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The Jordan Staal-to-Carolina rumors are heating up

May 1, 2012, 3:36 PM EDT


Given the Carolina Hurricanes already employ two of the four hockey-playing Staal brothers (Eric and Jared), it would only make sense they’d be interested in a third.


Right, according to the wonderful world of social media.

That’s the rumor du jour regarding the future of Pittsburgh forward Jordan Staal. To understand how we got from “Staal leading the Pens in playoff scoring” to “Staal going to ‘Canes country”, follow this handy timeline:

— Pens GM Ray Shero conducts a lengthy interview with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, saying he “might run into problems” trying to keep all three of his gifted centers: Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin and Staal.

Malkin is on the books until 2014, Crosby and Staal 2013. But of the three, Crosby and Malkin have no-movement clauses. Staal doesn’t.

— Following up on comments from CBC’s Glenn Healy (“[Staal] is not going to ask to be traded, but the hockey world knows something has got to happen,”) the Edmonton Journal floats the idea of the Oilers trading the first overall pick at the 2012 Draft for Staal.

TSN’s Bob McKenzie then picks up on the trade banter:

“There’s a lot of Jordan Staal talk, where his long-term home is (PIT or elsewhere?). Being a year from UFA means he’s driving the bus.

“PIT can’t get full market value in trade for J Staal if he’s one and done in the new locale. So Staal ultimately ends up wherever he wants.

“I wouldn’t be surprised if all three Staal brothers eventually want to play on same team. Eric, BTW, has four more years on his CAR deal.

“Which is to suggest Eric not going anywhere. Just a guess, but if Jordan isn’t a Penguin—not suggesting he’s not—a Cane seems logical.

“Bottom line is in 1 yr, it’s entirely his call. That power/influence dramatically impacts potential move this summer.”

Mark Madden of Penguins Radio (WXDX 105.9 Pittsburgh) reports on the ‘Canes angle: “Staal has apparently said that if Pens trade him, he’d prefer to go to Carolina to play with brother Eric.”

Chip Alexander of the Raleigh News and Observer continues this narrative. “Canes would (will?) be very interested,” Alexander tweets. “I would not be stunned if Jordan Staal becomes a Hurricane.”

— Then, in a piece claiming Carolina GM Jim Rutherford’s been greenlit by owner Peter Karmanos to acquire “a top-line player,” The News and Observer’s Luke DeCock says Staal is a legit free agent target.

So there’s your timeline.

Now that we’ve angried up the blood, let’s put everything in perspective. One, nothing is imminent (as Madden notes in a subsequent tweet). Two, Carolina seems to be in need of wingers and blueliners more than centers.

Three, nobody’s actually talked to Staal, who is probably laughing on a deck somewhere in Thunder Bay.

  1. bloggersarenotjournalists - May 1, 2012 at 3:40 PM

    Sucks for Pens fans still on the bandwagon, you’re going to lose a heck of a 2 way player

    • miketoasty - May 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM

      At least we still have 2 of the best hockey players in the league.

      • bloggersarenotjournalists - May 1, 2012 at 4:08 PM

        Neal is one of the better as well

  2. danaking - May 1, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    Speaking as a original Pens fan, I’d rather see them trade Malkin than Staal. Staal’s more reliable.

    • jobotjones - May 1, 2012 at 3:47 PM

      Hard to argue that honestly. Still, Malkin can really dance out there.

    • miketoasty - May 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM

      You can’t trade Malkin, he is basically a safety blanket for Sid. If Sid goes out again (Which is always a possibility) who is going to lead the team? Staal? We tried that and it didn’t work out to well.

    • bloggersarenotjournalists - May 1, 2012 at 3:59 PM

      Yup, glad a Pens fan said it and not me

      Malkin is a stud but I just would not want to lose Staal, his game is custom built for the playoffs

      • phil5111 - May 1, 2012 at 10:49 PM

        Staal is the last player I would trade on the Pens. He is still improving; I think he is still growing. He was our best player in the playoffs and well said, he is built for the playoffs. I think what the league needs to consider is some sort of “Larry Bird” rule. It is not right that a team loses players because of cap constraints that are their drafted players. We lost Ryan Malone that way and it needs to be looked into.

    • biasedhomer - May 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM

      Seriously? Staal is not going to carry a team on his back, but Malkin can. And its not like Malkin is a defensive liability.

      • bloggersarenotjournalists - May 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM

        Who is saying Staal needs to carry the team on his back?
        I see Malkin trying to do it and failing and getting of his game.
        I see 2 straight playoff years where Malkin was not even close to being one of the best players on the ice.

        And Malkin isn’t even close to Staal defensively.

      • biasedhomer - May 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM

        You would rather have a #2 center than a #1 center?

      • stepasidesue - May 1, 2012 at 11:38 PM

        He did carry the team on his back when malkin and crosby were out. I’m probably one of the few would trade Crosby.

  3. bobhpine - May 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    Staal “led” the pens without Malkin and Crosby in 2011 and that team couldn’t score goals. That said its going to cost a kings ransom to get him.

  4. govtminion - May 1, 2012 at 4:26 PM

    Tough call by the Pens, but if you can’t afford him, see what you can get out of him, I suppose. And Carolina is as good of a place to start offering as any, I suppose.

    I do agree with the earlier sentiment though that as tough as it would be to do, if it were me in Shero’s shoes I’d look at moving Malkin over Staal. That no-trade thing biffs that, I know, but if I had to pick one or the other to keep that’s the way I’d go. Malkin’s defensive work just isn’t particularly great, though the ridiculous offensive talent is well worth the risk.

