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Giroux suspended one game for Zubrus head shot

May 7, 2012, 3:17 PM EDT

Anyone who’s accused Brendan Shanahan of giving star players preferential treatment might have to rethink their opinion of the NHL’s disciplinarian after Flyers forward Claude Giroux was suspended one game for hitting New Jersey’s Dainius Zubrus in the head on Sunday.

It’s a potentially devastating ruling for Philadelphia, down 3-1 in its series with the Devils and now without its best player for Tuesday’s Game 5.

Here’s Shanahan explaining his ruling on what he calls a “late, reckless hit to the head.”

Key points:

—- Illegal check to the head, contravening Rule 48 that states, “A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head where the head is targeted and the principal point of contact is not permitted.”

—- Zubrus didn’t put himself in a vulnerable position.

—- Zubrus wasn’t injured.

—- Giroux had never been suspended or fined.

According to Frank Seravalli of the Philadelphia Daily News, Giroux “respects the decision and wants to move on.”

  1. phillyphever - May 7, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    Called it. Shanny got it right, Giroux was completely out of line doing what he did. Now Philly awaits the punishment of Cole Hamels.

    • polegojim - May 7, 2012 at 4:59 PM

      Very WEAK…and I respect Shanahan. He’s making up for blown issues early.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - May 7, 2012 at 5:02 PM

      I agree with the suspension but GRT8 had to go too,,,, he left his feet !

  2. jaybyrd99 - May 7, 2012 at 3:22 PM

    got to give credit when it’s due. i thought for sure there would be no suspension,even though one was deserved. shanny got this right,and proved me wrong this time.

    • lilgurgi - May 7, 2012 at 3:28 PM

      I’m a Flyers fan and agree with the suspension. You just can’t head hunt like that…especially when the player doesn’t have the puck (no defense for that either). I won’t argue the suspension, but it brings up the consistency issue again with Shanahan. Giroux had no prior history and received a game whereas players with prior histories (Neal, pitt) received a game after 2 attempted head shots in the same game. Again, agree with the suspension but Shanny’s gotta keep it more consistent.

      • kingmiedus - May 7, 2012 at 3:38 PM

        lilgurgi – your point on consistency is why I don’t like this. How do you say Neal has a prior history in your explanation, along with all of the above, and then have the same end result as someone with no history?

        Also, is it just me, or are there way more suspensions in the playoffs then during the regular season? Pretty crazy, especially when Shanahan says 1 playoff games is equal to 12 regular season games or whatever.

    • biasedhomer - May 7, 2012 at 4:34 PM

      Actually, since he is so inconsistent, he should not be given credit. How do you suspend a player for 25 games (Torres), not suspend a player bashing another’s face to the wall (Weber), not suspend another player headshotting someone (Malkin), etc, etc. Shanny is doing a horrible job and should resign.

  3. Tyler - May 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    This suspension is fitting. What most failed to see was the lead up to the hit where Giroux was knocked down, got mad, and went on a temper tantrum up the ice, punched Elias, slashed Zajac, and then went for the headshot on Zubrus.

    • psudu - May 7, 2012 at 3:38 PM

      Tyler, he doesn’t punch Elias, he throws his glove up in the Ref’s direction complaining about his missing a call. He throws a hissy fit skating up ice and then realizes the puck gets turned over, he slashes Zubrus’ stick and throws the shoulder to the head…1 game is fitting for a guy who has never been suspended or even talked to before in his 4 years in the league. But they have to start making these suspensions uniform.

  4. illcomm - May 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    I’m sure if Crosby or Napkin did the same thing, they would’ve playing the next game.

    • Tyler - May 7, 2012 at 3:36 PM

      And the 2011-2012 Art Ross Trophy goes to… Evgeni Napkin

      • miketoasty - May 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

        Also, the MVP of the league is none other than… NAPKIN!

    • pbhatesphilly - May 7, 2012 at 6:26 PM

      Sniffle sniffle, well if Sid and geno.. Whaaaa. Quit crying. Wonder y everyone compares Claudette to Sid and geno and not the other way?

      • maalea - May 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM

        Oh, maybe because they’ve been in the league longer?

  5. atb4 - May 7, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    A little surprised there was a suspension at all, but this seems fair.

    Even more surprised because I was under the impression the Flyers players were all angels after game 3 of the Pittsburgh series.

