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Discuss: Devils befuddle Flyers again, take series in five

May 8, 2012, 10:07 PM EDT

The Philadelphia Flyers weren’t the offensive locomotive that they were for much of the regular season in Game 5; instead, they were more reminiscent of the team that was once known primarily as a group that bent and broke the rules to get things done. Either way, it didn’t matter because the New Jersey Devils were just flat-out better, finishing their semifinals series in five games with a 3-1 win.

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Let’s get to the talking points.

  • How much did it hurt the Flyers to lose Claude Giroux in Game 5? He wasn’t dominant in this series, but Philly’s offense didn’t look dangerous tonight, either.
  • Before we get more negative, let’s focus a bit on the Devils’ triumph. First things first: how good are the Devils, really? They faced two relatively unusual teams in Florida and Philly in the playoffs so they’re likely to get a new test in the Eastern Conference finals, whether it’s the Rangers or Capitals.
  • Is this run already good enough to keep Zach Parise around?
  • Speaking of returning heroes, how much does this help Martin Brodeur‘s chances of coming back? Will it be a mere matter of his choice instead?
  • Which team should the Devils hope to face in round three?
  • What was the primary reason New Jersey won, in your mind? (There are plenty of choices.)
  • How should Flyers fans feel about their future? Ilya Bryzgalov deserves some blame, but not as much as his enormous gaffe might suggest.
  1. kp20520 - May 8, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Hi. I’d like to make a tee time at 9 am. Thank you!

  2. quonce - May 8, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    Let’s go Devils!

  3. etjla - May 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM


  4. jeffsmith123 - May 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM

    The only bad thing about tonight is that I can’t watch the Flyers lose again…and again…and again…FOUR!!!

  5. chill1184 - May 8, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    Wait, Flyers in seven right? Oh wait your out of games. Hey Pens you got a buddy for the golf course. Enjoy the summer. Bring on the Eastern Conference Finals! Come Get Some!

    • sportsfreak13 - May 8, 2012 at 10:21 PM

      If we can’t beat them on the ice well beat them on the golf course. Thank you devils.

  6. epictron1 - May 8, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Solid season for the Flyers after so many changes last offseason. Hopefully the team builds from this going into next season.

    Only good thing about the loss, I never have to watch Matt Carle in a Flyers jersey EVER AGAIN!

    • ml3939 - May 8, 2012 at 10:18 PM

      I so agree. Some team will deeply regret signing him for $5-6M.

  7. ml3939 - May 8, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Devils earned it. Very impressive effort.

    Signed, a very disappointed Flyers fan.

  8. pens5829 - May 8, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    As Badger Bob always said, “It’s a Great Day for Hockey!”

  9. cruuuzcontrol - May 8, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    I hope those dopey “16 Knock Knocks” t-shirts the Flyers bought themselves before the playoffs go to some deserving children in Sri Lanka. Will complement those “2007 Patriots – 18-0” shirts nicely.

  10. martysbetter - May 8, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Ah yes, that was the Philly squad we’re used to seeing. Flat out dirty, obnoxiously late hits, taking runs at every goal scorer, basically everything the NHL wants OUT of the game.

    I had a laugh at the “refs you suck” chants by the Philly crowd – seriously?
    Each and every Flyers fan in the arena should have lined up and performed fellatio on the officials tonight, they basically got away with murder (looking at you, Zac Rinaldo – the most disgusting excuse for a player in the NHL).

    But it didn’t matter, because the better HOCKEY team won.

    8 down, 8 to go – this team has heart, its not going to be easy but if they play like they did in this series they can compete with any team going forward.

    • martysbetter - May 8, 2012 at 10:20 PM


    • maalea - May 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

      Dirty like the Volchenkov cross check?

    • tfoz5150 - May 8, 2012 at 11:10 PM

      The Devils play the most boring brand of hockey that is sure to make marginal fans wanna watch soccer. Reinaldo’s a bad ass. He was the only thing that gave the flyer s achance tonight. Good luck against the rangers

      • wyosig - May 8, 2012 at 11:52 PM

        Rinaldo is a hack

    • dmfc1112 - May 9, 2012 at 1:40 AM

      Do you seriously want legal, hard hits out of the game? Volchenkov dishes it out so why shouldn’t he take it??

  11. maalea - May 8, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    Congrats to the Devils. The better team won. I don’t think any other team could have made the Flyers defense look that bad.

    Jim O’brien you are a douche.

    • sportsfreak13 - May 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM

      he lets you call him Jim now?

