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Giroux on MVP snub: “That’s not the trophy I want”

Apr 27, 2012, 2:43 PM EST

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Earlier today, the NHL announced its three finalists for the Hart Memorial Trophy, awarded annually to the league’s most valuable player: Pittsburgh’s Evgeni Malkin, Tampa Bay’s Steve Stamkos and New York Rangers’ Henrik Lundqvist.

Notably absent from that list? Flyers forward Claude Giroux.

Interesting omission given what Giroux did this year. He led Philadelphia in scoring, finished third in the league in points (93), second in assists (65) and won 53.7 percent of his faceoffs. He also led a team that traded away its captain (Mike Richards) and perennial 30-goal man (Jeff Carter) to 47 wins and 103 points.

That said, Giroux didn’t seem bothered by not getting in on the Hart.

From CSN Philly’s Tim Panaccio:

“Which one is that?” Giroux asked.

MVP.

“I’m kidding!” he laughed. “Ah, no, I didn’t see the news but at the end of the day, that’s not the trophy I want. Obviously, it’s not something I control and a detail I don’t care a lot about.”

Hopes were high that Giroux would be third Flyer to win league MVP — Bobby Clarke (x3) and Eric Lindros were the others — and snap Philly’s streak of 17 years without a Hart Trophy winner.

  1. drewzducks - Apr 27, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    Paging Mr. Smythe…Mr. Conn Smythe ?

  2. bucrightoff - Apr 27, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    Ummm, you can win the Conn Smythe and not win the Cup (JS Giguere?)

    • drewzducks - Apr 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM

      True but unlikely. Don’t even like the Flyers but this kid is a beast. Unfortunately he can’t play goalie too.

      • maalea - Apr 27, 2012 at 4:24 PM

        Reggie Leach and Ron Hextal. Both won Conn Smythe on Cup losing Flyers teams.

      • bucrightoff - Apr 27, 2012 at 4:59 PM

        Thats what kinda makes the Conn Smythe unique is that it isn’t for the final series, but the entire post-season. In theory Giroux could get 30 points the rest of the playoffs and not win the Cup, but run away with the Conn Smythe

  3. bag217 - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    Paul Holmgrem couldn’t even get nominated for GM of the year, even with the trades he pulled off. The Flyers will only get a trophy that the league can’t pick and choose. So if they win the cup, the conn smythe will go to someone on the losing team.

    • bloggersarenotjournalists - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:06 PM

      Making Brezzy the NHL highest paid goalie is why Homer failed to get a nomination.

      None of the of 3 made such a silly move this year.

      Didn’t deserve a nomination

      Paid Breezy…..
      as if he is the leagues

      BEST Goalie

      LOL Seriously

      • renberg19 - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM

        You lost all credibility when you wrote ‘LOL’.

      • bloggersarenotjournalists - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:45 PM

        Homer lost any shot at GM of the year when he made Breezy the leagues highest paid goalie

      • tackledummy1505 - Apr 27, 2012 at 4:03 PM

        your an idiot bloggers. Okay so he signed Bryz to a big contract. What if he wins the Vezina next year? Then what? The thing is none of the GM’s did anything remotely what Holmgren did this season and doing it so close to the cap and still making it work. The Blues GM will probably win it and it’s not even for what he did this season. It’s what he did over the last couple of seasons. So the award is crap. The MVP award isn’t an MVP award anymore. It’s given to whoever amounts the most points in a season. Which clearly Malkin will win. It’s the same thing every year. Just like when Chris Perry won it and his team didn’t even make the playoffs. Do I think Chris Perry was the most important to his team? Yes he was, but we’re talking about the best player in the league, which has led his team to something. The awards are disgraced and biased anymore. Giroux has every reason to be mad, but he’s the best in the world for a reason. It’s why I think he’ll be the greatest Flyer of all time. I seen his play since he played for the Philadelphia Phantoms and I knew then how great he would be. The guy plays with heart, skill, determination, and can even do it with a little flash. He at least plays the game by the rules (Which we all know Malkin is a dirty player period). If we win the Cup, I wonder what the NHL will say then. It’ll be excuses as always.

      • bloggersarenotjournalists - Apr 27, 2012 at 4:52 PM

        I stopped reading when you used “Your” when trying to call someone else an idiot.

        For future reference….when calling someone an idiot. be sure to get Your and You’re correct.

      • bloggersarenotjournalists - Apr 27, 2012 at 5:00 PM

        And Oh WOW
        Since he played those 33 games for the Phantoms that one season in 2009?