  6. GenoPringles - May 7, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Mike Richards would never hurt his team like this.

  7. philly4lyfe - May 7, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    The devils managed to win a game without their top star, we will have to do the same.

    • napoleonblownapart6887 - May 7, 2012 at 4:04 PM

      Giroux is the heart of the team to be certain, but guys like Briere and Hartnell can step up. Lavvy will definitely be in fully rallying cry mode as well. It’s a difficult task, but certainly not the death sentence some people are making out to be….

    • pbhatesphilly - May 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM

      I would post what a gay post this is but with a tag of philly4lyfe ur already condemned for lyfe (that’s spelled life champ).

    • crazemastercraze - May 7, 2012 at 7:28 PM

      “we”….. so you’ll be taking Giroux’s spot during his suspension? yeah, okay…….

  8. jagrbomb18 - May 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    This is total BS….Shea Weber gets 2500 for bashing a guys face into the boards….and..well…enough said…watch replays giroux hardly touches him…

    • joethorntonisclutch - May 7, 2012 at 4:29 PM

      By barely touches him you meant “slams his shoulder into his face purposefully while skating at an accelerated pace” right?

    • pbhatesphilly - May 7, 2012 at 6:31 PM

      This isn’t t fair, this isn’t t fair. Wow that’s making a bold statement.

  9. psudu - May 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    As a Flyers fan, I agree with the suspension, it is deserved. However as a hockey fan in general, when you see Ovie do it game after game and not even get fined, you have to question the consistency of Shanny. Neal was given one game, as a repeat offender with leaving his feet. Shea Weber smashes someone’s head into the boards and gets fined. Ovie on two different occasions goes to the head of a Rangers’ player and doesn’t even get talked to.

  10. ihateclevelandandphillyandbaltimore - May 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    Just can’t go without mentioning Crosby or
    Malkin. All of these undercover penguin fans are pathetic. The prick deserved it. Maybe he can go to
    Anger management counseling. He’ll have a lot of time on his hands since he’s about to go on vacation.

    • biasedhomer - May 7, 2012 at 4:36 PM

      Given your username, I think we all know who should go to anger management counseling, and its not a NHL player.

  11. vshehane - May 7, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    I wondered how many comments it would take to bring up Weber. Just take responsibility and move on.

    • ml3939 - May 7, 2012 at 9:26 PM

      The Weber point is completely relevant here. As a Flyers fan I can admit Giroux deserved the suspension. He clearly acted in anger and was reckless in what he did to Zubrus. Weber was clearly acting in anger and was reckless in his actions against Zetterberg. If anything, at least you could say Giroux was attempting a hockey play albeit one that turned out to be illegal. Had Zubrus been upright or his left arm been positioned otherwise, Giroux never would have connected with his chin. The hit still would have been late but a lot of times that hit is allowed if it does affect the play and the officials have the whistle in their pocket. This in no way is meant to justify what Giroux did. However, looking at Weber’s play, there is no way to construct what he did into a hockey play. There is only one intention when you slam another player’s head into the glass with your hand. That could never be a hockey play. Shanahan blew the Weber play.
      Shanahan also blew the Neal suspension. Neal has a history of a suspension, a fine and 2 warnings. Shanahan stated he accepted Neal’s explanation that he did not see Couturier and he left his feet to minimize the contact. Yet 20 seconds later he left his feet to hit Giroux. Right there Neal’s initial defense should have been discredited. At a minimum he deserved a game for each attempt and possible 1-2 more for having a history.
      I am surprised to see how many Flyers’ fans have accepted the penalty as Grioux has. However, there is an argument to be made for some of the failed reviews on Shanahan’s behalf this post season.

  12. tackledummy1505 - May 7, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    This suspension is not warranted at all. PSU where are you from cause you need to move to Pittsburg. Where Shannahan has been using injury as a factor I think it’s funny that Zubrus jumped right up and played the entire game like nothing happen. The NHL is rigged. Flyers will never have a fair chance ever again. Done watching this crappy sport.

    • odj810 - May 7, 2012 at 3:47 PM

      stop already making excuses for why your team may loose. He shouldered him directly in the head. I don’t like it either but how can yous ay the NHL is rigged. It’s never fun to have superstars out of the game because he’s fun to watch. But he deserved a game as hard as it is for me to say.

