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Evgeni Malkin thought Ilya Bryzgalov would be the difference maker in Pittsburgh’s favor

Apr 23, 2012, 9:47 AM EST

Evgeni Malkin, Erik Gustafsson AP

Seeing the Pittsburgh Penguins bow out in the first round to the Philadelphia Flyers is an especially bitter pill for Pens players and fans alike to swallow. The Penguins came into the playoffs on fire and all of a sudden they’re out in six games.

Rob Rossi of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review spoke exclusively with Penguins forward Evgeni Malkin to get his thoughts on what happened. Malkin had a curious thought about one area he thought the Penguins would have the advantage.

“Every team has a chance to win, not just Pittsburgh. You see the Rangers are down, too. It’s tough to win it every year. And we played against (the Flyers), and they played unbelievable against us all year. … Defensively, offensively, they did it all against us. I thought maybe with their goalie maybe it would be good for us, but it wasn’t.”

Thinking that the possibility of Ilya Bryzgalov being shaky would be a difference maker isn’t a radical thought which makes how small Marc-Andre Fleury came up in the series that much more of a kick in the pants for the Pens. After all, if Fleury even has an average series, perhaps these two teams are setting up for a Game 7 or the Pens find a way to win.

It’s going to be that kind of summer in Pittsburgh with lots of deep thoughts and “what if” questions thrown about.

  1. somekat - Apr 23, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    “I thought maybe with a19 year old matched up with me, maybe it would be good for us, but he owns me”

    Fixed

    • lsxphotog - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM

      This is awesome. Couturier didn’t play like a freshman one bit. I think that the rookies on Philly were real difference makers every game. Hell, they played better than some of the vets out there. For Coots to shut down Malkin and turn him into an average player says alot about his ability on the ice with less than 90 games of professional experience. Malkin should be pissed. He was a non factory for the first three games in a big way because of this guy.

  2. martysbetter - Apr 23, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    It has big taste.

  3. broadstbully33 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Malkin – “I thought i was great until a 19 year old rookie outplayed me every shift every game…i hope he lets me hold his jockstrap one day.
    Crosby- ” Goroux is better than me on so many levels… me and malkins points combined couldnt beat the best player in the world totals”

  4. sjsharks66 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    ^ haha Giroux is nowhere as good as Malkin and especially Crosby. Just look at stats through the years. It’s cold hard facts rite in front of you. You can say how much they suck and how Giroux is better, but real statistics don’t lie. Now please continue to say how gay I am and how I’m up Bettmens ass and the same thing everyone comes back with when you can acknowledge Crosby and Malkin as good players.

    • somekat - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:16 AM

      They are both good players. Very good players. Just not as good as G.

      Right now, the best player in the world wears #28, and sports an orange and black jersey. Who cares about who was the best 2-3 years ago?

      • jrillah10 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:26 AM

        I love Flyer fans. They always have the good posts. Even when they lose, they bring it will. Let’s acknowledge that the Flyers outplayed the Pens. But let’s also be realistic. Malkin is a stud and so is Crosby. I know he whines, but what NHL superstar doesn’t? The reason they whine, because it works. For the record Fleury was awful. That had a lot to do with the Pens losing. Not taking anything away from the Flyers, they played solid/great against the Pens. Win the CUP sometime this decade and then call someone garbage. This means jack if you don’t advance to the next round. If you’re satisfied with a Playoff win over a rival, good for you.

      • somekat - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:32 AM

        Can you read?

        Where did I call them garbage?

        I said they are both “very good players. Just not as good as G”

        Reading comprehension, know it, use it, love it

      • mercyflush - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:02 AM

        @ jrillah10…

        I love Pens fans. If they don’t have a Stanley Cup contender they dont support the team, and the team comes close to bankruptcy (5 times in their history I think??). Pens fans are the biggest front runners in all of sports.

        Case in point. 2004. Pens have the worst record in the NHL. Attendence? Also worst. 11,000+ a game.

        Flyers, 2006. Worst record in the NHL. Attendence? 7th best, 19,000+ a game, almost capacity.