  12. bobhpine - May 8, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    Where will the 2012 playoff appearance banner go? Next to the 1975 banner?

    Great leadership by Giroux.

    Typical choking dog performance by a classless franchise. Cheap shots, flying knees, head shots. Good riddance.

    • dmitchell624 - May 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM

      Seriously, you might want to show some class yourself.

      I am a Devils fan and I know the Flyers are a rival but win with honor my friend! Take the high road.

      • maalea - May 9, 2012 at 12:11 AM

        He’s from Pittsburgh……..There is no high road there.

    • dmfc1112 - May 9, 2012 at 1:46 AM

      funny, the Penguins got 3 players suspended for their actions in one game and their fans talk about cheap shots and class??

  13. bobhpine - May 8, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    Knock knock…knock knock…

    Anyone there?

    • pensswag91 - May 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM

      16 more knock knocks. Next time…

  14. Stiller43 - May 8, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    Nice, now we need those caps outta there.

    Ehhh whatever, go west teams.

  15. vindicatus - May 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    Good riddance, Philthadelphia! The Flyers truly played down to their reputation tonight.

    • tfoz5150 - May 9, 2012 at 6:02 PM

      Have fun sucking that jersey smog

  16. spavs412 - May 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    1975 boom lol and they flyers got back to their roots….. Dirty hockey yup.

  17. devilsfan54 - May 8, 2012 at 10:29 PM

  18. caps247 - May 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    Naturally as a Caps fan, I’d want the Devils to battle the Caps for the Eastern Conference Finals.

    But, if the Rangers face the Devils for it, sweet Jesus… Flyers vs. Penguins 2.0, a new bloodbath-WWE match every 2 nights on NBC…

    • chill1184 - May 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM

      Naw not really. Coach Deboer isn’t a classless douche who goons it up like Tortorella.

  19. cmdrsmooth - May 8, 2012 at 10:38 PM

    Nice to we the Devils show the Philly radio(and most fans..not all) that punching your ticket to the next round is not a Winning formula. Neither is booing Santa or Cheering opponent injuries. Karma Police got ya. Respect your opponents Philly.

  20. dannythebisforbeast - May 8, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    2 weeks later and pens fans still have nothing to do. Just realized the devils head coach is a strange bird for a hockey coach…no denying that.

    • pensswag91 - May 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM

      Pens fans so totally have something to do now; we can all hang out with the newly butthurt Flyers fans and talk about how it was our teams’ year.

    • dmitchell624 - May 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM

      Devils coach is weird? Isn’t that Eddie Munster coaching the Flyers?

  21. dannythebisforbeast - May 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    Only cheap shot I saw from flyers was Rinaldo. There was also a couple volchenko shots but I guess it’s easier to be 100% bias

    • maalea - May 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

      I wonder if Shanny looks at the cross check on Voracek? That has to be a game, driving him head first into the boards.
      He knew it should have been at least 2 minutes, the way Volchenkov was looking for the ref’s arm to be up.

  22. jkay1818 - May 8, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    @tackledummy, where are you? Weren’t you praying the rangers would win only so your flyers can destroy them in the eastern Finals? Since the rangers are horrible and the flyers are the most complete and dominant team.mi explained how defense wins and worry about the devils. Now you have to worry about having your mom wake you in time to be bryz’ caddy.

    • chill1184 - May 8, 2012 at 10:45 PM

      Hell Rangers fans were praying for the Flyers to win

  23. biffnasty - May 8, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    Knock knock

  24. dannythebisforbeast - May 8, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    Booing Santa?? Really??

  25. dawglb - May 8, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    NJ won this series with class, execution, scheme, and great play overall. They avoided extra, after the whistle stuff, and did not take stupid penalties. Congrats to the Devils. Well done. As a Flyers fan, the Devils were hard to hate. There is not much to not like (unlike Pittsburgh and NY).

    • dmitchell624 - May 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

      Very gracious of you. A true sportsman

  26. sweezz - May 8, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    It seems Flyers haters are more excited about this win than Devils fans.

    But you have to credit where credit is due. Devils out played us. They closed down our passing lanes and played close to the puck at every chance. They deserved this win. It’s good to know there’s a very good chance the Stanley cup will be won by an Atlantic team. Shows you what we’re (and they) are up against every year. Can’t wait until preseason.

    PS, please whoop the crap out of the Kings if you both get that far.

  27. dawglb - May 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    It is a shame. Most hockey fans are decent people. However bobhpine continues to be a complete douche bag. He has one comeback, one answer for everything, “1975”. Brilliant. You had to learn a new date (thanks to google!). You probably used to say “1940” for the longest time….

