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	<title>Comments on: AHL: Oops, that goal shouldn&#8217;t have counted</title>
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		<title>By: lesleyvissersfacelift</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/08/ahl-oops-that-goal-shouldnt-have-counted/comment-page-1/#comment-79196</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lesleyvissersfacelift]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your interpretation too.  Difficult call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your interpretation too.  Difficult call.</p>
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		<title>By: 28giroux28</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[28giroux28]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 03:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While this does make a certain amount of sense, the problem with your interpretation lies in how you defined a SOG. You say that it is not a true SOG because Kostka did not intend to hit that not. That does not matter, however, as a SOG is defined as any shot that either enters the goal or requires a save by the goaltender. That is why deflections, strang hops of blocked passes, certain face-off wins and even bounces off the station are considered SOG&#039;s.

As to your second point, I actually think your right, except &quot;the goal shall be disallowed as the original shot was off-side,&quot; may mean that once the shot is taken during an off-sides delay, any goals are discounted regardless of how long it takes for the puck to enter the goal or the position of the players at that time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this does make a certain amount of sense, the problem with your interpretation lies in how you defined a SOG. You say that it is not a true SOG because Kostka did not intend to hit that not. That does not matter, however, as a SOG is defined as any shot that either enters the goal or requires a save by the goaltender. That is why deflections, strang hops of blocked passes, certain face-off wins and even bounces off the station are considered SOG&#8217;s.</p>
<p>As to your second point, I actually think your right, except &#8220;the goal shall be disallowed as the original shot was off-side,&#8221; may mean that once the shot is taken during an off-sides delay, any goals are discounted regardless of how long it takes for the puck to enter the goal or the position of the players at that time.</p>
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		<title>By: lesleyvissersfacelift</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lesleyvissersfacelift]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 01:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with this interpretation.  I would have posted the same thing had you not beaten me to it. I am surprised the AHL said the refs got it wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this interpretation.  I would have posted the same thing had you not beaten me to it. I am surprised the AHL said the refs got it wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Nichols</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/08/ahl-oops-that-goal-shouldnt-have-counted/comment-page-1/#comment-79113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Nichols]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If the puck is shot on goal during a delayed off-side, the play shall be allowed to continue under the normal clearing-the-zone rules. Should the puck, as a result of this shot, enter the defending team’s goal during a delayed off-side, either directly or off the goalkeeper, a player or an official on the ice, the goal shall be disallowed as the original shot was off-side. The face-off will be conducted at the face-off spot in the zone closest to the point of origin of the shot or at the nearest face-off spot in the neutral zone adjacent to the attacking zone of the offending team.&quot;

1. The puck was not shot on goal, it was a dump attempt that took a weird bounce. Just because it goes in the books as a SOG and Kostka gets credit for the goal doesn&#039;t mean it was an actual SOG.
2. If you want to count it as a SOG, the &quot;the play shall be allowed to continue under the normal clearing-the-zone rules&quot; clause could be interpreted as meaning that as long as the players are back onside before the puck goes in the net, they&#039;re good to go. The were back onside by the time the puck went in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the puck is shot on goal during a delayed off-side, the play shall be allowed to continue under the normal clearing-the-zone rules. Should the puck, as a result of this shot, enter the defending team’s goal during a delayed off-side, either directly or off the goalkeeper, a player or an official on the ice, the goal shall be disallowed as the original shot was off-side. The face-off will be conducted at the face-off spot in the zone closest to the point of origin of the shot or at the nearest face-off spot in the neutral zone adjacent to the attacking zone of the offending team.&#8221;</p>
<p>1. The puck was not shot on goal, it was a dump attempt that took a weird bounce. Just because it goes in the books as a SOG and Kostka gets credit for the goal doesn&#8217;t mean it was an actual SOG.<br />
2. If you want to count it as a SOG, the &#8220;the play shall be allowed to continue under the normal clearing-the-zone rules&#8221; clause could be interpreted as meaning that as long as the players are back onside before the puck goes in the net, they&#8217;re good to go. The were back onside by the time the puck went in.</p>
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		<title>By: lsxphotog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lsxphotog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, it really doesn&#039;t matter because the Admirals have dominated the AHL this year and the playoffs, but WOW, what a bad call. It has to be painful to lose a game to a botched call on a fluke goal. Man...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it really doesn&#8217;t matter because the Admirals have dominated the AHL this year and the playoffs, but WOW, what a bad call. It has to be painful to lose a game to a botched call on a fluke goal. Man&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: quonce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[quonce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For anyone who hasn&#039;t seen Norfolk play this year, this team is legit. 20+ game winning streak during the season and have just been steamrolling everyone.

Horrific call, but Norfolk was winning the Calder regardless. They are a better team than Columbus Montreal and if not for Stamkos, I think they could rival their parent club Tampa.

One of the best Ahl teams in years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone who hasn&#8217;t seen Norfolk play this year, this team is legit. 20+ game winning streak during the season and have just been steamrolling everyone.</p>
<p>Horrific call, but Norfolk was winning the Calder regardless. They are a better team than Columbus Montreal and if not for Stamkos, I think they could rival their parent club Tampa.</p>
<p>One of the best Ahl teams in years.</p>
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		<title>By: greej1938l</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greej1938l]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awful.  3-0. Coulda been 2-1 series count]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awful.  3-0. Coulda been 2-1 series count</p>
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		<title>By: ruddigervancity</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/08/ahl-oops-that-goal-shouldnt-have-counted/comment-page-1/#comment-79092</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ruddigervancity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry - two offside.  Still brutal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; two offside.  Still brutal.</p>
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		<title>By: ruddigervancity</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/08/ahl-oops-that-goal-shouldnt-have-counted/comment-page-1/#comment-79089</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ruddigervancity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually count three players offside.   That&#039;s brutal.  Almost as bad as the Admirals&#039; jerseys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually count three players offside.   That&#8217;s brutal.  Almost as bad as the Admirals&#8217; jerseys.</p>
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		<title>By: stakex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stakex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, thats just awful. 

I wouldn&#039;t expect that bad of a call in a D league game, let alone a 2nd tier pro league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thats just awful. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t expect that bad of a call in a D league game, let alone a 2nd tier pro league.</p>
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