        When the Pens current core of great players moves on or gets old or whatever, in other words when the Pens go through the cycle of non-contention that every team goes through, we will neither see nor hear from Pens fans. They will abandon the team again, as they did in the 80s and 90s as well.

      • flyersgoalscoredby88 - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM

        Right now, Giroux is the best in the world. If the Pens offered Crosby I’d still take it. If they offered Malkin? Not a chance. Malkin starts 65% of his shifts in the offensive zone, has one of the weakest quality of opponent ratings in the NHL, and doesn’t play any defense. Giroux is on the ice in every situation, up a goal with a minute left, down a goal, powerplay and penalty kill. People who only look at points choose Malkin, but you have to actually watch the games to get a feel for players’ roles. Crosby and Giroux play in every situation. Malkin is probably the fourth or fifth best center in the NHL right now. There’s a guy who wears #13 in Detroit and a guy who wears #33 in Vancouver that also have to be given some credit. Don’t forget Stammer in TB. Crosby and Giroux are the two best centers in the league.

        Also, I can’t stand people who say the best players in the world are all forwards. They’re the idiots who only watch ESPN and/or their own team highlights. I’d rather have Weber than Malkin or Stamkos.

    • lsxphotog - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM

      It’s called the changing of the guard, my friend. Crosby can step aside because Stamkos and Giroux will run the league next year.

    • weaponx2020 - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:05 PM

      all 3 are arguably top 5 players at this point, but giroux and crosby are both better than malkin. malkin was owned by a 19 year old while giroux had 14 points in 6 games with less talented linemates. single handedly won the clinching game as they both disappeared. have heard multiple hockey hall of famers, including gretzky, make the leo messi comparison with giroux. crosby has hardware but he also has missed more games than anyone because the guy is constantly concussed.

  5. sjsharks66 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    No one was talking 2-3 years ago. Look at the stats last year before Crosby got concussed. Look at malkins stats. There’s a reason Crosby has every trophy in the NHL and Malkin is going to be MVP this year. Because they are the two best players in the league. Not saying Giroux isn’t good, just rite now not #1.

    • somekat - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:29 AM

      Crosby isn’t anywhere near the player he was again. Please learn to comprehand, again, who cares about who was the best 2-3 years ago?

      Who cares about who had the better regular season point wise? There is more the hockey than points (I understand you cali guys don’t really grasp that part). Not to mention, G was on pace to win it before he got a concussion, and was right with him anyway until Malkin got hot at the end of the year. You know, when the Pens completely abandoned defense but put up crazy offensive numbers.

      If you watched any game in that series, and can say Malkin is better than Giroux right now (comprehend the right now part, not last year, not 2 years ago, not over their careers, right now), you either are a stat geek that doesn’t understand his isn’t baseball, or you just dont understand what you are watching at all

      • atb4 - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:34 AM

        Actually, Crosby was at about the same point per game level that he was before the concussion issues. Also, Malkin didn’t just get hot at the end. He was leading the league most of the year. He also played less games than Giroux and was coming off major knee surgery.

        Giroux was the best player in the series, no doubt, but one series doesn’t crown him as the “best in the world.” 13 goal games inflate everybody’s point totals. He’s in the discussion for sure, and you might be right that he starts outproducing everyone each year and gets that distinction, but not yet.

        Was he significantly better than Crosby/Malkin this series? Yes.
        Is he the best player in the world? Too early to tell, but he’s up there, and I’d love for him to be on my favorite team.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:03 PM

        and giroux is one more concussion away from us having the same conversation as we did when crosby got hurt. giroux played 2 more games than malkin and malkin put up 16 more points. i dont see where the pace you are calculating is but its not even close on the points per game note. either way, i would take points in the playoffs over the reg season any day, so kudos to your guy playing well when he needed to.

    • sweezz - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:23 PM

      Okay if Giroux is good, and Malkin and Crosby are better…..

      Why did Giroux have 14 points, and Malkin and Crosby had 16 combined?
      How did the best player in the NHL (Malkin) get shut down by a 19 year old rookie?
      If you had 2 of the best players in the NHL on one team, how could they lose to inferior players?

