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Boston reporter thinks Tim Thomas will get traded this summer

Apr 26, 2012, 12:25 AM EDT

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In the Boston Bruins elimination post, I noted the team’s goaltending conundrum coming into the summer: Tuukka Rask is a restricted free agent while Tim Thomas is scheduled to enter the last year of his contract. ESPN Boston’s Jimmy Murphy has a bold prediction about how the Bruins will react to that scenario.

“My prediction now: Tim Thomas traded in off-season,” – Murphy’s Tweet.

When reading such a Tweet, I think of two things a) my advice to the Bruins to avoid trading Thomas before the 2010-11 season and b) the surprisingly similar scenario between Roberto Luongo and Cory Schneider in Vancouver.

The former point shows that the question has been floating around pretty much since Rask started to really make Toronto Maple Leafs fans grimace about him being traded. The latter holds some weight for a few reasons.

Rask = Schneider?

For one, both Schneider and Rask need new deals, which means that both the Bruins and Canucks probably know that they can’t afford to keep their “goalies of the future” under their expensive franchise guys much longer. It’s interesting to note the parallels between the two scenarios as Rask and Schneider allowed their respective clubs to rest expensive starters before the 2011 playoffs, yet now both teams are out after the first round.

Potential diminishing returns

While Canucks fans have essentially turned on Luongo (and his long contract), trading Thomas would have a lot to do with his age (he just turned 38 on April 15) and the fact that his contract is almost up. One might lazily equate Thomas’ potential departure to Peyton Manning giving way to Andrew Luck; if the Bruins decide to go with youth over a bigger resume, then Rask would win out.

Of course, Thomas hasn’t undergone scary neck surgeries and was still quite good this season, so making this move might even be bolder than the Indianapolis Colts parting ways with a legend.

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So let’s roll out the questions: how likely would it really be to see Boston move a guy who won them the 2011 Stanley Cup? Would they be wise to go younger in net while also getting something for Thomas? Perhaps they should consider swapping him at the trade deadline, instead? Fire away in the comments.

  1. ray2013 - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    It’s definitely an interesting question; Luongo and Thomas are different in that it’s easy to see Luongo playing another 5-6 years easily, whereas you can see Thomas having 2-3 more years at most. Thomas would also want to go to a team ready to win immediately.

    If I were to venture a guess, I could see Thomas fitting in very well in Chicago.

    • brian32556 - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:28 AM

      Trade him to the Caps so he’ll be nearer the White House!

  2. blomfeld - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:41 AM

    I loved Tim Thomas last June when he teased the Canuck’s “sieve” about pumping his tires, all the while kicking his ass on the ice, etc … then I hated him for snubbing President Obama later. The bottom line is that both of these people are now being usurped by younger and better players … such is the law of nature …

    ps: GO KINGS GO ! :)

  3. islandersfan - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    I think a large part of whether to trade Rask or Thomas or keep both depends on Thomas’s future plans. He is 38 after all, it is a legitimate question to ask if he’s planning on retiring before next season anyway. (I don’t think he is, just saying teh question is fair)

    Assuming both are planning on playing next year? Keep both if it at all falls within the Cap, assuming the club is as high on Rask as it seems. Thomas has meant a lot to the re emergence of this club and as much business sense as it may make to trade him to clear room it is hard to do that to a guy who means as much as he does to his team. (ala Iginla in Calgary, or what Modano and Linden went thru recently with Dallas and Vancouver)

    • bear654 - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:27 PM

      I don’t think Thomas means that much to them other than past. Rask is definitely the guy going forward, and if I’m Chiarelli, I’ll take the cap space over the distractions and possibly get something via trade in return.

  4. highlander24 - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    @blomfeld Damn right! GO KINGS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • blomfeld - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:24 AM

      The Kings rock, as well as this excellent blogger called “highlander23″ ! :)

      • blomfeld - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:26 AM

        sorry man, I meant “highlander24″ … :)

  5. tampabayirish - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:02 AM

    Interesting column. Here is a thought. If Tim Thomas were a member of the New England Patriots would they trade him? Yes they would. The Pats don’t get sentimental and live in the past with players. When they think they can get “better than fair value” for a player, they trade him. No one is bigger than the organization. They always look to the future…and they are always competitive. In the interest of fair balance, they have not won a super bowl since spygate. Bottom line, I guess it wouldn’t surprise me if Tim Thomas were traded. This all assumes that the NHL plays hockey next season. I have a bad feeling about that. I think Donald Fehr wants to stick it to the owners more than he wants to get a deal done. Too bad. Hockey is enjoying a nice resurgence.

    • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:42 AM

      And the New England fans promptly crap on the departed player. Zero loyalty, which makes one wonder why anyone would ever wnt to play for those ingrates.

      • thetruth1313 - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:05 AM

        BlowsForAll…I already explained this to you on the other site…We dont crap on our players that leave. We prefer to crap on you- just like every other sports fan.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:42 AM

        Just as I like to crap on you guys for the near century that you losers cried about how the Yankees OWNED your Red Sox. Take your medicine, crybaby Boston fans.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:07 PM

        LOL @ “fans” that get sentimental about millionaire athletes that they dont know.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:23 PM

        LOL at Pats “fans” who staunchly defend Tom Brady, even though he probably will never know that they exist as individuals.

        My question was posed to the players themselves, who being human, want to be treated fairly just like anyone else. But thanks for showing everyone the exact attitude that I was pointing out. Couldn’t have made my point any better.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:29 PM

        lol @ someone trying to make a “point” about their opinion on athletes.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:32 PM

        lol @ Boston losers such as you trying to continually use the successes of mercenary players to raise their own low self esteem

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM

        lol @ people that try to stereotype in order to make a point on the internet when they are frustrated.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:57 PM

        Then you must constantly “lol” at Boston posters, since that is their stock in trade.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:07 PM

        I dont stereotype based on geography or anything else. if someone is a fool, i laugh at them regardless of location. so far, you are killing me! LOL

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:09 PM

        You would be the rare exception in New England…or the biggest liar out there. Just so you know, I’m laughing at you as well. Must be nice up there on your little ivory tower.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM

        You are only saying you’re laughing at me because i already said it to you. lol. you are embarrassed, and rightfully so.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM

        Embarrassed? I’d only be embarrassed if I were from Boston…and since I’m not, I’m not. Still laughing at you following me around like the little puppy that you are. Doggie wanna a treat?

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:44 PM

        lol @ more generalizing and self importance. Might be time to create a new moniker… this troll has been pwn3d.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:56 PM

        pwn3d? Even more laughable. hairpie, you really need to get a life…following me around the Internet really isn’t any way to go through life. Pretty sad for you that you can’t take it when someone pokes into your little cage with a stick like I am doing on these posts. Then again, in my own personal observation, most Bostonians can’t take it either. Looks like you fall into that same category after all, despite your strenuous protests.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:01 PM

        lol @ more self importance and backpedaling to “most”. Whats next, “a few?”

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:04 PM

        Still laughing your misplaced arrogance. I’ll stick with “most”, since that allows for a scant few who aren’t total Massholes to skate by.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:30 PM

        lol @ “misplaced arrogance.” hello pot, i’m the kettle.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:33 PM

        hello kettle, who cares. I’ve never denied that I wasn’t being nice. Too bad, most of you Boston losers can’t admit all of the nasty things that you have all done over the years. Your response, as well as the responses of many other Boston fans here, only shows that your side of the equation has always had no problem dishing out the abuse, but can’t take it in return. Still laughing at you, hairpiece. Keep on following me around like the little puppy dog that you have become.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:39 PM

        lol @ irony….. and hairpiece.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM

        I also laugh at the irony of what you are posting. De Nial is not only the river that runs through Boston…it also runs through its populace. LA called, they want you losers to come by and pick up that carpetbagger, Frank McCourt, and take him back to that craphole that you all call home. Take his skank of an ex-wife too.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:06 PM

        lol. Hello fiddle. Mind if i play thee?

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:14 PM

        Play with yourself. I hear that you have had quite a bit of practice at doing that.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:18 PM

        lol @ grade school humor.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:36 PM

        lol @ you just got outed as a chronic and serial masturbator.

        Meanwhile, Boston’s reputation for racism continues to be perpetuated with tweets.