      • tackledummy1505 - May 7, 2012 at 4:26 PM

        How am I making excuses? You got players whaling away on Ranger players in the first round and they get 1 game. You have guys slamming people’s heads into the glass and they don’t get suspended at all. You have people leaving their feet to deliver checks and aside from Raffi Torres haven’t gotten a suspension. Evengi Malkin went around Elbowing our players in the head (ie-Grossman-who ended up missing 2 games) and got nothing. Yet Giroux who throws a high check on a bigger man gets a game for a check! for a check! He didn’t throw his elbow in the head, he didn’t puch the guy, or grab his head and slam it anywhere. He threw a shoulder check and caught a big mans head down. Gee where was that call when Lindros took one just like that from Scott Stevens. The facts are there, Giroux is getting suspended not for the play, but because he’s a Philadelphia Flyer. I give the same respect 3 years ago with Dan Carcillo punching a guy at the faceoff area. Dan Carcillo got a 2 game suspension. Granted I thought he should’ve gotten 3-4 games. Yet Evengi Malkin did the same exact thing in the Eastern Conference Finals and Malkin got 0 games suspended and no fine. The NHL ruled it a slip lol. What the hell does slip mean in hockey? The NHL has been biased against the Flyers since 1975 and it hasn’t stopped. Look who is the team leader year in and year out with PIMS. If we aren’t number 1, we are usually 2 or 3 lol. Its retarded and stupid anymore

      • jkonigsb - May 7, 2012 at 6:02 PM


        I was waiting for some idiot Flyers fan to bring up the Scott Stevens hit. If you watch that hit over and over again you will see that not only was it center ice and he was skating with his head down, but Stevens hit him with the entire force of his body. He did not lunge or raise his elbow. That was a completely clean hit that even today would not be punished for. (I will admit his hit on Kariya, not so clean). With Giroux, he came up from behind, had a clear shot to rub him out on the boards (which is what you are trained and taught to do) and would no have been penalized. But no, he made the point to get in front of him, then pull back with his shoulder locked on to his cheek. Clear intent to hit someone in the head. Flyers fans are a joke, they all think they know their sports when in actuality 90% of hockey fans don’t know a damn thing about how the sport is actually played. I played my whole life and through college, and I’ll tell you right now that you have to make a great effort to do what Giroux did, and he even knew it.

        And get off the NHL being biased and everyone trying to prevent the Flyers from winning the cup. You wanna start pointing fingers for the past 36 years, why don’t you start with your front office. You went to the Cup and blew it. I live in Philly and I find it pathetic how many BANDWAGON Flyers fans there really are.


    • jkay1818 - May 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM

      youre absurd. Flyer fans who actually know what they are talking about need to cart you away. everyone is against you, everyone is against the flyers. including all of the flyer fans on here. to quote boring, youre excuses, itsa boooring. im a ranger fan and have seen hagelin, a guy who will never be an offended again get 3 games, carkner only get 1 etc etc..ovie not even a slap on the wrist, so give me a break, and no, im not complaining. they need to focus, get out there and win.

    • bestgingerplayerintheworld - May 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM

      “Done watching this crappy sport.”

      I don’t think you will find anyone here try to stop you. The more ‘fans’ like you we can get to leave the better. In your new free time, I suggest perfecting your tin-foil hat making technique.

  13. tackledummy1505 - May 7, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    I think it’s funny they aren’t posting any of my posts lol. Guess you can’t talk bad or bring up facts on here. Too bad hockey sucks

    • bergencountyjc - May 7, 2012 at 4:04 PM

      Actually we see all of your posts. Still waiting for the facts tho…and no, it isn’t that hockey sucks, it’s your skewed version of it that sucks.

    • spiciercheez - May 7, 2012 at 4:10 PM

      need a tissue?

    • danphipps01 - May 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM

      Funny. Something tells me you absolutely loved it a little over a week ago.