      Please watch hockey and don’t go by stats.

      • chizmo - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:02 PM

        Malkin and Crosby were playing a better defensive team… i was watching hockey and if you were you may have noticed that there wasn’t much defensive prowess on display for the Pens. Giroux was great, but saying watch hockey and not noting the disparity in the defensive play of PIT and PHI isn’t really doing your argument any favors.

        also, you state “don’t go by stats”, then you ONLY cite stats as your argument?

      • sweezz - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:22 PM

        Put down the keyboard there tough guy, you might hurt someone.

        I threw up 1 stat out of 3 scenerios.

        My argument is simple, better players win for their teams, regardless of opposition.

        That being said if Malkin and Crosby are 2 of the best, than they should have easily defeated the Flyers. The media, NHL, hockey fans and Vegas crowned them as stanley cup winners yet again, and look what happens…. people just can’t get over it yet….

  6. somekat - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    edit, Crosy may be that player again, but isn’t now

    • jrillah10 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:46 AM

      @Somekat,

      I wasn’t stating that you said they were garbage. I was referring to other Flyer fans at that time. Which I am sure you’ve seen posted on here for the last week or so. You are correct about G, he dominated the series. He’s on fire right now. They are going to need that to continue to win the cup.

      I apologize for not being up to your level of comprehension. Based on everything I wrote, that is all you comprehended.

      Go Flyers!

  7. tackledummy1505 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    lol you Pens fans would have to come out some how and cry. Let’s face it Giroux is a better player and has better class than Crosby. Second for sjsharks66- Crosby has been in the NHL for how many years? Of course he’s going to have better stats, he’s played more seasons. Right now stats don’t mean anything, just like all of those acting classes your team had to take, for all of those dives don’t matter. The Penguins played dirty that whole series and the Broad Street Bullies (as were always known) kept their composure and showed that we can beat you in every aspect of the game. Now Crosby and Malkin are great players, I just feel like they would be awesome players to watch too if they had class. How many times did everyone see Malkin skate by a Flyer and then cheap shot elbow them to the head? Grossmann’s out because of it. Then you have baby Crosby, who only decides to get into the middle of things when he’s grabbing someone from behind or knows he can get a little cheap shot in and no one can catch him. Pens played dirty and yet we’re the ones always looked at as the dirty players. We had 1 bad incident with Rinaldo and Pen’s fans wanted the noose. Well here’s hoping the Senators can win, so we have a chance lol

    • jrillah10 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:42 AM

      Wow! Typical Flyer fan.

      • melonheadsdaddy - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:21 PM

        and you sir, are a typical flyer hater. too bad the series had to end, but it did so with the BEST team walking away victorious. In EVER FACET OF THE GAME (minus the acting) the flyers were a better team. Offense, Defense, Special teams….you name it. Minus the one game where they got buried that is (which I saw numerous Flyer posters including myself admit to)…the one think i give you credit for is that you still come and post unlike three other dbags (which I called by the way) who have disappeared into the black hole that is the offseason….bring on whoever, this team has loads of heart and i could care less who they play. to be the best you gotta beat the best…and according to vegas and the hockey Gods, we have done just that….

    • chizmo - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:02 PM

      As far as class, you may have missed Giroux engaging with fisticufffs against the much hated Crosby, and you also missed Claude breaking his stick off the cage after game 5. Perhaps you also missed his taunting of fans during warmups during that same game? Everyone is guilty and innocent all at the same time.

      Pens fans wanted a reaction to Rinaldo because a similar incident with Asham resulted in suspension…

      You may also have missed the multiple dives/bought calls by ALL of the Flyers stars throughout the series. It’s part of the game and everyone does it… even the ever-innocent Flyers. A couple off the top of my head is Hartnell’s grabbing of Cooke’s stick then flailing his head back as if shot and Park being sent off for rolling into the net with Hartnell. Again, Pens aren’t innocent, but to say the Flyers are is a complete lie.

      @melonhead, you may have missed your Pens fan friends because the team lost and we really don’t have a reason to be posting other than arguing with Flyers fans, which is mainly futile because we have, in fact, lost.