        Try watching since 2005-2006 when he was in Gatineau in the Q
        And then winning gold for Canada in the WJC

      • bloggersarenotjournalists - Apr 27, 2012 at 5:01 PM

        And oh ya
        Need some Cheese?

      • straightupballin - Apr 27, 2012 at 5:12 PM

        Tackledummy
        your an idiot bloggers. Okay so he signed Bryz to a big contract. What if he wins the Vezina next year? Then what? The thing is none of the GM’s did anything remotely what Holmgren did this season and doing it so close to the cap and still making it work. The Blues GM will probably win it and it’s not even for what he did this season. It’s what he did over the last couple of seasons. So the award is crap. The MVP award isn’t an MVP award anymore. It’s given to whoever amounts the most points in a season. Which clearly Malkin will win. It’s the same thing every year. Just like when Chris Perry won it and his team didn’t even make the playoffs. Do I think Chris Perry was the most important to his team? Yes he was, but we’re talking about the best player in the league, which has led his team to something. The awards are disgraced and biased anymore. Giroux has every reason to be mad, but he’s the best in the world for a reason. It’s why I think he’ll be the greatest Flyer of all time. I seen his play since he played for the Philadelphia Phantoms and I knew then how great he would be. The guy plays with heart, skill, determination, and can even do it with a little flash. He at least plays the game by the rules (Which we all know Malkin is a dirty player period). If we win the Cup, I wonder what the NHL will say then. It’ll be excuses as always.

        I stopped reading after you said Chris Perry and when we win the Cup. I didn’t know you were part of the team and its Corey Perry.

  4. bobhpine - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM

    Conspiracy!

    • maalea - Apr 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM

      Douche!

  5. villi5ed - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    I don’t like the Flyers (though I like them more since they smacked down the
    Penguins) but no question that Giroux belongs on the list of nominees, hands
    down over Stamkos. Not even a close call there.

    • jpelle82 - Apr 27, 2012 at 6:08 PM

      how do you figure? there was 20+ guys in the league that scored more goals than giroux. giroux had a bunch of assists this year yes…but there is more to MVP than assists. anyone that can make hartnell look good does deserve some credit but giroux was not mvp caliber this year. stamkos scored 60 goals. its ridiculous to do in this league these days and especially on that team he plays for. this is a malkin runaway anyway, doesnt matter who else was nominated, its his trophy.

      • tcclark - Apr 28, 2012 at 12:01 PM

        This is the Hart Trophy. Not the Rocket Richard

  6. bag217 - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    I like how you completely ignored the trades I mentioned. He traded the captain of the team as well as their best goal scorer and the team is better now.

    Although I agree that Bryzgalov is the best goalie in the league, 33-16-7 is not terrible.

    I’m not such a homer that I think the Flyers should win every trophy, but there comes a time when you have to ask what gives?

  7. heyzeus143 - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    yea and keep the other streak alive too, 1975!

    • dsd3 - Apr 27, 2012 at 4:55 PM

      2012, Pens fans. 2012.

      Your loss in R1 was humiliating enough that every time you post 1975 someone should post 2012 as a rebuttal.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 27, 2012 at 6:12 PM

        so what youre saying is that the flyers are so terrible that pens fans should be embarrassed to be beaten by them in the 1st round? that the pens were sure favorites and it was inconceivable that such a crappy team could beat them in 6 games in a playoff series. pens fans should be so embarassed that it should feel like what a flyers fan experiences knowing they havent won a cup since 1975? i would take a cup a couple years ago and a round 1 loss than no cup in almost 40 years.

      • dsd3 - Apr 27, 2012 at 10:50 PM

        Nope, I’m saying that the Pens, the Stanley Cup favorites, collapsed so embarrassingly and failed to even test the Flyers. The pens had a 3-0 lead in Game 1 on home ice, and totally choked. Then they did it again in game 2. Now that is embarrassing.

      • dsd3 - Apr 27, 2012 at 10:52 PM

        Speaking of embarrassing, Marc-Andre Fleury had the 5th worst playoff performance by a goalie in NHL playoff history. And the Flyers scored on 52% of their power play opportunities. Yes, the Flyers are good. But that’s still embarrassing for the Pens. They were historically bad.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 28, 2012 at 9:17 AM

        and so is going to the playoffs every year and losing…40 years almost without a cup. thats embarassing

      • dsd3 - Apr 28, 2012 at 10:47 PM

        And yet somehow I’m not too concerned. Maybe because my team is preparing for round two while the Pens are getting their golf clubs out of storage.