      • jkay1818 - May 7, 2012 at 4:27 PM

        ah, there he is, Tackledummy. You have been mighty quiet during the beatdown your team has been taking. Like i said a million times, flyer fans on here are generally knowledgeable and honest (most agreeing he should be suspended). I see you finally crawled back out of your mothers basement to whine, are your eyes sore from the sunlight? If anyone looks at any rangers thread, he is the turd who kept wishing the rangers would win only to face the mighty flyers in the eastern finals. Kept saying the rangers havent played a complete game all yr and are horrible (destroyed phi all season) and time and time again, i said goaltending and solid D beat good Offense. defense wins in any sport. low and behold, your team is getting manhandled out there. You were so quick to open your mouth, but of course have gone missing all series. Now you come out to whine how the league is rigged bc they suspended giroux. How about your other stars step it up. if you are ignorant enough to use him being out as an excuse if they got knocked out, you still havent put the crack pipe down. You are going to lose the series because you are being dominated, and that was with claude on the ice. Like i said in a prior post, i almost wish he didnt get suspended just so we dont have to hear that built in excuse that giroux was out. You should note, youre the only flyer fan saying thats why youll lose and its rigged. it’s good to see you back tackledildo

      • tackledummy1505 - May 7, 2012 at 4:36 PM

        You all think Giroux should be suspended because you hate the Flyers. Besides hating the Flyers why do you think this play deserves to be a game suspension when other than catching his head with his SHOULDER, do you think he should get it? He didn’t leave his feet, Zubrus isn’t hurt, and Giroux has never had an issue in the past? Yet these are all the guidlines that Shanahan says he uses. lol It’s a joke people, you all are being as bias as Shanahan is. By the way JKAY- Can anyone tell me how the NHL came up with holding and interference calls? Oh that’s right because of the Devils and their trap. Yet I haven seen the Devils hold or interfere with every player going in to their zone on almost every play. It’s good ol Devil hockey. It’s played out and boring and yet the NHL only over looks it when we play them. I saw the Panthers getting more holding calls then we are that’s for certain or did the Devils all of a sudden become saints of the NHL. Facts people, look at how many Power Plays the Panthers were getting and now look at the Flyers series. Gee I guess that’s because the Devils become that discipline on their holds and grabs lol. Give me a break you Flyer Haters. Actually know something about a sport rather just talking crap

      • odj810 - May 9, 2012 at 9:11 AM

        I don’t hate the flyers and i think giroux might be the best player in the world. I think the makeup of there team. But he let his emotions get the best of him and made direct contact with the head after throwing a fit. Thats why he should be suspended. That hit easily could have ended someones career. Now get over it and good job devils they played an amazing series. Much better team than I gave them credit for

    • jkay1818 - May 7, 2012 at 4:29 PM

      another note, tackledummy, you seriously might be leading the entire PHT in thumbs down. every comment you make is yourself giving a thumbs up and 40 people booing you.

  14. gmenfan1982 - May 7, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    Good call by shanahan. Now only if he would be consistent and get ovechkin for his headshot on Girardi and leaving his feet.

  15. raoool - May 7, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    Shanahan’s on-film attempts to rationalize decisions being made with no more consistency than a coin flip are a farce. This whole charade needs to end.

    If the ref calls x penalty – $y, z games

    unless of course you COULD get some consistency out of Shanahan.
    then Vegas would touch it – and we could place bets.

  16. 2qswing - May 7, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    Unfortunately since Shanny blew it so bad with the Weber situation, every conversation on every suspension for the next year or so will start with “well how can Shea Weber bash a guys head twice after the whistle yada yada yada”

    You are getting what you deserve Shannahan. Your credibility MIGHT recover some day. But not any time soon. That was an easy call and you blew it bad. This is the result.

  17. joshuavkidd - May 7, 2012 at 4:04 PM

    i’ve got no problem with the penalty if you can explain to me how Ovechkin didn’t get tagged for a game when he essentially did the same thing and left his feet?

    • joethorntonisclutch - May 7, 2012 at 4:32 PM

      Ovechkins hit wasn’t straight to the face. Shoulder first, in my opinion. Should have gotten something for the hop though..

  18. jagrbomb18 - May 7, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    This discipline stuff is turning into a joke, it’s turning more fans off then anything because of the inconstancy of the suspensions/fines. I don’t understand how they are coming to conclusions for penalties anymore. Accepting responsibly is one thing, it’s easy to say yeah he hit him in the head. But you can’t suspended players differently for the same offense. I’ll say it again Shea Weber smashes Zetterbergs face into a wall and gets fined the minimum lol unbelievable…

  19. podevil - May 7, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    Giroux just showed everyone what a punk he has become…He went right for Zubrus, and aimed directly for his head…and if you watch the video closely, you will see he did not leave his feet, but didlaunch himself into Zubrus…..and by the way..Zubrus did not jump right up and keep playing…I am glad to see that there are some Philly fans that can admit when a wrong was done!