  5. napoleonblownapart6887 - May 1, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    I don’t want to lose any of them obviously, but losing Staal would hurt the least IMO. A lot of people are allowing their short term memory to cloud the bigger picture. Staal was the best Pen on the ice in the Flyers series, and Malkin only showed up for one game. But we’re talking about the (likely) MVP of the league.

    I would also like to point out that Mark Madden is a gossip-mongering, gravy gargling idiot by the way. So take his words with a grain of salt….

  6. epictron1 - May 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    I feel the Penguins need to trade Crosby.

    Here’s my reasons:

    1. You would still have Malkin and Staal. Staal is an excellent two-way player, and Malkin has shown his value these past year with Crosby out most of the year.
    2. Crosby is obviously one of the best players in the game, so who wouldn’t want him. If he has a high value, get what you can while he’s healthy.
    3. The moment Crosby gets another concussion, or has effects of a concussion his value will drop insanely fast. Which if you watch how he’s played this year, is only a matter of time.

    • govtminion - May 1, 2012 at 4:49 PM

      Intriguing thought, but if it backfires you’ve set your franchise back a good decade or so at least. It’s worth remembering too the Caps article from today as well. Crosby, at the end of the day, puts butts in seats in a way that few players can claim- maybe Stamkos or Ovechkin in his prime could claim the same, but bottom line is that fans come out to see Sid. Trading him might mean keeping Staal and Malkin, but is that worth the outrage and loss of revenue that losing Crosby could create?

      (Never mind the no-trade clause, of course)

    • miketoasty - May 1, 2012 at 5:05 PM

      No, no, no, just no. That’s just stupid. Who says he will get another concussion, and he is a risk worth taking. He is also the face of the Penguins. Trading him would be like trading half the fan base (As retarted as that sounds).

      • epictron1 - May 1, 2012 at 8:32 PM

        I’m just saying I think he’s one huge hit away from being the next Eric Lindros. Also, once you get a concussion, you can get another concussion rather easy. Look at Mark Savard, he took a solid hit and hasn’t played since. If I’m the GM, I would get players to fill in his role.

        You could seriously trade Crosby to Edmonton for the Number 1 pick, and probably Eberle. Obviously you could get more, but you could add depth, and not have to worry about concussions and a high cap hit.

    • bloggersarenotjournalists - May 1, 2012 at 8:48 PM

      Crosby is signing in Montreal as a Free Agent in a few a couple years anyways.

  7. SDR - May 1, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    Please ignore ALL comments from that lowlife dirtbag Madden. This is the same guy who said he hoped the Flyers’ team plane crashed before landing in Pittsburgh. Not only should comments like that cost him his job, but he certainly shouldn’t be cited as any type of legit source when it comes to reporting anything at all.

    • t16rich - May 1, 2012 at 5:41 PM

      I did not know anybody made a comment like that. I wish one of Brad McCrimmon’s former teammates was there to slap him.

  8. killerpgh - May 1, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Malkin (and Crosby) only have a NMC/NTC in the final year of their deal. So Malkin could be traded up until July 1st after next season without him having to waive anything. Same with Crosby up until July 1st of this year.

  9. steelhammer92 - May 1, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    So Malkin has one bad series vs a kid who is probably going to be one of the top couple shut down defensemen in the league for the coming years, and all of a sudden the MVP of the league is better off traded? Are you guys for real? For all you short-term memory idiots out there, Malkin did win the Conn Smythe just three years ago. It’s not like the guy disappears come playoff time. One bad series in a series filled with bad play from Penguins players, and all of a sudden he is expendable? Give me a break. I love Staal, but do you really think Staal would have excelled if he was matched against Philly’s top shutdown unit like Malkin’s line was?

  10. steelhammer92 - May 1, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    And don’t even get me started on trading Crosby… The face, and part-savior of the franchise, and Mario Lemieux’s adopted son. He took some hard shots in the series and kept going. Anyone’s career can go with a full force blow to the head. That’s a risk for every player. Let him get a full season under his belt next year prior to the postseason, and he’ll play better and with more confidence. It’s obvious he was playing more tentative than he used to, but who wouldn’t be after missing that much time with head injuries?

  11. spavs412 - May 1, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    I love stalzie he’s a beast. I pray we can keep him a penguin and if he wants a legit chance to win he will stay. I hope so at least.

    • stepasidesue - May 1, 2012 at 11:46 PM

      Losing Stahl will break my heart so much I’m might just change my team to Carolina. He is such an unsung hero. I’d rather bring his brothers here.

  12. kingshockeyclub - May 1, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    I guarantee you if he is in Thunder Bay there’s no way he’s sitting on a deck.

  13. herbiecane - May 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    As a Canes fan, I’d love to have Jordan Staal.
    But if I’m the Pens GM, I’m asking for Jeff Skinner or Brandon Sutter.
    If I’m OUR GM, I do Skinner for Staal. But Sutter for Staal is a “no”.
    Don’t think we have anything else to offer the Pens…
    And then we’d kinda HAVE to find away to get Marc, wouldn’t we?

    • biasedhomer - May 2, 2012 at 12:20 AM

      Skinner would be a fair deal. The thing with Staal is he is only under contract for 1 more year, after that he could bounce.

  14. herbiecane - May 2, 2012 at 12:30 AM

    Skinner will be entering the third (last) year of his rookie contract.
    So they are both entering a contract year.

  15. newman252 - May 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    I think it would be better for the Pens to do everything possible to retain Staal. Crosby is an unknown…is he the next Lindros or Lafontaine? Malkin is going to demand league top 3 Salary and deserves it. Signing Staal you get a realistic salary with room for supporting players and you know what kind of player you get. Comes down to gambling on Crosby. But by letting Malkin walk you risk what will happen to Neal since he is signed long term and those two had unreal chemistry. Tough decisions for the Pens!

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