    • wicky888 - May 4, 2012 at 8:46 AM

      2012

  8. broadstbully33 - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    if this was before game 1 of pens series tgis would be flodded with stupid insults( just waiting for a dbag to type 1975)
    but giroux was by far the most important player to his team. the kid is unbelievable to watch every game and as a true hockey fan i say thank you to giroux…f the nhl as they have again missed a chance to recognize a true superstar

    • tackledummy1505 - Apr 27, 2012 at 4:09 PM

      you were 2 minutes late on the 1975 comment lol

    • jpelle82 - Apr 27, 2012 at 6:34 PM

      he should win the flyers team mvp then. he was not the best player in the league this year though. you act like the league mvp is something they just give away to flavor of the month or twitter trending allstar of the week. this is a very deep league with a lot of good players, a lot of which had better numbers and impact than giroux did this year. flyers didnt even miss him when he was out with the concussion (they won 3 of the 4 games).

      • lasallehockey81 - Apr 27, 2012 at 7:59 PM

        With that logic, then Crosby must not mean much to the Pens since they’ve historically done pretty well without him? Probably not. Probably speaks to how deep the teams are than anything. And I agree that Giroux probably shouldn’t win MVP, but I don’t see how him being nominated over a goalie is totally out of the question. It’s worth an argument at least.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 27, 2012 at 9:04 PM

        pens have 2 league mvps on their roster. most teams would be thankful to have half of one. that wont last…by ’14 crosby will be gone…mark my words. they cant keep both forever and malkin is making his case year in and year out. they will trade crosby in ’13 before the deadline if he is healthy.

      • tcclark - Apr 28, 2012 at 12:05 PM

        If you have 2 MVPs then you shouldn’t have any. Think about it… it’s a thinker

      • jpelle82 - Apr 28, 2012 at 2:33 PM

        2 guys that have won it…malkin this year of course

  9. bleed4philly - Apr 27, 2012 at 3:53 PM

    Love this guy!

  10. tackledummy1505 - Apr 27, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Giroux should’ve been nominated, but I don’t think he should’ve won it. When you have guys like Ilya Kovalchuk who re-invents his game and becomes a complete player, then that’s worthy of MVP. When you have guys like MacDonald from St. Louis who plays a complete game, that’s MVP worthy. When you have Evengi Malkin who only scores goals or gets assists and doesn’t help any other part of the game (Other than giving out cheap elbow shots), then why should he be considered MVP? All the awards today are bogus and they might as well change the meaning behind them anymore. The Hart trophy is usually given out to the most offensive player in the game, period.

    • phillyhatesyou - Apr 27, 2012 at 5:03 PM

      ilya kovalchuk a complete player? is that a serious statement? dude is an absolute liability on defense. giroux should have been nominated but i dont think would have won it. honestly though i couldnt care less about the hart trophy and i like where G’s head is at

    • jpelle82 - Apr 27, 2012 at 6:49 PM

      you are truly a moron. macdonald was hurt all year and kovalchuk still doesnt play defense. do you even pay attention to hockey at all or just the flyers? they have a trophy thats awarded to the best all around defensive forward. its called the selke. by your logic there are a lot of players who need to return their trophies. and last time i checked goals and assists win hockey games, mvp candidates need to make a difference and win games. if a goalie is winning you games like lundquist, quick, rinne, and elliott did this year, they should get attention as well.

      • tcclark - Apr 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

        Yes Goals and assists win hockey games (even though you told me in another post that all Giroux did was get a bunch of assists when goals matter.)

        Malkin and Stamkos score goals and get assists

        Lundqvist prevents goals and assists.

        Claude Giroux does both.

        Now tell me who’s more valuable.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 28, 2012 at 2:36 PM

        he didnt record any saves this year so…i dont get where you are going with this…

  11. dsd3 - Apr 27, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    It’s unfortunate, but oh well. Giroux has the right idea on this one.

    But the real mistake in these nominations was choosing Lundqvist over Quick if they were going to include a goalie for MVP. Quick not only had the same numbers as Hank, but he played more games, and his team was absolutely horrendous offensively for a large part of the season. Quite literally, he’s the only reason they made the playoffs.

  12. sjsharks66 - Apr 27, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    He’s a good player and should have been on the list. However he wouldn’t have won anyways. Honesty if you had to decide Between Malkin and G who would you want on your team. I’m going with Malkin. Guys a beast.

    • dsd3 - Apr 27, 2012 at 10:53 PM

      I’d take Giroux any day of the week. Not even a question.