  28. malkinrulez - May 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    I’m a pens fan and a fan of whoever is playing the flyers! NOW I have nothing to do! Loved every second of these devils games! Devils are playing unreal! I would love a devils-kings final!

    • sweezz - May 8, 2012 at 10:59 PM

      I’m a pens fan, and I can’t let go of what happened yesterday. Sigh, at least i have my Lurch, i mean Malkin fathead to stare at and dream……

  29. philly4lyfe - May 8, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    Gotta tip my hat to the devils. They played a hell of a series and they earned the W. they had a good game plan for us and executed it to perfection. Our high powered offense with all that scoring depth doesn’t mean much if we never have the puck. We’d spend entire shifts just chasing them around our own end. When we did finally get it from them, they’d forecheck hard to force a turnover or we’d chip it out and go for a change so the next line could run themselves ragged chasing them. Their cycling killed us. I think there was also the combination of looking ahead to the rangers, and it’s hard to get ur emotion back up for the next series after beating ur most hated rival. But on the plus side, making it to the 2nd round in their first year gives all our rookies invaluable experience going forward which I think will pay off big, especially for guys like schenn couterie and read. It’d be nice to add a new #1 d-man to replace pronger this off season. Ryan suter would sure look nice in orange & black.

  30. flyerfan48 - May 8, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    I love how peopke are saying Flyers are dirty, respect the Devils, tee time… Please. When do the Flyers not respect a team. And in these commens, I have seen more people hate on the Flyers(Pens and Devils fans) than the Flyers fans have hated on them. The Dirty play isn’t really “dirty”. if you watch hockey, its always being done by every team. and the head hit. please, the Flyers took more headhits than any team ever, and the hit on Zubris was an argueably late check, and if you’re not stubborn, he didn’t target it.

    Flyers lost, get over it. This happens to every team, and won’t stop.Stop hating, and go watch sime hockey.

    • jpelle82 - May 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM

      i’ve never seen “sime” hockey but you’ve peaked my interest. where can i tune into “sime” hockey?

  31. jagrbomb18 - May 8, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    Lol here we go with the whining again MartyB…funny your user name is martyB because you sound just like him…even after you win…rinaldo had one dirty hit and that was the Zubrus hit….rinaldo should have been in this series from the start over JVR…we lost to a hungrier team…I hope you guys beat NY…

  32. jagrbomb18 - May 8, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    Hit of the year could have been rinaldo on volchenkov

  33. mungman69 - May 8, 2012 at 11:54 PM

    Flyers shot their load against Pittsburgh

  34. jagrbomb18 - May 8, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    I know you’re not a flyers fan so you haven’t seen him actually play but aside from his checking he’s actually a decent 4th line player

  35. sjsharks66 - May 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM

    @flyerfan, “flyers took more head hits than anyone” I guess the headbutt and the simmonds hit made up for it rite? Lol

  36. heyzeus143 - May 9, 2012 at 1:33 AM


  37. tomahawk12 - May 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM

    See you later Flyers! Wwhhaaaaa!,

    Big talking winning vs. Pens. Same usual outcome. I know, wait till next year!

    We won it about a hundred years ago!

    See ya

  38. joewilliesshnoz - May 9, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Garbage hockey , from a garbage team , that’s the Flyers way .

  39. tackledummy1505 - May 9, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    No kidding the befuddled them. I would be befuddled too if I was playing the refs and Devils too! The NHL is rigged, worst game I’ve seen ref ever. Automatic penalties like slashing calls for breaking the stick being ignored, too many men on the ice for Jrsey which is an automatic call, being ignored, an offsides call where you have to have an established foot outside the zone, being ignored. I understand if the refs were going to call this one way, but when that game was so obviously over from the beginning. I actually started laughing when guys were being tackled in plain view and the fans started cheering, “You Suck Ref.” lol obsolutely a joke of a league. Good luck in your lockout during the off-season. See how many people like hockey then lol

    • pens5829 - May 9, 2012 at 11:17 AM

      @tacledummy1505: Did you just complain about a boarder-line offsides call? REALLY??? Think back a few weeks to the Flyer’s very first goal of the playoffs? Karma sucks. Doesn’t it?

  40. ragingyinzer - May 9, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    Hey, at least their $51 million goalie got a game-winning goal!

  41. jblah - May 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    its really simple. the devils were the better team. gl to the devils. i think the flyers should have a good shot next year as well epically with all these young players having some playoff experience under their belt. I’m optimistic about the Flyers.

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