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:47 PM

        I sure did. Boy, you really “outed” me… lol. I may have to “tweet” something racist to deflect the attention away from my sexual perversions. lol.

      • bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM

        Go ahead. Jump on the Boston racist bandwagon. Not the first bandwagon that a Bostonian would be jumping on nor will it be the last. lol

      • hairpie - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:01 PM

        lol @ more stereotypes.

      • bozosforall - Apr 27, 2012 at 12:51 AM

        in their case, the stereotypes fit. Tough luck for you.

  6. hockeyflow33 - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Everyone forgets Rask backstopped the 2010 collapse and has never proven himself as a starter.

    What you have to take into account is that most of the Boston reporters are ultra liberals and ever since the WH trip they have continued to rag on him non-stop. This comes from one of those sources….just saying

    • bcisleman - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:11 AM

      Compared to Thomas’ hero Glen Beck, Ronald Reagan would be an ultra liberal.

      • stakex - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:29 AM

        So true.

    • bethgoesglobal - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:07 AM

      The Boston media may be liberal but how many liberals do you know who flood the twitter-world with racist comments about a GWG scorer??…. just saying

    • maalea - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:14 AM

      Seriously who gives a f##k what your goalie’s politics are? If he’s a stone wall, I don’t care who he votes for or who he prays to, I just want him to stop the puck.

      And Rask did give up that weak goal to JVR to start the Flyers comeback in game 7.

      I was in TD garden that night and you could feel the place get nervous.

      Even with a 3 – 1 lead.

      • hockeyflow33 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:27 AM

        I was too and it was the worst use of several hundred dollars I’ve ever spent

      • maalea - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:28 PM

        It was the best money I’ve spent. I drove up from Philly.

  7. salmon90 - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    “While Canucks fans have essentially turned on Luongo (and his long contract)”…….

    really? being a Canucks fan thanks for letting me know. I’ll let all the others know as well that we’ve ‘turned on him’.

  8. bcisleman - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    Thomas has a NMC/NTC that expires July 1st. I could see him being moved after that. Could see TBL giving up a prospect of two for him, drafting, say, Vasilevsky with the DET pick (#21) and relying on Thomas to hold down the fort while Vasilevsky develops. Better option than taking on Luongo’s dreadful contract and a better goalie to boot–even if he has whack political theories!

  9. lameasish - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:11 AM

    I think everyone might be crowning rask a little bit early. Talk about him after he starts a couple seasons..tim Is legit..rask still needs to prove it…any goalie can look good with a defending cup champ..

  10. stakex - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:26 AM

    It actually makes perfect sense that the Bruins might trade Thomas this summer. Everything lines up perfect for such a move, especially since Boston needs to give Rask a new (and almost certainly bigger) contract. Rask is going to be the future in Boston so hes not going anywhere, and it just doesn’t make sense for Boston to pay for two number one goalies.

    The other thing is Boston doesn’t need Thomas. Hes going down hill a little bit each year while Rask is getting better. If they let Thomas stay and finish out his contract, Boston gets nothing from that. Sure they get a solid goalie in Thomas, but they have Rask… they don’t NEED Thomas. If they trade him, they will get at least something in return and still have a top tier goalie. Its really a win win.

    • bear654 - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:36 PM

      Word, stakex, Rask is legit. If they let the combo of Rolston, Corvo, Zanon, Mottau, leave via ufa and trade TT, they could have enough space to go after just about anybody on the trade market over the summer. I’ve seen enough out of Rask to be confident enough in him to carry a team deep in the playoffs.

  11. joshuakorr - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:54 AM

    Boston has two options: (an a pretty favorable cap situation)

    1. Keep Thomas and hope that he gets his will to win back. He was a great goalie this year, but had worse numbers than Rask. However, one year ago TT was a world-beater and was one of the top 2 reasons the B’s won the cup. I think the Stanley Cup hangover was tough on him, and he lost a bit of that scrappy humble prove-everyone-wrong attitude that is necessary to his success. Maybe he can get that back? If he does, Boston is better with him in the fold next year.

