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Discuss: Devils dominate Rangers, tie series 2-2

May 21, 2012, 10:45 PM EDT

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Get your favorite “Keep it in the room” jokes ready, because John Tortorella probably won’t be very happy after the New Jersey Devils took it to the New York Rangers by a score of 4-1 in Game 4. That ties the series at 2-2, opening up the “are the Rangers tired?” can of worms along with plenty of other questions.

Speaking of which, let’s get cracking.

  • So, are the Rangers tired or are the Devils just that much better?
  • Along similar lines, the Rangers seem primed for possibly another seven-game series. Is this a team that needs to be in dire situations to truly bring a great effort. Or are they just not all that good?
  • Michael Del Zotto found himself in Tortorella’s doghouse in Game 4 but did contribute to the Rangers lone goal in the closing moments. How should his struggles be handled?
  • The Devils are a little fresher and some might say they have the momentum. The Rangers hold home-ice advantage. Who’s in a better situation as the series morphs into a “best of three” skirmish?
  • Game 4 showed that the hate is starting to boil over in this series. Is that to the Devils’ or Rangers’ advantage or just a wash?
  • Rangers fans: who ranks as the biggest goat? Actually, scratch that; who’s the biggest goat beyond MDZ?
  1. chill1184 - May 21, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Over/Under on Torts word count?

  2. blueblood86 - May 21, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    15 words

  3. mrpigs - May 21, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    Rupp owning like 3 devils at one time tonight was awesome!!!

    • chill1184 - May 21, 2012 at 11:04 PM

      I guess being a thug is the new classy in the eyes of Rangers fans. Looking forward to the excuses your propaganda houses are going to squawk out tomorrow.

  4. blueblood86 - May 21, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    Rangers in 6 Lundqvist won’t play like this again.

  5. cmdrsmooth - May 21, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    Dirty Rangers.

  6. devilscup950003 - May 21, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    definitely under.

  7. sk1rmish - May 21, 2012 at 11:11 PM

    Lol chill shut it. Every team plays dirty once in a while. It’s a rivalry, it’s the playoffs, and the devils worked the rangers. What Rupp did is part of the game. Just keep your comments out of here. Irrelevant idiot.

    • chill1184 - May 21, 2012 at 11:16 PM

      Whatever internet tough, go cry to your god Mike Francesa, it was a thug move and you know it. Are the Rangers trying to be like the Flyers, sure looked like it there. As usual Torts thinks he’s above the rules and DeBoer takes it in stride.

  8. j0ey15 - May 21, 2012 at 11:34 PM

    A thug move? Lol that hit was clean there shouldve never been a call on it and if you think Brodeur didn’t say a word as Rupp skated by your in denial lol it’s part of the game don’t cry about it… If anything Kovelchuks stick to the balls on Callahan was a “thug” move lol you must be a basketball fan haha

    • chill1184 - May 22, 2012 at 7:25 AM

      For the record I don’t watch the NBA. If Kovy or Parise took a cheap shot at the “king” you would’ve called it a thug move so don’t kid yourself. The hypocrisy of Rangers fans is unbelievable, right on par with Obama supporters. It wouldn’t surprise me if your an Obama supporter yourself

  9. homerx - May 21, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    How quickly we forget how the Devils gooned it up in the regular season. Any time your team is playing like $hit you send a few tough guys out for a spark. He should have never been called in the first place.

    And Cally takes a stick to the gut but there are offsetting penalties, figure that one out.

    • teaspoon1731 - May 22, 2012 at 1:13 PM

      well, that was because cally decked him afterwards. totally warrented retaliation mind you, but that’s why they were offsetting.

  10. andman76 - May 22, 2012 at 2:09 AM

    I’m unbiased on this one (LA Kings fan), and I have to say that the Devils are a pretty classy team and the Rangers are thugs, plain and simple.

    It’s amazing that the powers that be let this stuff go on at all. It’s not just the punch to Brodeur, which is nuts. It’s the slash to Elias, the elbow to Volchenkov. I’ve been watching and no matter what that sleazy Tortorella guy says, the Devils legitimately play clean.

    It would be nice if clean beat dirty this time.

    • giantsfan428 - May 22, 2012 at 3:51 AM

      Thank you. Finally someone on these comment sections that sees what’s actually going on in this series. I’m a Devils fan so everyone I’ve talked to about this dismisses my gripes about the dirty shots by the Rangers as just bias. I like to consider myself a pretty unbiased guy when it comes to sports, no matter who I root for, and the Rangers are probably one of the dirtier teams as a whole as I’ve seen in the playoffs, right up there with the Flyers. Tortorella is one of the few coaches who pisses me off. Rex Ryan I can stand because he’s a braggart whether he wins or loses. But Tortorella absolutely refuses to blame his team to a fault. Win? I think I’ll brag. Lose? The refs sucked, the other team cheated, and I’ll just tell my guys to play dirtier. How he (or anyone, really) could think that Rupp hit was clean is beyond me. Clearly left his feet on the hit, arms outstretched, and then the unprovoked shove on Brodeur just REEKS of class for the Rangers. And yet every Rangers fan I know will die defending Tortorella and swears it’s just “chippy” play. Incredible. I’m right there with you, hoping clean beats dirty this time. And I’m not saying the Devils have been angels this series; they’ve had a hit here and there that wasn’t exactly clean, but nowhere near as much as the Rangers. Although since I’m a Boston College student I wouldn’t exactly be disappointed if Kreider won a Stanley Cup before even playing a regular season game.

