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Do Suter and Parise want to play for the same team?

May 25, 2012, 9:40 AM EDT

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Zach Parise and Ryan Suter are by far the two best players with the potential to become unrestricted free agents this summer – not including Teemu Selanne and Nicklas Lidstrom, who are assumed to be limiting themselves to re-signing with their current squad or retiring.

Getting either Parise or Suter would be a huge boost to any club, but the popular rumor out there is that the two want to play together next season.

Given how much money either one of them would command on the free agent market, that significantly limits their possibilities. For example, the New Jersey Devils want to keep Parise and would, in an ideal world, love to add Suter too. However, doing so would significantly muddy their cap situation – especially if the new CBA ends up reducing the salary cap. Similarly, other interested parties like the Philadelphia Flyers and New York Rangers would have a tough time finding room for both of them under the cap without getting very creative.

One team that seems to have the right combination of desire, reputation, and cap space is the Detroit Red Wings.

“Lots of us were at an event last year, and they were taking quite a bit of ribbing about it,” said one hockey official to the Detroit News. The person asked to remain anonymous.

“I recall specifically someone walking up to them in the parking lot and saying, ‘Hey, I hear you guys are both with the Red Wings next year!’

“They were pretty sheepish about it. You know, smiling, but not saying much at all.”

Of course, all this needs to be taken with a grain of salt. There’s a chance that both players could end up re-signing with their respective clubs. Parise in particular is an interesting situation because his team might end up winning the Stanley Cup. Additionally, even if they do both make it to the free agent market, they might not end up with the same team. Still, it’s an interesting scenario and both players have a lot of control over their futures.

  1. devilscup950003 - May 25, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Do writers just throw this crap out for fun or what?

  2. mydadyourmom - May 25, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    Nonsense.

  3. lordfletcher - May 25, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Minnesota Wild !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • bethgoesglobal - May 27, 2012 at 1:49 AM

      Sounds good to me!!!! We can always dare to dream :-)

  4. pone27 - May 25, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Unless Suter and Parise want to negotiate who wants to take a pay cut, no way they both land on the same team.

    Come on Ryan, do you really think this will happen? Seriously.

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 25, 2012 at 1:56 PM

      Wild have cap room for both. Tom Gilbert is recruiting both, hard. He played at Wisconsin with Suter and played youth hockey with Parise.

      • lordfletcher - May 25, 2012 at 7:17 PM

        and both players have family in MN and or WI.

        Minny is a possible destination for both players. If they land Suter and Parise, Latendresse will be a cap casualty…. Then after 2013, MN loses Backstroms / Bouchards / Heatley’s contracts…. they have plenty of money to spend… I could see Heater ending his career in MN if he takes a massive pay cut. He is a great locker room guy but gets a bad rap (for obvious reasons per his past)

        Go Wild

  5. scionofflame - May 25, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    I’m not counting out how aggressively their respective teams might pursue them, and I certainly hope Suter doesn’t end up with the Red Wings. I’d hate for him to go straight to a division rival.

  6. vindicatus - May 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    This is “popular opinion?” The article quotes secondhand, overheard conversations from anonymous sources.

    So since more than one of the author’s imaginary friends thinks Parise and Suter are headed to Detroit next year, that makes it popular opinion?

  7. broadstbully33 - May 25, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    they will both be in orange and black next year! yea yea the cap the cap homer is a cap wiz and will make it happen bye bye jvr carle jagr and ??

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM

      Only if the Flyers had more than 3 million to spend on free agency with 3 open roster spots

  8. dsd3 - May 25, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Sounds like crap to me.

  9. ricky9984 - May 25, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    Both coming to the wild! Go get them fletcher!

  10. darksidecowboy - May 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    Just move to Detroit already and get a room while your at it! Detroit always signs the big fish, lame but reality.

  11. atwatercrushesokoye - May 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    Both are going to be big ticket players, both in their primes, they will either have to take less money or 10 year contracts to make it work…now with the CBA being up this year and the league widely expected to push for a reduction in the cap and also restrictions on long term contracts is there any team that’s going to risk tying up all of their money in them both?