      It was a dissappointing series all around for Pens fans. The team looked lethargic for large portions of every game, excluding that anomalous 10-3 game. The better team did win this one, and boy, does it sting. Makes it ten times worse that it was at the hands of the Flyers. Enjoy the rest of the playoffs, we’ll see if your boys have what it takes to do it the rest off the way. Don’t let your head grow too large at my admission of defeat, we are just fans after all :P.

      • somekat - Apr 25, 2012 at 12:49 PM

        Talking about how the flyers “dive/bought calls” just proves you are an idiot that didnt even watch the series, or a Pens fan with Yellow and black glasses.

        The Pens got multiple, BLATANT dives every single game. There was a few questionable calls in the Flyers favor, but the same in the Pens favor. There were no blatant ridiculous calls against the Pens. They ALWAYS happen to their opponents

  8. mickeyb21 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Giroux was the best player in the SERIES. That does not automatically make him the best player in the world. Rinne was the best player in the Preds/Red Wings series, McDonald was the best player in the Blues/Sharks series, Quick was the best player in the Kings/Canucks series. Are they all the best players in the world? No, and neither is Giroux. Look outside your own team and series and look at the rest of the league. Giroux benefited from a lack of defense and decent goaltending. See how long it lasts against a real TEAM and actually have him win something (he has never won anything!) before saying he is the best.

    • fantasyhockeyguru - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:49 AM

      So you know, yes, Quick is the best Goalie in the world..so using that in your already awful argument, is pointless.

      Second, you must not watch hockey at all to infer that the Pens aren’t a real team..to quote a wise man:

      “What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

      • mickeyb21 - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:52 AM

        TEAM as is a team that plays defense and has a goalie that can actually stop the puck from going through his legs. I want to see Giroux do that to the Rangers, or the Kings, or the Preds, or the Blues. I am saying that I don’t think he will.

        Also, Quick is a great goalie but what makes him so much better than Lundquist or Rinne or Elliott or Halak? They all had the same or better numbers than him.

        I am saying you cannot take one series and claim they are the greatest in the world. I am more impressed by McDonald’s 8 point verses the Sharks than by Giroux’s 14 point verses the Penguins.

        And really? That quote? Are you 12?

    • tackledummy1505 - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:41 PM

      Ok so everyone thinks their player is the greatest in the world yeah!!!! Anyway, Goalies can be considered the greatest in the world and I feel they are the biggest factor in the playoffs most of the time. Rinne is a great goalie and I think he played an outstanding series. I still wouldn’t put him in that above category just yet. Nashville showed great defense against the Red Wings and Rinne was only challenged a few moments in each game. Nashville really had Detroit’s number. MacDonald and the Blues……..I love the Blues season and I love how they’re playing right now, but I just don’t see it. The Blues remind me of the Lightning from last year. So saying MacDonald’s 8 points is kind of retarded to go up against Giroux. Especially when Giroux’s points all came at pivotal points in the game. Yet you’re going to say MacDonald’s 8 points was better? Look Giroux is a great player and a great leader. Is he the best in the world right now? That’ll remain be seen, even though I feel like that now. I even made the statement that Claude Giroux is the greatest Flyer player ever to play the game. That’s going up against guys like Bill Barber, Bobby Clarke, and even Bernie Parent. The fact is the kid loves the game, has the tenacity, and brings pure leadership to the table. All of those things compiled with his skill is unbelievable. If the Flyers don’t win the cup, I know there will be doubts and haters all over the Flyers, but trust me the Flyers aren’t far away from winning the whole thing, if not this year.

      • mickeyb21 - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:15 PM

        I am not meaning to take anything away from Giroux. All I am asking for is for people to look at more than just one series and one team. Giroux’s 14 point were great, but 6 of them were from a 8-4 game and 3 were from a 5-1 game. Were all those points important? The Flyers are a very offensive team. That is their playing style (although they played great defense on Sunday and during important parts of the first 3 games). I was more impressed by Andy McDonald (Andy MacDonald plays for the Islanders, don’t get them confused) and his 8 points because they were spread out over 4 games and with a very defense minded team. There largest margin of victory was a 3-0 game. When your team leads the league in the amount of goals scored, it is easier to have a higher point total. That’s why I was more impressed looking at McDonald’s numbers. Also, every point McDonald scored was important for a low scoring Blues team.