    2. Trade Thomas for draft picks, sign Tuuka to a 3 year deal, go out and get a capable backup (Vokoun or someone like it) land see if that backup or Khudobin can fill in 30 starts. Then use the extra cap money, $1M – $2M combined with the LTIR saving from Savard $4M and get either one impact player (Parise/Suter), or a solid top six guy to replace Recchi/Ryder and a depth defensmen.

    PC, go bold and shoot for Zach Parise – however, need new contracts for many of the current B’s like Seguin, Lucic, Rask, Kelly, etc …
    Tough choices. Got re-load on offense for another run.

  12. dsd3 - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:08 AM

    I really don’t see how these two situations are that similar, considering the age difference factor, and a few other factors, including contracts, etc.

    Canucks could easily keep Luongo, who has done an excellent job, and get something great in return for Schneider, whereas Boston really would be crazy to trade Rask with Thomas being as old as he is.

    I’m not sure what the answer is for either one of these teams, but FWIW if I were Vancouver I’d hold onto Luongo and get rid of Cory. If I were Boston I’d ditch Tim Thomas, just because he’s old, not because he’s not a good goalie. There are plenty of teams who would take Thomas as a rental.

  13. buffalomafia - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:16 AM

    Me too!

  14. bethgoesglobal - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:30 AM

    Why are people always so quick to move players after a lost series. While I may disagree with every political view he has, I thought Thomas was as strong and reliable in the net as he has been all season. (and I’m saying this as a Caps fan!) Every game was decided by one goal and takes a lot more than just the play of the goalie to win/lose a series!
    If people are so ready to drop Thomas why not Lucic or Marchand?? What about their games was so much stronger that we shouldn’t be throwing them under the bus as well.
    Ya’ll need to sit back and let the letdown of defeat cool off for a while before you start pointing fingers at who needs to go. The man won the Vezina Trophy and the Conn Smythe Trophy not even a year ago!

    (on the upside though, does this mean that Bostonians want to drop Tom Brady too, because I can’t stand that guy!!)

  15. truehockeyfan - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:35 AM

    This about HOCKEY ……not politics! Liberals want to bash Thomas for not going to the white house….well guess what that was his RIGHT! You know those things that were given to us by the constitution ….get over it he still was your best player this season and he carried you through all of last season it one of the greatest seasons I’ve seen a goaltender have I’m 40 so I’ve seen some of the best. I say you see how he does early on next year before trying to dump him Rassk isn’t your answer anyway. I say stay with person that brought you….

    • trollingthisbridge - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:47 AM

      Good points here.

      Why would the Bruins consider trading the best player they have and the one guy they can point to as the single most important factor in their unlikely and improbable Stanley Cup win? I’m not a Bruins fan, so part of me hopes they do make this dumb move.

  16. HawaiiHockey - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:47 AM

    Yawn… Couldn’t care less. Thomas is lame and his team lost in round 1 to a 7th seed team. Can we talk about something else going on… Like the teams that are in the PLAYOFFS?

    • hockeyflow33 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:29 AM

      a 7th seed that was only 4 points behind the B’s, not really a major upset

      • HawaiiHockey - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:39 PM

        anyway…. moving on…

  17. wicky888 - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:13 AM

    We’ll take any of the 4 mentioned in Philly

  18. pastabelly - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:29 AM

    I am a Thomas fan. But it’s Tuukka time. If they can afford a 50/50 split in playing time and salaries, then try to keep both for one more year. If not, it had to be Tuukka.

    • hockeyflow33 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:32 AM

      Why? Tuukka has never proven he can be a reliable everyday starter

      • govtminion - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:43 AM

        Well, it’s hard to learn that when he doesn’t get to play often.

        They can either find out the interesting way, or lose him to free agency and find out by having to play against him. Seems like a pretty easy choice to me.

  19. capsfan19 - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:38 AM

    I would keep thomas. He’s better than tukks. At least everytime we played them regular season and the two times he was in goal we owned them.
    I think boston has awoken a sleeping dragon in the caps. I also think the remaining teams arent nearly as dangerous as boston.

  20. sarg715 - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:44 AM

    Bad move. Thomas is a superb individual not to mention his Goalie ability. KEEP HIM

  21. grillmarks - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:57 AM

    But Timmy needs a jab.

