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Giroux didn’t think he’d get suspended

May 8, 2012, 1:49 PM EDT

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Claude Giroux was thinking the same thing a lot of people were thinking after Sunday’s game that saw the Flyers’ star forward receive a two-minute minor for hitting New Jersey’s Dainius Zubrus in the head.

“I didn’t think I was going to get suspended,” Giroux told reporters today, as per

Granted, Giroux recognizes the fact the NHL wants “to get the head hitting out of the game,” and he admits his visible frustration with the referees prior to the hit was “one of the reasons why I had to get suspended.”

On the other hand, “I’ve seen it (the replay). It’s hard to say what’s a suspension or not. Obviously I hit his head with my shoulder. I still don’t think I jumped, my elbow was down. It wasn’t my intention to hit his head.”

The key line is probably this one: “It’s hard to say what’s a suspension or not.”

That’s not necessarily a criticism of league disciplinarian Brendan Shanahan. He’d probably agree with Giroux. With all the variables that have to be considered in each instance, it is hard to say. But somebody has to say it, and Shanahan’s the one.

  1. spavs412 - May 8, 2012 at 1:56 PM

    Flyer criers here it comes ….. Waaaaaaa

    • wicky888 - May 8, 2012 at 3:40 PM

      Beat it troll

    • drewsylvania - May 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM


    • crosberries - May 8, 2012 at 4:03 PM

      I just don’t get why I was suspended. I got away with trying to kick people with a razor blade on my foot. He should just be happy this is the first of the playoffs.

      • maalea - May 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

        This Comming from a fan of the team with a big slew foot history. Malkin was better this past season but he was infamous for that.

        I’m sure Ranger fas will agree on this one.

      • maalea - May 8, 2012 at 5:26 PM

        Ranger fans

      • crosberries - May 8, 2012 at 7:04 PM


  2. sweezz - May 8, 2012 at 1:58 PM

    Well, this may teach him a lesson. Pronger was getting on him last year about his showmanship, and me first attitude. If the Flyers can pull out a win without him, it speaks volumes for the type of player he is. Granted he does have a boat load of assists, but it does seem he’s a me first gimmie gimmie guy. Regardless, I anit giving up on my Flyers yet. The fat lady is in the building, but we need to shut her up.

    • dsd3 - May 8, 2012 at 2:02 PM

      “Granted he does have a boat load of assists, but it does seem he’s a me first gimmie gimmie guy. ”

      Hahahaha, funniest thing I’ve read today.

      • sweezz - May 8, 2012 at 2:09 PM

        In game 3, when vorachek is at the devils blue line yelling G! G! G! and noone in front of him, and Giroux is skating up from his own end with 2 defenders on him, skates to the line and gets slammed up against the boards and causes a turnover, and gives away a sure chance, most likey a shot on goal…… yeah that’s what i meant to say excuse me.

      • dsd3 - May 8, 2012 at 4:38 PM

        Well, if that’s what you meant, then write that next time. I’m still not sure why you’re judging a player based on one play. Your generalization about him being a me-first player is absolutely incorrect. Nor did Pronger ever “get on him” for that. Pronger told Giroux to shoot more. If anything, Pronger’s intention was to get Giroux to be more selfish and try to score goals rather than pass.

    • spiffy53 - May 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM

      do you actually watch him play? good god. if anything, he passes too much.

      • sweezz - May 8, 2012 at 2:21 PM

        I’m talking about this series, he’s getting too frustrated, and you can see it. Game 3 and 4 he just wanted to do it all him self. There’s a time and a place for that. But you need to motivate your team, not try to take on all the burdens yourself.

    • ml3939 - May 8, 2012 at 2:52 PM

      @sweezz, definitely no a me first type of player. Not sure how you can call yourself a Flyers fan if you do not know much about the team’s star player. He is 24 years old and needs to learn how to control his emotions a little bit better but if anything, he is a leader in the making. It is a shame to see him make mistakes but they will only make him a better leader in the future.

      • sweezz - May 8, 2012 at 3:38 PM

        Kinda of like how I opened with “Well, this may teach him a lesson” Just because i have a different opinion on a player than you doesn’t make me less of a fan.

      • ml3939 - May 8, 2012 at 3:45 PM

        It may be an unfair classification but it is no less accurate than accusing Giroux of being a me first player.

