the best player in the playoffs without question. That is something that you can’t even come close to saying about Brodeur this year. If the Devils win game six and the Kings end up winning it in game seven, Quick should win it hands down. If he doesn’t, he got screwed very hard by someone who wanted to make a headline story.

    • jkr3 - Jun 10, 2012 at 6:24 PM

      Brodeur has made some awesome saves in the playoffs, particularly in the OT games against Florida and in the first few Rangers games. But he hasn’t been as dominant as Quick. Even if the Devils win, Quick will win it.

      And in 2003, Giguere never should have won. It shoudl have gone to Scott Niedermyer, but (I’m guessing here) the votes probably split between him and Brodeur.

      Also, does anyone know when they vote on it? If it goes 7 games, do they vote on it before or after the game? They seem to award it pretty quickly.

    • martyb30 - Jun 10, 2012 at 7:41 PM

      Brodeur had 3 shutouts in the 2003 final alone. The only reason Giguere won it was because of all the stupid hype of his good stretch in the 3rd round against the wild. Brodeur got robbed in 2003, hands down.

      • blkeskimo1785 - Jun 10, 2012 at 10:40 PM

        I agree that Brodeur should have won the Conn Smythe that year, but Giguere did a lot more than just stop the Wild. They swept the Red Wings (albeit with a maligned CuJo) and beat the Stars in 6 games (Quintuple OverTime!) before sweeping the Wild.

  11. tackledummy1505 - Jun 10, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    So let me get this, people like when their team sets on defense for an entire game and waits for the other team to screw up so they can get some offense and that’s entertaining? lol you people are a joke. It’s not just me, it’s guys like Scottie Bowman and others who see this. This Stanley Cup doesn’t even have half of the excitement that game 4 Flyers/Penguins series. That’s one game against all 5 of the Stanley Cup. lol ratings don’t lie either people. Yes winning is everything in sports, but money talks. Though I guess my 3rd grade intelligence doesn’t understand that. Hockey should be exciting, not watching grown men hug. Though Devil fans don’t care, because they’re more people playing farmville than there is Devil fans put together. Kings will close it out at home. It was nice while it lasted for Jersey Shore lol

    • RexCanCoach - Jun 10, 2012 at 4:42 PM

      its great hockey because both teams are defensive minded. maybe you should play the game you pu$$y then you would understand.

      and if the Kings choke in game 6 like they did in game 5, the cup goes back to NJ for 4th time a$$hole.

    • jkr3 - Jun 10, 2012 at 6:21 PM

      Dude, You have no idea what you’re talking about. The Devils don’t trap, and neither do the Kings. Both teams dump the puck in and have aggressive forechecks, and both have their D pinch all the time. The team that played closest to trapping was the Rangers. Neither the Devils or the Kings sits on their D waiting for mistakes. And I’m sure the ratings this year would be SO MUCH BETTER if the Flyers were in it because only the Flyers can make people stop watching basketball…

      • jkonigsb - Jun 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM

        Pay no attention to Tackle, if he knew what the trap was he would know the Devils don’t run it anymore. They are a fore-checking team that has won the corner battles and have set up individual matchups shutting down Brown and Kopitar the last few games. And not only has Quick become vulnerable, the Devils have gotten under his skin, as evidence in the cheap shot he threw at the player (can’t remember who it was) that was taken down and pushed into the crease.

        The Devils are actually getting healthier with the re-insertion of Sykora and Tallinder, and if Kovalchuk gets some good rest hopefully he will be able to skate at even 80%, because he clearly cannot make cuts, stick handle, or shoot like the player everyone has seen.

  12. cerealrapist - Jun 11, 2012 at 8:15 AM

    Brodeur set the record for shutouts in the playoffs with SEVEN! SEVEN SHUTOUTS! Including 3 in the Stanley Cup Finals, and the losing team’s goalie won it! Anything can happen, I guess. The NHL kinda owes Marty a Conn Smythe.

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