        Also, I don’t see the Lightning/Blues comparison. Blues have been a long time coming. Added depth this year and an experienced coach. I see them as contenders for years to come if they can resign just a few of their depth players. Lightning lost a bunch of theirs and had an old goalie. Can’t see that happening to the Blues.

  9. sjsharks66 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Girouxs concussion is the weakest attempt for media attention I had ever seen. Maybe someone should tell simmonds to try to not knee his own teammate in the back of the head. Giroux was “concussed” for what, 3 days? Dot make up stupid excuses on why he didn’t beat Malkin. The reason is, hes not as good as him!

    • somekat - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:43 AM

      again, more to hockey than points clown. That’s why Malkin is heading back to Russia to play in the Worlds, or whatever russians do when they get bounced in the first round.

      dont make “stupid excses” (aka, bad goaltending, as if Bryzgalov was a brick wall or the flyers played more than 1 good game defensively) for the fact that Malkin is a great offensive player, and horrible defensively. Point out 1 good play he made on that end all series, please. Having trouble? That’s because he didn’t make one.
      How about all those shorthanded chances he got….oh wait, he’s not good enough defensively to play on the PK. The best player in the world excels in all situations. Not just in one of the 3 zones

      • chizmo - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:04 PM

        i agree with Geno playing poor defensively in the series, but obviously everyone played pretty terribly on defense. I don’t think he’s the greatest on defense, but horrible defensively may be alittle harsh. he’s usually pretty good on the backcheck. Malkin’s job is not defense.

        perhaps Giroux is somewhat more well-rounded than Malkin, but Malkin’s function as a star offensive player is not to play well defensively. any number of star players fall into this category. Gaborik, Kovalchuk, and Jagr just to name a few. pointing out that Malkin is not “good enough” to play on PK makes no sense because a high caliber offensive talent almost never plays on the PK.

        citing the shorty chances v. Pens falls somewhat short as well. small sample size and the laughable lack of effort from Pens make it hard to take this stat seriously… not to mention Giroux was good this season for all of ZERO SH goals. how that is a talking point is beyond me.

        dude is a great player, just think that using this series as an example is a slight mis-representation. also, it IS possible to talk up Claude without dumping on other skaters.

    • jelliot1978 - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:16 AM

      I am not going to deny that Malkin and Crosby are among the elite in the NHL nor am I going to claim Giroux is the best but I will state that there is more to hockey than just scoring. Some of the best players don’t get the recognition that Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos get because they don’t score as much but have a more rounded game. Zetterberg from Detroit is a name to toss out there as an elite player.

      Some people prefer the high point totals of the Crosbys and others prefer the two-way play of the Girouxs. No logical person can claim that Giroux was not an elite player this year. He didn’t score as many points as Malkin but he was definitely as valuable to the Flyers as Malkin was to the Pens.

      Me personally, I like the two-way player because he brings so much to the team. Stevie Y was an all-time great because of the way he played in all aspects of the game. Rod Brin’damour was an under-appreciated player. Ron Francis was the red-headed step child in Pitt during the glory days but was as important as Lemieux and Jagr to raising the cup.

  10. bensawesomeness - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    I’m a little upset this series is over.

    Watching the two fan bases rip each other to shreds was a lot of fun

    • fantasyhockeyguru - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:50 AM

      You really think it’ll stop with it being over? haha

      Pens fans will be crying until next season about it making excuses saying Philly got lucky or this or that…Pens fans cry more than Crosby, which shouldn’t be humanly possible, as he cries more than a teenage girl with PMS

      • flyersgoalscoredby88 - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:43 AM

        I mean, Pitt fans tend to disappear quickly once they’re not contending anymore. At least we’re always loud.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM

        and flyers fans will probably beat up another war veteran for wearing the wrong jersey when they get beat in the 2nd round

