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Flyers GM Holmgren on Pronger: “He struggles”

Jun 6, 2012, 2:16 PM EDT

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Philadelphia Flyers GM Paul Holmgren met with the media on Tuesday and gave an update on concussed captain Chris Pronger, one that cast doubt on Pronger’s chances for returning at the start of next season.

“I think it’s too soon,” Holmgren said. “We’re still holding out hope that he can, that he starts to get better [and] turns a corner in that regard, and I would say right now there haven’t been any signs that show us that that’s in the near future.

“He continues to have some good days and then some bad days. So I don’t know if that’s any update. He struggles.”

Doctors diagnosed Pronger with severe post-concussion syndrome on Dec. 15, the last in what was an injury-plagued start to the season (he played just 13 games all told.)

Since then, very little has come out of the Flyers camp in terms of status updates, though Holmgren did shoot down Pronger retirement rumors last week.

  1. sjsharks66 - Jun 6, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    I don’t think pronger should come back after this injury. If he gets hit again it could be really dangerous.

  2. theawesomersfranchise - Jun 6, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Holding out hope that he can play Homer? Hope that he can what? Play some more and hope like hell he doesn’t get hit hard enough to worsen “SEVERE Post-concussion syndrome”?

    The Flyers should be talking him out of playing hockey ever again. Instead you have Homer shooting down ideas of retirement, saying he is struggling, yet he hopes to have him back on his blue line

    • hrudey - Jun 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

      Aren’t there cap considerations in play, though? I think if he’s “injured” they can still consider him on long term injured reserve and thus get some cap relief, but if he’s retired then they’re SOL (assuming it’s an over 35 contract, which I think is fair but I haven’t bothered to look up). Honestly, at this point I hope that’s the case – if they want to game the system so that the contract doesn’t hurt them, that’s a far lesser evil than putting him out to play if he’s really that bad off. Ideally, he recovers and is able to enjoy his remaining years with full mental faculties, and whether that means he doesn’t play another game or not is secondary.

      • stakex - Jun 6, 2012 at 4:48 PM

        Not to mention if Pronger was to retire, he wouldn’t get paid the rest of his contract. If hes on IR however, he does. Why do you think Marc Savard hasn’t retired yet, even though hes never going to play again? And who can blame them? They have to think about their future, and families. Its in their best interest to stay on IR and collect their pay, and in Prongers case doing so keeps his contract off the cap.

        With that said, I think there is at least a chance Pronger will play again. Its highly unlikely, but its not as impossible as Savard playing again.

  3. mclovinhockey - Jun 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Yup, better keep him on ltir

  4. phillyphever - Jun 6, 2012 at 4:10 PM

    He’s not coming back. As soon as the NHL announces the amnesty clause, the first player to get that will be Pronger so he can retire with the money the Flyers still owe him.

    • claysbar - Jun 6, 2012 at 9:46 PM

      Can’t buy out an injured player

      • claysbar - Jun 6, 2012 at 9:49 PM

        Sorry, typed too fast/thought too slow, can’t buy out Pronger, signed a contract over 35. Unless he is traded, they have to pay him whether he plays or not. The only relief they get is if he can be put on the LTIR to get the cap credit.

      • phillyphever - Jun 7, 2012 at 1:54 PM

        Do you know what an amnesty clause is? Is when a team can buy out a player without having it affecting their cap. Doesn’t matter if Pronger has the 35+, they can amnesty him and not have his hit affect the cap.

      • claysbar - Jun 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM

        Not sure if that would be affected by it or not. Good call though.

  5. scionofflame - Jun 6, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    Pronger and the Flyers need to be thinking not about what happens when he’s recovered. They need to be thinking about what happens when he takes a nasty hit again.

    Seriously, the guy is a defenseman and a very physical one at that. He’s -going- to get hurt. I think Prongs needs to think about retirement more than he needs to think about when he can get back on the ice.

  6. bobhpine - Jun 6, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    No pens fans saying “good I’m glad he wrecked his brain.”

    Stark contrast to the filthy fans who revel in Crosby’s concussion troubles.

    • govtminion - Jun 6, 2012 at 6:02 PM

      Nope, only someone trying to rile them up for some reason with a comment like that.

    • crosberries - Jun 6, 2012 at 7:46 PM

      Kind of ironic that philthy fans are the hardest on Crosby about him being a wimp. I feel bad for pronger no one wants to see someone leave the game they love from injury. He’s a great player

      • stevierod - Jun 7, 2012 at 8:18 AM

        crosberries and bobhpine, you must not have been looking at the post boards because while most Flyers fans think Crosby cries (because he does), I remember reading and even saying that I hoped he got better, and that the league is better when he is playing. There were a number of people who echoed those very thoughts…

        Your idiotic and attempt to anger the Flyers fans is laughable.

  7. chiadam - Jun 6, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    But the season will not be starting until January or so. That might help him get back in time for the start of the season.

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