  13. jucam1 - Apr 27, 2012 at 7:06 PM

    G (to you Pens fans his Name is Mr. Giroux, as in “Mr. Giroux OWNED the little whinny girl SidGina these playoffs”… For reference)… Anyway, G, should have been in the field, but Stamkos should probably win it for his regular season… The guy put 60 on the board for an average Tampa Team… And please Pens fans, I know it hurts that Mr. Giroux OWNED your pathetic little team, but it’s over, and it’s only the first round…. Your hatred and jealousy only serves to show that along with your team, you guys feel so entitled.., The Flyers might not win the cup, but they have exposed your team nationally for the diving, whining, crying, entitled little men that they are…. Don’t make it worse by including your fan base with them….

  14. GenoPringles - Apr 27, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    This article is an insult to the NHL. Why is this even considered a snub? If the NHL had a trophy for being average this guy would get it. Filthy fans coming up with new reasons every year on how the world is out to get them. I can think of ten other players that could be considered over Gerioux. Can’t wait til meter stick Marty and his 40 year old Wang send you kids home

    • lasallehockey81 - Apr 27, 2012 at 8:12 PM

      It’s really, really odd how obsessed you are with the size of player’s penises. Literally every post you have has at least one reference, even all of your fake names and your “army” is named after a “Wang”. You’re a mess, man…

    • wicky888 - May 4, 2012 at 8:48 AM

      You’ve got issues

  15. broadstbully33 - Apr 27, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    @jpelle 1 person had more points than giroux dumbass no one hadd more assists or pp points or pp assists he plays all facets of the game unlike gina who slashes and whines and then blames neal on national tv because he lost

    • jpelle82 - Apr 27, 2012 at 8:52 PM

      2 people had more pts. malkin and stamkos. dumbass. you prove my point, giroux pads his stats with secondary assists on the powerplay. the guy didnt even touch the 30 goal mark. just because he plays on the pk doesnt mean he is good at defense. alex semin used to play on the caps pk for a while for crying out loud, all it means is there isnt a better guy to stand at the top of the circles waving his stick around at the d-men on the point looking for a breakaway….which by the way giroux scored 0 sh goals this year and if he was so good then philly’s pk wouldnt be ranked 17th in the league this year either. all this talk about him being a 2-way player is garbage…kovalchuk plays the pk in jersey…its a strategy that puts pressure on the pp unit…doesnt mean kovalchuk can play d…we all know he cant.

      • mkdazmedia - Apr 28, 2012 at 9:15 PM

        Until this post I was actually respecting you for well thought out opinions even though I disagree with them. To say Giroux is not a very good defensive player in addition to his offensive ability is absurd. I am a Flyers fan but I am also pretty objective. He’s not going to win a Selke but he is extremely responsible defensively. Their PK was 17th because of issues in goal and on D, not their forwards. They lost the porch clearer when Pronger got hurt and weren’t able to replace him until they got Grossmann, which allowed team a clear path to the net. Where you really lost me though was with the SH goals comment. He didn’t score any during the year but you do realize he was responsible for 3 SH goals in the first round, right? He scored one and his defense in his own end and then rushing up ice directly caused 2 others. Just that alone should be enough proof about his defensive ability. He doesn’t just “wave his stick around.” He is solid positionally and attacks when the chance presents itself.

  16. GenoPringles - Apr 27, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    Was there color tv in 1975?

    • dsd3 - Apr 27, 2012 at 10:55 PM

      I don’t know. Do they have color TV for the Pens at the golf course clubhouse?

  17. blomfeld - Apr 28, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    FLYERS = VERMIN

    I’ve always hated the Flyers, ever since their “dirty” victory over Bobby Orr and the Bruins back in the spring of 1974 … and then their despicable performance against the Soviet Red Army Team in 1976 … not to mention big-man “I think I’ll give Kharmalov a little love-tap on the ankles” Bobby Clarke ! The bottom line is that the Philadelphia Flyers are a criminal organization and therefore I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about Giroux or any other negative life-form on that team !

    “O Lord … if we must face these heathens, then please grant us the strength to slay them like the rats which they are … amen”

    GO KINGS GO ! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

  18. broadstbully33 - Apr 28, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    kings fans you do realize that ur organization is built off of phillys scraps right….thats why you are known as flyers west

    • jpelle82 - Apr 28, 2012 at 3:33 PM

      and do you realize that philly west might have a better shot than philly east? they sure are playing better hockey right now…maybe you should watch the games

  19. broadstbully33 - Apr 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    dont pens fans have golf to play….your bandwagon ran out of fans

  20. broadstbully33 - Apr 28, 2012 at 4:54 PM

    la is done this round

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