      • melonheadsdaddy - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:28 PM

        jpelle-

        I want proof that this happened. and a couple of drunk knuckleheads doesnt define an entire city/fanbase…i seem to remember a SF Giant fan who just came out of a coma for wearing the wrong colors to a dodger game…oh wait…there was also the dodger fan that STABBED a philly fan for cheering in the 09 NLDS… and dont get me started on the 49ers vs Raiders preseason game from last year…funny how the media (and some pathetic excuse for fans) think these things on happen in “filtydelphia”….born and raised in philadelphia…and extremely proud of it regardless of what you people think…

      • jpelle82 - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:45 PM

        who said la or san fran were good cities either? you dont see penguins fans gang beating flyers fans in the streets or steelers fans beating up old men in santa costumes or rioting in the streets after winning a championship. maybe its the faithful half of your fans that come from new jersey that cause all of your poblems. as a pennsylvanian myself, i find it hard to believe that fellow pennsylvanians would represent the state so poorly, it would not surprise me however to find that the root of all the unruliness was spilled over from the landfill that is new jersey.

      • melonheadsdaddy - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:42 PM

        Im just citing different instances that dont get blown up in the national media…we all know about the infamous “snowballs at santa” and “batteries at JD Drew” (you guys LOVE to remind us on a weekly basis), but I feel as if my teams and my city get a heinous rap because of what happened 30-40 years ago. Granted some fans are no prize (the kid from jersey vomiting on the little girl comes to mind), but that does not give anyone the right to paint the city or organizations in a negative light as they do…last time I checked, the eagles started the “think pink” movement in October, and now ALL teams follow it and the NFL has adopted it..they are also the greenest (word?) organization in all of sports…i realize Im straying a bit off topic here, so what it comes down to is that was a hell of a series and its too bad it ended. BOTH goalies looked horrendous at times, and BOTH offenses were virtually unstoppable. In my opinion, the Flyers PP stole that series…and the PK certainly helped with 3 SHG

      • flyersgoalscoredby88 - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:53 PM

        http://www.nbc-2.com/Global/story.asp?S=12375328

        I’ll just leave this here.

      • melonheadsdaddy - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM

        and that solves that. well played.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM

        i dont get it, article says he was arguing with his wife over finances the same night a hockey game was on? what does that have to do with fans acting unruly at sporting events?

  11. bigdong28 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Crosby was definitely the best player in the world before he was hurt. Malkin has always been extremely talented and put up amazing numbers this year. But when it all mattered neither of them could get it done. Let’s be honest numbers are great but if you can’t put up the numbers when it matters then what’s the point? (I cite LeBron in the NBA Finals.) Giroux took game 6 on his back and finished it. That first shift epitomizes Claude Giroux…Sacrifices his body with a big hit then beats fleury short side to show the pens and his team that the series was gonna end tonight. This was the game where the great players stand up and the frauds sit down. If crosby and malkin were better than giroux; they wouldn’t be sitting right now..at home

    • jrillah10 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM

      From Flyer comments you would think it was Giroux vs Crosby/Malkin. I think there were other players on the ice. I mean Max Talbot had nothing to do with how well the Philly played, did he? Giroux won this series by himself.

      • fantasyhockeyguru - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:54 AM

        It was Giroux vs No One…they couldn’t handle him, no one could compare haha

      • bigdong28 - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:00 AM

        My comment was to applaud giroux for his efforts in the first shift and to petition his reputation as a hockey superstar. The whole team played great along with Bryz. I love the flyers and it’s definitely a full team effort but don’t take my comment like I think giroux is the only one out there workin…come on

  12. hockeyfan1701 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    I love my Penguins but it it boils down to this. The Flyers will be playing next week and Penguins will be cleaning out their lockers.

  13. mercyflush - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    I’m a Flyers fan, and before the series I said that if the Flyers lose it’ll be because of Bryz, so I can’t say that I disagree with Malkin.

    If the Flyers are gonna keep going, they need the Bryz from game 5 and game 6 every night. I thought he was sharp in Game 5 and excellent in game 6. (and actually he was strong in game 1, the 3rd goal was fluky and then he shut the pens down for the 2nd and 3rd period and OT).