    • tackledummy1505 - May 7, 2012 at 4:40 PM

      lol he didn’t leave his feet, but he still launched himself!!! lol that’s the funniest line ever. Might as well put in there, “If you look closely enough, you’ll see that he didn’t leave his feet, but he launched himself all the while taking out brass knuckles out of his pocket and delivering a blow to the head. Then as you see Giroux skate by he reaches into Zubrus’ pocket and takes his wallet.” lol Thanks for the laugh.

  20. toegoat - May 7, 2012 at 4:10 PM

    I don’t think he should’ve been suspended. Nice to see Philly fans (most of u anyway) accepting it without excuses and complaining. Unlike most pgh fans, I actually want to see the flyers win. Flyers beat my Pens so they deserve it. Good Luck Philly, gonna be tough to come back now.

  21. GenoPringles - May 7, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    Toegoat- please leave the city of champions you traitor. Sincerely, Pittsburgh

    • tcclark - May 7, 2012 at 4:52 PM

      A city that doesn’t have a basketball team, contains a baseball team that hasn’t even had a winning season in 20 years, and has a hockey team that has almost gone bankrupt multiple times, is not the city of champions. Be real.

      • girouxhasladyballs - May 7, 2012 at 7:04 PM

        but has champions like genopringles.


  22. villi5ed - May 7, 2012 at 4:16 PM

    If the Flyers win the next one — a very big if — the whole psychology of the series will shift. For years I have seen teams play way over their head for one playoff game when their best player is out. Even this year, though I won’t argue that Radulov or Kostitsyn is the Preds’ top guy, Nashville did fine for a game without two key components.

    I honestly think this gives the Flyers an emotional reed, however slender, to cling to and rally around. And if they come
    through somehow tomorrow night, things could get very interesting.

  23. toegoat - May 7, 2012 at 4:20 PM

    Geno Pringles: Stop embarrassing our city, urself, n ur mother. U don’t even live in pgh. U are a troll in every sense. Now go ahead n reply with some outlandish nonsense that NOBODY agrees with, not pgh nor philly.

    • girouxhasladyballs - May 7, 2012 at 7:08 PM

      everyone agrees with geno. even sidney crosby. and thats the be all end all.

  24. joshuavkidd - May 7, 2012 at 4:21 PM

    I think this whole (Giroux is a punk thing) is over-blown. He was frustrated a took it out on someone, I don’t think you’ll find too many NHL players who haven’t done this at some point. Again the suspension is only a joke because of how wildly inconsistent Shanny’s been.

  25. philly4lyfe - May 7, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    I think the game is warranted G got frustrated and lost his composure. but like every1 else has already said, it’d be nice if shany gave a video explanation of what the differences are between this and Shea webers and ovie’s hits. I thought both of those were worse.

    • tackledummy1505 - May 7, 2012 at 4:46 PM

      He did, he said Giroux violated Rule 48- Targeting the head of a player.
      -He then went on to say he didn’t leave his feet
      -He hasn’t had any previous infractions
      -Yet he still violated a rule and he had no other choice
      lol it’s a joke, especially with all of the hits and wrong doings in the playoffs. I really was hoping the right call would’ve been made with a fine similar to Shea Weber, since it was less brutal than his, but Giroux got the same thing that James Neal got, who actually got only 1 game for trying to injure our players. I just don’t understand how the two types of plays actually carry the same weight? Neither do I understand if he was going off of the player being hit is injured or it affected his play type of suspension as well. Zubrus played the rest of the game and didn’t look to be affected. He’s also playing Tuesday night, so there was no injury. Yet Giroux still gets the same thing as someone who was trying to intentionally injure a player, more than Weber slamming a guy’s head into the glass, and more than Alex Ovechkin who left his feet, shoulder first. Funny, yet all of these hosers think it’s warranted lol yet they can’t explain to me why, other than his shoulder hit his head.

  26. sportypants1973 - May 7, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    No complaint about Giroux but what about the Devil player who practically put his stick up Bryz’s you know what!