      • nicknyhc - May 22, 2012 at 6:26 AM

        When did Torts accuse the opposing team of cheating? Please direct me to that video.

        Torts doesn’t refuse to say his team played poorly. Earlier in the series a reporter asked him a question about how he felt about his team not scoring on a 4 minute powerplay and Torts flat out said “Our powerplay sucked”.

        Speaking of dirty hits…..I’m sure you’ll come out and say that Kolvachuk’s spear to the gut/balls of Callahan was completely clean also.

        As far as the hit on Marty, yeah it was dirty. The guy has been running his mouth non-stop in interviews talking trash about NYC, Rangers fans all being rich, Henry, etc. Marty has ALWAYS been classless. Refusing to shake hands during the ceremonial handshake, diving, embellishing for the sake of getting calls. The guy is without a doubt one of the all time greatest goalies, but he’s always a piece of trash.

      • nicknyhc - May 22, 2012 at 6:26 AM

        When did Torts accuse the opposing team of cheating? Please direct me to that video.

        Torts doesn’t refuse to say his team played poorly. Earlier in the series a reporter asked him a question about how he felt about his team not scoring on a 4 minute powerplay and Torts flat out said “Our powerplay sucked”.

        Speaking of dirty hits…..I’m sure you’ll come out and say that Kolvachuk’s spear to the gut/balls of Callahan was completely clean also.

        As far as the hit on Marty, yeah it was dirty. The guy has been running his mouth non-stop in interviews talking trash about NYC, Rangers fans all being rich, Henry, etc. Marty has ALWAYS been classless. Refusing to shake hands during the ceremonial handshake, diving, embellishing for the sake of getting calls. The guy is without a doubt one of the all time greatest goalies, but he’s also a piece of trash.

    • homerx - May 22, 2012 at 6:18 AM

      Again I point you to the regular season Devils (how quickly we forget) and the fact that the Rupp hit was clean. Stop looking for something that’s not there because you don’t like the coach. The brodeur hit was obviously cheap but let’s not blow this out of proportion and criticize the whole team. You only need to go back to the first two series the Rangers played and OTT and WAS were 1000 times worse then the Rangers ever were.

    • godevs - May 22, 2012 at 10:44 PM

      Your right…what you don’t realize is that the Ranger fans wear these funny rose colored glasses where they see things that nobody else sees. They also drink excessively at games and leave their pay checks at the bar and usually stupor home after a demeaning poor performance. When they wake up from their stupor, they see clips of their low class coach making a fool of himself and then try to be like him cause they thing that makes them special…what a bunch!

  11. frek5 - May 22, 2012 at 7:25 AM

    Brodeur got merely a push to the chest and played it up as if he took a left hook in the chin from Ali. Cheap shot? Please. What sport are we watching here.

    • michflaguy - May 22, 2012 at 12:29 PM

      The point is that the idiot Rupp just completely energized and motivated a Hall-of-Fame goalie – and the rest of his team – at the WORST possible time of the playoffs.
      Rupp is almost as stupid as his bush-league coach.
      If you’re a Rangers fan and you lose this series…remember the Rupp cheap-shot and the amateur response from your coach.

  12. teaspoon1731 - May 22, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    Anyone who thinks the shot on Brodeur wasn’t a cheap shot is an idiot. It’s an unwritten rule of hockey that you don’t touch goalies. It’s a written rule that you can’t touch them while they’re in their net.

    That game was getting chippy long before the Rupp incident happened, and Devils players were just as bad as Rangers (ie, Cally getting sticked in the groin). I don’t condone what happened, but it seems to be how hockey is always played, regardless of the team. If it’s a close game, things like that don’t happen. Rangers were getting owned, so they have a physical guy send a message. It says nothing about the class of either team, it’s the sport and it’s how it’s always been.

  13. j0ey15 - May 22, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    Hypocrisy? Lol I played professional sports I know what it takes, how much hard wok goes into making it to the playoffs after a grueling season, and how emotions get high during a big game… They create these dumb blogs so morons who think they know the game or had a great time playing in there backyard can come on here and say “ooo that’s a cheap shot” “suspend him he’s classless”.. Do us a favor and save it for the birds.. Your complaining about cheap shots? It’s the playoffs everyone is going to get hit DEAL WITH IT

    • danphipps01 - May 22, 2012 at 7:36 PM

      Cute, but I don’t buy it. It’s easy to write one sentence claiming you’ve been a pro. It’s quite a bit harder to actually make it. I figure you’re like just about everyone else on this blog – a loudmouth armchair expert. By all means, prove me wrong.

  14. dannythebisforbeast - May 22, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    It’s playoff hockey. You talk like a bunch of pu$$ies. Sound like women. We’re classy their thugs. Waaaa.

  15. j0ey15 - May 23, 2012 at 1:15 PM

    Hahaaaa danphipps you must be one of those guys I’m talking about who thinks he’s about to win the world series during whiffle ball.. I’m sorry if I struck a nerve

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