    If he plays like the games 2 3 and 4, the Flyers are in trouble.

    • jrillah10 - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:18 AM

      @mercyflush

      I’m not a Pens, I just love watching hockey. I thought it was a fun series to watch. Same with Boston and Washington.

      I’m a Tampa fan. I know I don’t have much to stand on after the way they played this season, but I still enjoy watching other teams play.

  14. flyeredup202 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Giroux brought his game 14 points and plenty of energy….. What did Crosby do? And malkin got owned by a rookie.. They are great players but when it mattered they were no where to be found.

  15. broadstbully33 - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    GIROUXSALEM

  16. malkinrulez - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    When giroux hoists the cup than I will put him with the elite. Malkin and Crosby have done it. I will say it looks it could happen this year but bryz needs to be better

    • flyersgoalscoredby88 - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:46 AM

      By that logic Shawn Thornton is elite.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:00 PM

        shawn thornton doesnt put up 100 points per season and run for mvp awards year in and year out. sean thornton isnt in the conversation for best in the world. giroux is if you ask a philly fan but he really hasnt done anything yet to put him up there with datsyuk, malkin, crosby yet. giroux wasnt even good enough to make the olympic team 2 years ago. danny briere had similar numbers 2 years ago in the playoffs and no one crowned him then. flyers fans are excited and i cant blame them but its ridiculous to try to talk about it after one good year. crosby played 42 games last year and had 66 pts, giroux played 82 games and had 76 pts. come on…

      • somekat - Apr 25, 2012 at 12:55 PM

        You just said Danny Briere, and compaired him to G because he put up “similar numbers 2 years ago”?

        Thank you for proving once again, that you know NOTHING about hockey

    • maalea - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM

      Child, Please. Don’t be stupid. So when Mark Howe went into the hall of fame last year he wasn’t elite.

      Dan Marino (one of your home boys) must not have been elite either.

      You are clueless.

    • renberg19 - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:51 PM

      Your logic makes no sense. So Brad Park, Pavel Bure, and Marcel Dionne were never “elite” hockey players?

    • sweezz - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:19 PM

      So your saying winning a stanley cup makes you elite? Than how is it a team with 13… (THIRTEEN?!?!?!) elite players got beat 4-2 by a bunch of non elites and rookies?

  17. fantasyhockeyguru - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Knock, Knock

  18. toegoat - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    The Flyers beat the pens in EVERY aspect of the game in the regular season and in the playoffs… They deserved to win. With that said Giroux is a beast and if he stays hot and leads his team deep into the playoffs/wins a cup there will be no denying his status of (arguably) “best” in the league.
    Also, what’s with everyone crying about other fans/teams crying?
    And all this talk about “staying classy”, geez give me a break, I didn’t realize we were watching some kind of country club golf.
    -Go Pens

  19. renberg19 - Apr 23, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    This thread is hysterical.
    1. Giroux is a better all-around player than Malkin, due to his ability and responsibilities on special teams (offensively and defensively).
    2. Crosby is an amazing hockey player. His antics make him seem worse than he actually is. Let’s not forget that!
    3. Both goalies were AWFUL!

    Sincerely,
    Flyer Fan – that lives outside of the 94 WIP cult.

  20. lsxphotog - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    I guess Malkin didn’t expect his goaltender to be the worst player on the ice in four games…not good.

  21. feva4theflava - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    I have a ‘what if’. What if briere was called offsides?

    • jpelle82 - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:01 PM

      we will never know, but there were much bigger problems than one goal in one game. doesnt explain how the flyers handily put them away in game 6

    • melonheadsdaddy - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:01 PM

      what if the refs didnt wave off a blatant icing? (that ALSO led to a goal)

  22. dsd3 - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:28 PM

    What a dumb comment for Malkin to make. I guess he didn’t pay attention when Bryz was the hottest goalie in the league in March. Or notice that Bryz has much better playoff numbers than MAF (not that that’s very hard). Also odd considering Malkin cast a vote for Bryz for the Kharlamov trophy (award for the best Russian player, as voted by active Russian hockey players).