    • jkonigsb - May 7, 2012 at 6:12 PM

      When the puck is in the crease and the whistle has yet to be blown, (or heard, i know he kept doing it but remember its loud on the ice and you get some tunnel vision when in there) a player can attack the puck even if under the goalie. And the puck was loose, Bryz was just in great position to prevent it from getting through him. This was no Eddie Belfour Santa Clause haha

  27. hiltonandastoria - May 7, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    Get over the Weber mistake of non-suspensions you cry-babies. Just because he didn’t get suspended doesn’t mean it’s a free-for-all out there now.

    Blah Blah Blah Weber didn’t
    I guess the league should just keep repeating the same mistake so to seem fair to Philly fans

  28. tackledummy1505 - May 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    TC- Pittsburg is the place to be though. Their 1970’s Super Bowl championship teams are all but dead now from over steroid use and blows to the head. They have two of the most talented, untouchable babies in the NHL. Yes their baseball team hasn’t been good since Barry Bonds and Bobby Bonilla, but they are Champs. At a price of course. I wonder if the Flyers could get a flop call to win the cup lol!

    • rgoodnight23 - May 7, 2012 at 7:18 PM

      first of all you need to go back to Geography/Spelling class….its Pittsburgh. second of all i think you forgot about the two other super bowls that have been one in the past few years. third i cant remember the last player that has died from that dynasty. being that they were on avg 25-30 years old back then and its been well you do the math 2012 – 1970 = ?….well i dont want you to go hang yourself…we all feel bad for the stupidity that comes out of FILTHYDELPHIA….the answer is 42. therefore if a guy was 30 back then that would make him 72 right now. Not many pro athletes in general will live that long with or without steroid use.

      oh and btw whens the last time the Eagles have won a Super Bowl? hmmmmmm unfortunately i cant come up with a date…..NEVER! you got a long way to 6, so dont run your mouth about football when you have no room to talk MR. DREAM TEAM.

      the only thing you have been right about in this entire blog is that YES we have to 2 most talented hockey players in the world. not to mention one hell of a supporting cast. no one cares about baseball anymore anyway i think we all realize that until there is a salary cap in place the definition of “buying a championship” will always be in baseball.

      lastly its been count em….13,505+ days since the flyers have won the cup….sorry for you luck buddy!

      CITY OF CHAMPIONS = Pittsburgh incase you dont remember the pens and steelers won the Super Bowl and STanley Cup in the same year.

      • ml3939 - May 7, 2012 at 11:21 PM

        I apologize in advance for pointing out facts and using conventional math. I will just start with the simple statement no one cares about baseball. I think you left off “in Pittsburgh” at the end of that sentence. It is still a pretty popular sport, more so than hockey. I assume the nature of your comment is due to the fact that you don’t want anyone pointing out the fact that the Pirates have been a horrible losing team for 20 years. However, by doing that you eliminate their 5 World Series Titles from your proclamation of “City of Champions.”

        As for spelling critiques, you may want to proofread before opening your elementary mouth as your tirade is littered with spelling and grammatical errors. It is pretty embarrassing.

        You should also recognize that major football championships were awarded prior to the Superbowl.

        You want to criticize a city for buying a championship, please back your criteria. Which big free agent was a part of the Phillies 2008 World Series team? They were built mostly through drafts and trades. It not like the team was built on intentional losing (to draft Lemeiux) or being so awful that they netted first or second picks overall in four consecutive years to become the team they are today. You could truly say their championships were built on being underhanded and awful, normally two unappealing traits.

        However, if you do look at the history of free agency, Philadelphia attracts countless more free agents than Pittsburgh could dream of. I am having trouble coming up with any big names any of the 3 teams have been able to sign. Not the case with Philly. Must not be such a bad place.

        If you want to talk filthy, you may want to look up were Philly and Pittsburgh rank on pollution lists. Pittsburgh is a champion on that list as well.

        As for the city of champions, how can Pittsburgh be the city of champions if Philadelphia has 17 recognized major sports championships and Pittsburgh only has 14?

  29. haleyistheman00 - May 7, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    Get real Tyler you act like not every player in the NHL doesn’t punch and slash. And giroux was mad bc they didn’t call the delay of game on Broduer for playing the puck in the trapezoid. He deserved the suspension but don’t act like he is a dirty player.