      • sweezz - May 8, 2012 at 5:13 PM

        So Giroux didn’t say to Lavy how he wanted to start the frist shift of game 6 against the Pens? He didn’t take the puck off Couturier to score his empty net hattrick? He didn’t (as posted abov by me) pass the puck to get a shot on goal, but yet turned it over? Listen, I like the guy, I think he’s great. But if he keeps acting like this the NHL fans, players, owners and refs will slowly start to make him out to be another Crosby. I don’t want that to happen, and you don’t want that to happen. The breaking the stick, yelling at refs, and cheap shot sure isn’t going to help his case. He needs to get smacked back down to reality, and I think this will help. I never called him a me first guy, I said “it seems”, and I only say that of his recent behavior and play. Thumb me down for speaking my mind if you want. I’m not here to make friends, but enjoy the highs and lows our team goes through, and talk about it with eachother.

    • biasedhomer - May 8, 2012 at 5:05 PM

      Pronger was teaching him about showmanship? More like Pronger was arguing with Richards and Carter.

  3. geo91 - May 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    He’s a star, of course he wouldn’t think he’d get suspended if Shea didn’t

    • drewsylvania - May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM

      Or Ovechkin.

  4. snoop0323 - May 8, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    his name isn’t ovechkin, so shanahan decided to suspend him. giroux should look on the bright side though, at least his name isn’t hagelin.

  5. dsd3 - May 8, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Why would he have expected to get suspended with the way other star players have gotten away with everything? I mean, he has every right to be confused.

    That said, he shouldn’t have hit Zubrus like that, so the suspension (deserved) is all on Giroux. I say that as a huge Flyers fan, and a huge Giroux fan.

  6. dougr42 - May 8, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    It would have been a body check if 1) Giroux wasn’t so fast and 2) Zubrus didn’t slow down after playing the puck.

    It was interference and bad timing. No suspension necessary.

    • crosberries - May 8, 2012 at 4:04 PM

      Clearly you have never played hockey and have no idea what’s going on.

      • maalea - May 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM

        I’m sure you’re an all star player.

        At bubble hockey.

  7. bestgingerplayerintheworld - May 8, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    “Obviously I hit his head with my shoulder.”

    In my opinion, that is the only relevant part of his quote. The primary point of contact was to the head.

    • tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

      lol you have to read into what Shanahan’s reason for suspending him is though. Yes Giroux grazed Zubrus’ head with his shoulder. Shanahan supended him for this:

      RULE 48- Which is lamens terms means a player specifically targeting the head of another player.

      Rule of physics- When 1 person is bigger than the other, some form of function needs to happen to achieve the same level to be of the same level.

      Giroux – 5’11”

      Zubrus – 6’5″

      The guy has 6 inches on him. So the only way Giroux is going to be aiming for his head is by either jumping or leading with the elbow. Which he clearly does not. I get that he was frustrated and I get he was upset with the call, but a suspension on a call that clearly was irrelevant to Zubrus or to an actual play in the game is just dumb. This is either favoritism, Shanahan proving he can suspend a superstar, or plainly (and what I really think) Claude Giroux is a Philadelphia Flyer. I really believe it’s the latter, only because Philadelphia Flyers have always gotten rotten deals when it comes to suspensions. Was I surprised at this decision? No. Was I pissed, because I know its another bs ruling by the NHL? Yes. It’s the same story and I’ve been seeing and hearing it for 24 years. There is only one other team that gets it rotten like we do and that’s Detriot. I know why we get it (1975), but I always wondered why Detriot got the bad end of the stick. lol.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 8, 2012 at 3:54 PM

        what other suspension have the flyers got the “rotten end of the deal on”? Please note suspension to flyer players only and not incidents where their the “victims”.

      • crosberries - May 8, 2012 at 4:07 PM

        Conspiracy!!!! Conspiracy!!! There was a shooter in the crowd watch his head go back and to the left. Back and to the left.

      • tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM

        lol This year a lone Rinaldo has gotten a few. You got guys like Duncan Keith who just completely lay out and intent to injure people and get 5 games. Then you have an incident where the head gets grased or a rough check was laid upon a player and we get automatics lol. I was actually more surprised that Rinaldo didn’t get suspended in the 1st round for throwing a quick jab at the Penguin on his knees. I would’ve actually understood that one better than the Giroux suspension. I don’t remember all the suspensions, but I will always remember the year that Dan Carcillo got suspended for punching a guy in the face during the faceoff and Evengi Malkin commiting the same exact play. I mean both guys did it on purpose no doubt. The NHL gave Carcillo 2 games for his actions. The NHL claimed Malkin slipped and was awarded nothing! No fine, no games suspension, but if you look at it over and over again, it’s clear as day. There was no slip, but like I said you could go through history in its entirity and see how many times our guys get suspended for stupid stuff or things that are questionable but there’s no doubt in our mind that we wouldn’t be let off the hook.

      • wicky888 - May 8, 2012 at 4:22 PM

        I think you meant law of physics. And you really tried very hard to sound smart. You failed. I’ve been reading your whiny posts all day. As a fellow Flyers fan, please stop. You are embarrassing us all.

      • tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 4:36 PM

        hey wicky go upstairs to your room and get off your parents computer. Do they even know you’re on it lol. Physics, do you even know what that is? I bring out facts and you get on here and talk to me like trying to sound smart.

      • napoleonblownapart6887 - May 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM

        I think your reading of Rule 48 is a little bit narrow. You can’t judge intent, its the same reason why guys get called for high-sticking whether they “meant to do it” or not. You can argue circumstances, you can argue severity, but you can’t argue that the principal contact was to the head. In that respect, it is “targeting” of the head because Giroux had the opportunity to deliver a body check but didn’t, not because Shanny believed that Giroux said to himself “I’m going to go hit Zubrus in his mellon.” Kind of renders your whole physics experiment useless doesn’t it…

        As for your diatribe about how he got jobbed by the league because he’s a Flyer… there’s no sense in arguing with you on that because its clearly delusion fueled by frustration.

      • wicky888 - May 8, 2012 at 5:31 PM

        If you are trying to set a thread record for “most thumbs down combined” …. you just keep right on posting. Oh and your post from 4:17pm was a rehash from earlier today. Your idiotic ramblings are bad enough, please don’t start repeating yourself

  8. biffnasty - May 8, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    What happened to all the filthy fans and their silly *knock knock knock*? haha guess when ur bout to be eliminated after playing just terrible hockey you don’t find knock knock motivational? Hahaha

    • wicky888 - May 8, 2012 at 3:39 PM

      We only knock knock when they win. Because the song is only played in the locker room after wins. They haven’t won in over a week. Therefore, no wins = no knock knocks. I’m no super genius, but I think I got that right.

      You’re a Rangers fan right? You barely beat the 8 seed, and you are barely beating the 7 seed. Without that double minor last night …….. I’d worry about your own team before you come trolling on our threads.

    • tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 3:52 PM

      Hey you Devil fans forget history really quick I’ll give you that. I remember when the Flyers had the Devils in a series 3-1 and yet the Devils came back and won that series. Funny how you all forget and as I remember that the NHL said we owned the Devils that series. Oh wait how could you all forget that series, you won the cup that year lol. Devil fans, so funny.

  9. GenoPringles - May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    Delusional. The NHL doesn’t suspend it’s stars. This is still a true statement. Obviously Shanny, like the rest of the world, knows that this jobber is not a star, hence the suspension. Keep up the good work young man the C will be yours in no time

    • The Baseball Gods - May 8, 2012 at 4:13 PM

      How are those Penguins doing?

      • sportsfreak13 - May 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM

        same as giroux, sitting and watching. However the 2009 championship DVD is comforting. Hows the 1975 VHS?

  10. joewilliesshnoz - May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    Claudette and The Philthy Vagina’s , I like it ! ! !

  11. sjsharks66 - May 8, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    Tackledummy, you act like Giroux was the only person suspended this season and the post season. I recall 3 penguins getting suspended in 1 game! You play the “unfair call” card yet Adams got a game and bylsma a fine for instigating a fight in the last 5 minutes. WHICH IS A RULE, but how many times have you seen someone instigate a fight in the last 5 minutes and play the next game. If it was fair at least 3 blues players would have been suspended at the end of game 2 against the sharks.

    The Giroux suspension was correct, he hit his head. It doesn’t matter how he did it, but he did.

    • The Baseball Gods - May 8, 2012 at 4:15 PM

      All head hits are not automatic suspensions.

      • tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 4:39 PM

        lol don’t tell him that

    • ndrdog - May 9, 2012 at 11:05 AM

      sjsharks66 – You make an excellent point. I would like to add for the Flyers fans who think that the suspension is unfair a point. In game three VS. the Penguins, Wayne Simmonds received a 2 minute roughing and a game misconduct when he left the bench to go and crosscheck Neal who was headed the penalty box to serve 2 minutes for charging. In leaving the bench to make contact with a player on the ice during an altercation Simmonds violated Rule 70.1 and by doing so should have been suspended. There were also two occasions where Scott Hartnell can be seen reaching from his spot on the bench to interfere with players who are engaged in altercations on the ice, also a violation of Rule 70.1 and with his history even more suspension worthy.

  12. tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 4:21 PM

    Brendan Shanahan should watch this video and get back to us Flyer fans again. lol Typical that he would make this decision and then make something up later for a reasoning of why he’s suspending Giroux lol. Shanahan = Dumb!

    • tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 4:23 PM

      So do you all think a guy who’s 6 inches taller than Giroux, something would have to happen for him to target the head? Shanahan is stupid and should be relieved of his duties for being dumb. lol

  13. dawglb - May 8, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    The Flyers are looking to pull out a win without him. Think about it, they have lost 3 of 4 games WITH him. Tonight is the night to put a man in front of Marty. And put pucks on net. The ugly goals are just as valuable. Just ask NY about ugly goals (6 secs let last night). Huge night for Simmonds and Hartnell in front of Marty.

  14. tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    Flyers- Most penalized team in the playoffs according to how many games have been played. lol Not joking. Flyers 2nd most penalized team in the league next to Montreal. Not surpised. It’s the same story year in and year out.

  15. billobrienschindimple - May 8, 2012 at 4:40 PM

    ” RULE 48- Which is lamens terms means a player specifically targeting the head of another player”

    I guesd I’d understand this if I knew what a lamen is. I’m guessing it is kinda like a hyman. That would help explain vaginaldummy’s incessant whining and ability to blame everyone but his team.

  16. wetmorepsu12 - May 8, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    i think its a bit of a stretch to say giroux was “targeting the head.” if you watch only zubrus during the incident, it looks as if he is trying to maneuver past giroux by going behind him leaving his head open for contact, thus making it incidental contact with his head. was giroux behind overly-aggressive and a little reckless? yes. did he deserve a suspension, especially after shanahan’s questionable calls earlier in the playoffs? no.

  17. eagles512 - May 8, 2012 at 7:53 PM

    Still completely unfathomable that he got the same as Neal, who has a checkered past and had TWO hits that were much worse on the same shift. He was shaking around looking for someone to cheap shot. Shanahan has no credibility or consistency.

  18. mungman69 - May 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    If Giroux got suspended it will be a joke

  19. tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    It’s over people, you can’t play against a team and the refs it’s impossible. The fix is in and I hope Jersey is happy. So far 2 of our players had sticks broken by slashes, automatic 2 minutes right? Nope lol. You have to have an establish foot outside the zone before the puck enters the zone. It’s a clear cut rule. Missed. It’s so ugly and retarded, that anybody can see the fix in. NHL hates the Flyers. Lol done watching this crap

  20. ihateclevelandandphillyandbaltimore - May 8, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    He also didn’t think his team would be out played, outclassed, out coached and ousted by the devils. Go Jersey!!!!!!

  21. tackledummy1505 - May 8, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    Wicky your an idiot but I’m glad your a Philly fan. We need our dummies to run on the field of play too.

  22. ihateclevelandandphillyandbaltimore - May 8, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    NHL hates the Flyers

    As do I.

  23. ihateclevelandandphillyandbaltimore - May 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM

    It’s ok Philly fans, you have a young team, they’ll be fun to watch lose for years. Go Jersey!!!!!

  24. joewilliesshnoz - May 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    The Philthy fans can get back to doing what they do best ,that’s begging for change , mugging , and the occasional drive by shootings .

  25. danphipps01 - May 8, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    Of course he didn’t. He’s a star player. Why should he expect to be subject to the same rules as the rest of the NHL?

  26. zinfman - May 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    I hate the Flyers and was routing for the Devils in this series… But… A suspension was unwarented especially in comparison to the Ovechkin hit on Saturday. SOME logic would really be nice!

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