  22. biasedhomer - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Reporter thinks Kane will be traded.
    Reported thinks Loungo will be traded.
    Reporter thinks Thomas will be traded.
    Reporter thinks Kesler will be traded.
    Reporter thinks Marleau will be traded.

    This isn’t really news.

    Here’s a list of other players that could be traded this summer:
    Miller
    Staals (Pitt and Car)
    Ryan
    Schenn
    JVR
    Dubinsky
    Martin
    Pavelski
    Iginla
    Nash

  23. nydaniel - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    He’s past his prime (to put it politely).
    He’s got one or two decent years left in him, but he’s not going to be a cup winner.
    I’d say they’d be lucky to get much in return, so why bother?
    Platoon with Rask and let the asshole retire with grace at the end of next year when his contract expires.

    • hockeyflow33 - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:00 PM

      Last year he set the record for regular season save percentage, won the Vezina, Conn Smythe, the Cup and had the greatest goaltending post season ever. How exactly is he past his prime?

  24. havok82 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    I love Thomas and last year will still go down as one of the greatest sports memories of my life, but if the B’s can get value for him, it might be time. It is readily apparent that this team cannot cash in on power plays. They managed last year in the playoffs, but this year it DID cost them. How a team with 6 20+ goal scorers can suck so woefully on the PP baffles me. Injuries had something to do with it, but not that much. Missing Horton, McQuaid, and Corvo hurt. It’s the nature of the beast, but let’s let the season sink in before we start shipping people out. Rask is the future and they will sign it. He HAS to know that this team is his if he can stay patient.

  25. bozosforall - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    Boston CHOKES yet again! First the Red Sox last fall, then the Pats this winter, now the Bruins this spring…next the Celtics this summer…or sooner.

    City of CHOKERS

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  26. acieu - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    Trade the locker room cancer

  27. bostonhasrealhockey - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    City of chokers with 7 championships since 2001. Idiot.

    • comeonnowguys - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM

      I remember the time before 2001, when sports didn’t exist.

  28. cjeagle14 - Apr 26, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Thomas is gone. Chiarelli made the decision earlier this year to trade Thomas this offseason. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have given a contract to Khudobin this year that pays him $800,000 one-way for 2012-13. He played well in Providence this year and is ready to back up Rask. If you think Jeremy Jacobs is going to pay Khudobin $800,000 this coming season to play for the Providence Bruins, you’re out of your mind.

    • bear654 - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:22 PM

      Man, if they do trade him, they are going to have some serious cap space on a team that already looks pretty solid going forward. Add Dougie Hamilton, Rolston and Corvo gone, they have a lot of options. It would be sweet if they could land Parise. Two guys I hope they can keep around are Kelly and Campbell.

  29. stevefromsacto - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    Consider this: Thomas’ refusal to attend the White House ceremony for the Bruins took the spotlight away from his teammates, who wanted to enjoy a perhaps once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be recognized by the President of the United States for winning the Stanley Cup. He put his own political views above his teammates. Where I come, that’s called being selfish.

    Why did the Bruins go through a slump beginning right around the time this happened? Just a coincidence? I don’t think so.

  30. comeonnowguys - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    Trade him to the Hawks. I’m sure he’d love playing in Obama’s backyard.

  31. thetruth1313 - Apr 27, 2012 at 7:07 AM

    Hilarious, that BlowForAll says you keep following him, yet anytime you go to a Boston sports blog- never fail he has comments posted. And most of the time he’s the first one.

    Need proof?

    Go to google and put this in your search:
    site:nbcsports.com “bozosforall says”

    You will get pages and pages and pages of this idiots comments- all to Boston articles.

  32. patricebergeron37 - Apr 27, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    I lol hard at all the people calling Boston a city of “choke artists”. Boston teams have had all of their teams win in a span of 10 years, no one i might add has ever done that before. And 9 out of the last 11 teams to win the cup got knocked out the first round the following year so it’s not a surprise seeing as they had many injuries. 7 titles in the last 10 years, so why don’t you choke on that

  33. bigdong28 - Apr 30, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Thomas…come to the flyers, win another cup

    • pantherpro - Apr 30, 2012 at 8:04 PM

      Trade The Redneck to Washington. We will take care of his sorry ass!

      • bigdong28 - May 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM

        F*** Boston

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