  30. tcclark - May 7, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    I agree with the suspension, but what bothers me is that Shanny took the entire shift into consideration, but treated Neal’s two hits as single incidents. You can make a justification for Neal on his hit on Couturier if it was a single incident. If Neal gets up and skates of the ice, i could see it being an accident. However, because he got up and put an elbow into Giroux’s head it validates the intent on the Couturier hit. That means he had two reckless, illegal hits to the head where he left his feet on one, and threw and elbow on the other. He also had a prior history, but only got a one game suspension.

    Giroux’s actions and Neal’s actions were not the same, so they shouldn’t be punished the same. i think Giroux deserves the suspension, but the lack of consistency is hard to understand.

  31. sjsharks66 - May 7, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    Tackledummy, why do you troll every blog trying to get everyone to say you’re rite?? You’re not. We all know the suspensions are bad/good. He was suspended because it was a LATE, RETALIATION HEAD SHOT. You must be blind if you are watching it and not able to see why he got suspended. You want Neal to get more games because he went after Giroux, if it was someone like Shelly you would say oh, 1 game is fine. I know as a flyers fan it’s hard to comprehend decent and clean play. However yesterday the flyers proved to the league how dirty and classless they can play.

    • maalea - May 7, 2012 at 8:36 PM

      I find the irony in one troll calling out another troll

  32. Buffalo Grumblings - May 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM

    No big deal. Just means that Claude gets an early start on the offseason!!

  33. jeffsmith123 - May 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    Que the Crosby haters…If it was Crosby he wouldn’t be suspended. Gotta love the Philly fans who’s team has become what they accuse everyone else in the league of being…a bunch of whiny babies who are dirty players….especially Giroux…after every call waaa, waaaa, waaa…

  34. rickbiz9 - May 7, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    Tough call – the basic fact is Giroux could have avoided the hit considering the time of the period and the fact that Zubrus was not the least bit a scoring threat at that time. Legal body checks are meant to impede progress with the puck and that was not the case here. While I don’t think it was a clean hit, it didn’t appear as if the head was target or there was not any intent to injure – which is what I think should be the deciding factor in any suspension situation. He got two minutes for a poor choice and Zubrus was ultimately OK. That should have been enough. I honestly think a discussion from Shanahan to Giroux to make better choices in the future would have done the trick in this case. (by the way, I am rooting for the Devils to win this series – this is not Flyers bias talking). I think for the most part, this has been a fairly clean, exciting series and I am sorry that Giroux won’t be playing in the next game. He is a talented, exciting player. Any hockey fan, even those like me who despise the Flyers, enjoy watching the best players in the game compete with intensity.

  35. mancave001 - May 7, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    You guys are on crack. Zetterberg gets his head bashed in and dude gets a $2500 fine. Now a guy who has never been so much as fined gets suspended for a crucial playoff game. Yeah….totally fair.

  36. cleverbob - May 7, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    He lost his cool and deserves the suspension. Luckily there was no serious injury involved. I’m glad most Philly fans have the sense to recognize what’s right is right. Even though it makes things that much tougher tomorrow, we shouldn’t all lose sight of the fact that this is a game played for our amusement and unnecessary head injuries have no place in it.

  37. eagles512 - May 7, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    I can’t argue with the game but the fact that Neal got 1 game for TWO shots that were worse and as a repeat offender shows how clueless Shanahan is.

    • cleverbob - May 8, 2012 at 8:19 AM

      Valid complaint, but no point in raising it now since the Pens are old news. What is Shanny supposed to do, suspend Giroux for just the 1st period?

  38. all4philly - May 7, 2012 at 8:43 PM

    If your looking for consistency, what about Asham getting only one game for a cross check to the neck? Asham is a goon. Giroux isn’t. But the penalty was the same?

    • tcclark - May 7, 2012 at 10:36 PM

      Asham got four games

  39. malkinrulez - May 7, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    Ashams hit was to the chest and slid up to Schenns neck. Had asham cross checked him in the throat he wouldn’t have returned.

    • tcclark - May 7, 2012 at 10:37 PM

      Was he trying to punch the ice and accidentally got the back of his head too?

  40. all4philly - May 7, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Asham also left his feet, Giroux didn’t. It doesn’t rely matter if he targeted the chest or neck. A cross check is a penalty. Schenn left the ice. Zubris didn’t miss a shift.