    Yes the Wild have the cap room now, but they only have $17 million in room with 16 players under contract, say you get each for an average of $5 million per year (very unlikely) you now have 5 spots to fill on your roster with only $7 million to do it, not to mention several players have contracts up after next year, including Backstrom.

    Again in a world where the Wild sign both for a cap hit of $5 million per year, in 2013-14 they have $28.25 million tied up in 5 players (Heatly, Koivu, Suter, Parise and Gilbert) add in another $6 million (assuming he doesn’t get a raise) for Backstrom and you got what will probably be well over half your cap gone in 6 players.

    Sorry Wild fans the economics just aren’t there to sign both.

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM

      Latendresse and Genoway are both restricted free agents that won’t be back that adds up to another 3.7 million that will be freed up giving the Wild close to 21 million to spend in free agency. They will give Charlie Coyle and Jonas Brodin every opportunity to make this team as rookies and would make less than 1 million a piece. They most likely will resign Josh Harding or a backup goalie for less than 1 million. Tyler Cuma, Brett Bulmer, and Jason Zucker who all played a handful of games for the Wild all in their rookie deals most likely will make the team. That right there is 22 players with close to 21 million available.

      Your fatal flaw about trying up half their cap space with 6 players is that Backstrom and his 6 million dollar contract and Pierre-Marc Bouchard’s over paid 4 million and Matt Cullen’ 3.5 million cap hits all come off the books next summer. If you want to go further than that, the follow summer Dany Heatley’s 10 million cap hit comes off.

      I’m failing to see your logic on how the Wild cant afford both.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - May 25, 2012 at 5:00 PM

        All my numbers are from cap geek.com which DOES NOT factor in restricted free agent tenders. The Wild have $17 million in cap space with 16 players under contract.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - May 25, 2012 at 5:11 PM

        Dany Heatley’s cap hit is $7.5 million per year not $10 million, also my “fatal flaw” doesn’t factor in those players coming off the books because I was talking about 6 players and their cap hits. It’s great that Dany Heatley’s $7.5 million dollar cap hit is coming off the books BUT that’s two seasons from now.

        But since you brought it up in 2013-14 the Wild have 9 players under contract counting for $28.7 million (add in Parise, Suter and Backstrom at a minimum $16 million) and you now have 12 players at $44 million.

        In 2014-15 the Wild have 2 contracts at $9.6 million, add in those 3 very unlikely contracts and you’re at 5 contracts for around $26 million.

        The cap is expected to be LOWERED going forward, the likelihood of the Wild (or any team) signing both is very unlikely.

        Feel free to look at http://www.capgeek.com if you don’t believe my numbers.

    • lordfletcher - May 25, 2012 at 7:20 PM

      the Wild can fill all their roster spots with rookies and their cheap contracts.

      Signing both Parise and Suter is possible, very possible (from a cap room stance that is.)

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 25, 2012 at 8:10 PM

        This coming season is Backstrom’s final season. 6 million off the books. Matt Hackett will be starting making less than 1 million.

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 25, 2012 at 8:13 PM

      Kind of like what I said. 17 million plus the 3.7 from Genoway and Latendresse makes close to 21 million. Those two spots will be taken by rookies.

  12. lordfletcher - May 25, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    the Wild will not have to worry about cap issues for another 5 years. they have several prospects and money coming off the books after next year…

    Hackett
    Gustafsson
    Kuemper
    Coyle
    Bulmer
    Lucia
    Haula
    Zucker
    Larsson
    Granlund
    Phillips
    Brodin
    2012 draft picks

  13. GenoPringles - May 25, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    I’m shocked the Wild have players on their roster that make more than a mil/year. I thought some of their fans make more than the top line guys

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 25, 2012 at 8:11 PM

      Backstrom and Bouchard were bad contracts from previous GM

    • bethgoesglobal - May 27, 2012 at 2:04 AM

      I’m sure there are plenty of fans everywhere that are making more than the best players in the NHL- NYR, MTL, CHI, LAK, SJS, and yes even in PIT !!

  14. letsgosjsharks - May 29, 2012 at 6:47 PM

    It would be a kind welcome in San Jose for the both of them!

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