  41. vglenn25 - May 7, 2012 at 9:50 PM

    So let me get this right Flyer fans. You’re team is down 3-1 and, a top player goes on a 15 second I’ve been wronged and need to seek revenge for an injustice even if cost my team a chance to win. When are players and fans going to realize the true fun of watching and rooting for their team, is to watch them compete against the best players. For players to go off on their own vendetta with no regard for the team is selfish and unsportsmanlike. If the Flyers lose on Tuesday good they didn’t want it as bad. Before you go bashing on me for not knowing hockey, I grew up in the era of Clark, Hull, Orr, Esposito, etc hard nose play is one thing dirty play will not bring more fans to Hockey it drives them away

    • phillyboy20 - May 8, 2012 at 6:13 AM

      Giroux was frustrated about the non call and I would guess how the series is going in general and lost his composure, it can happen to anyone.

      As to your second point he definitely is not a dirty player and doesnt play dirty hockey, hes the definition of hard nose play. And you clearly did not watch too much of that era clarky played in bc the dude was one of the dirtiest players in the league, ask the soviets (still love him though!)

  42. mungman69 - May 7, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    Can’t we all just get along?

  43. thefacts121 - May 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Weird that the NHL is giving out suspensions for actions that occurred in Game 4 while still having obvious issues from Game 1 pending like Brodeur repeatedly and intentionally smashing JVR’s head into the ice.

  44. marshawnlynchlookslikepredator - May 8, 2012 at 6:33 AM

    An ex-Devil suspends the Flyers best player in a playoff series against the Devils.. I am shocked.

  45. wicky888 - May 8, 2012 at 7:15 AM

    Aside from any other hit in the playoffs this year and the suspension given/not given …. Girouxs suspension seems fair. He did hit a guy in the head. Did he target the head? Was it intentional? Only he knows that, and the rest of us can sit here and speculate all we want. But lets take this into consideration.

    What Carkner did to Boyle – 1 game. What Neal did to Giroux and Couts in the same shift – 1 game. (Both have a history of suspensions and warnings) Shea Weber – 0 games. Ovechkin – 0 games. Malkin on Grossman – 0 games. I could go on but lets just focus on the big ones. Now, with all of these other hits, you have a history of suspensions and warnings, intentional blows to the head, leaving of the feet, injuries, elbowing, down right bare-knuckle punching and so on.

    Now go back and look at Girouxs hit, where you only have a blow to the head, delivered by a shoulder. It may have been intentional, but theres no proof. (If Neal can say he left his feet to “try to avoid contact” and get away with it, anything is possible) No history of suspensions, and no injury on the play.

    My point is that in comparing Girouxs hit to these incidents, his suspension is unfair. Looking at it as an isolated incident, its totally fair. So the real problem here is that Shanny has screwed up his job so bad that nothing seems fair at this point. It seems like its a free for all, so he crucifies Torres. It seems like the stars are walking free, so he suspends Giroux. He and the NHL are to blame for this

    • raoool - May 8, 2012 at 5:33 PM

      It seems that Shanahan favors those who at least gave him a reach around while he was entertaining them.

  46. wicky888 - May 8, 2012 at 7:24 AM

    While tackledummy does seem like he is whining, he did bring up a very good point. The Flyers have been a top 5 penalized team for the last 10 years. As an example, the Detroit Red Wings have been a bottom 5 penalized team for the last 10 years. (You can check to back this up, I think there was one year where both of these didnt happen) Each team has had multiple coaches and players, and in some cases total roster turnovers over that span. Not complaining, just stating facts.

    What he said about the Devils pseudo trap game is also true. The Devils are indeed holding, picking and interfering with Flyer players through the neutral zone. I just consider it smart hockey, slowing down the Flyers speed and skill. But it is happening.

    As to the nonsense goalie interference calls – the squeeky wheel gets the oil. Marty complained after game 1 that he was interfered with on the winning goal – boom – he gets calls for the rest of the series. Thats just how hockey works. It may seem unfair at times, but be a man about it and dont embarrass the rest of us rational Flyer fans

  47. mrdrewstone - May 8, 2012 at 7:36 AM

    Oh so nice to see the cheap-shot hitting fool get suspended. Way to let your team down you dumb French-Canadian. Your name isn’t Ovechkin, you can’t get away with that….eh?!

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