    Weird.

    • jpelle82 - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:18 PM

      how does bryz have better playoff numbers?
      Career Playoffs – MAF – 43-32 .904 .268
      – BRYZ 16-15 .909 .277

      • jpelle82 - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM

        correction* 2.68 GAA and 2.77 GAA respectively. Stanley Cups – MAF 1 Bryz – 0

      • dsd3 - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:21 PM

        Nope. Bryz won a Stanley Cup with the Ducks. But thanks for playing. And I’d take Bryz’s last three years of playoffs over MAF’s last three any day. Yes, he was terrible last year, but Bryz has been more consistent over his career.

  23. joewilliesshnoz - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    For every cup the scumbags win , the pens will win three . . .

    • renberg19 - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:37 PM

      Very creative. It only took you nearly 26 hours to come up with that! Now, to whom were you referring when you wrote “scumbags?”

  24. cspuck7 - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:37 PM

    If you’re talking about scoring, I give it to Crosby and Malkin. These guys can put up points, but in no way do they play the total game like Giroux. The guy plays in all situations, and that is what I think holds Crosby and Malkin back from c, they have never developed other aspects to their game.

  25. broadstbully33 - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    by your math you are 3 cups short already

  26. vasteelerfan - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    In my forty some years watching hockey as first a bruin fan by birth and a pens fan by geography I have to Philly fans are some of most die hard fans. I salute their victory by the players as well deserved. But in these forty years the fan base for the most part has been the rudest, tasteless bunch of children I have seen/heard. I have lived in both Pitt and Philly both are great cities one has classier fans one doesn’t. One has super bowls and recent cups won one doesn’t. One expects to win one one wishes to win. Good luck flyers you earned your shot. Go get um

    • sweezz - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM

      I’m glad you said one has classier fans, rather than one has class and the other doesn’t. You are implying Pittsburgh fans are classless, just not as much as Philly fans.

      But if you look at it this way it makes sense too…

      Flyers fans have about as much class as Penguins players.

      Oh and by the way, the Pittsburgh fans were oh so gracious and classy winners in the 08 and 09 playoffs…. this is just deserts, suck it up and deal

    • wicky888 - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:55 PM

      Perhaps you should have spent that 40 years studying the English language, including grammar and punctuation. I had to read your post 3 times to understand it.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:53 PM

      FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFgeni !

    • mediatedviscera - Apr 24, 2012 at 11:51 AM

      That would be “Go get em'” not “Go get um” unless you meant “go get, um” which would imply you forgot what you were saying in mid sentence…which is weird and a bit un-nerving because in your post you are trying really hard to sound smart, when in reality, you’re just a few words from “Hey you kids get off my lawn.” I do have to hand it to you (and maybe even I’ll paste together some old trophies I have from Juniors to make it, UM, proper) for the “I’m over 40 and still live with my Mom” award. Ya know, for the guy who tries to be effortlessly profound only to sound like a j*ck *ss when his mom knocks on the door and asks him to get off AOL because she “needs the net.” Jeeze mom I’ll be off in a minute” tick, tock, tick, tock…”OKAY MOM JUST ANOTHER MINUTE!!!!” then goes on to crank out genius that would cause “Joyce to cry in admiration,” “One expects to win one one wishes to win.” My god, darwin grows eerily and specifically spot on everyday…right down to geographic co-ordinate points and internet handles…”Genus Vasteelerfan; one of the region’s few whom named and repeated him self over and over, fancied himself a poet, and migrated south west just above West Virginia or as we call it today “Pennsyltucky.”

  27. vasteelerfan - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:00 PM

    Hit a nerve eh? Hey I wished you luck said you earned it. You have easy feelings to hurt. Must be a Philly inferiority complex.

    • wicky888 - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:11 PM

      You mean ” my feelings are easily hurt” ?

    • sweezz - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:27 PM

      I think you mean…. “Did I strike a nerve? Hey, I wished you luck in my previous post by stating that your team has earned their victory. It seems that your feelings are easily hurt. That must be an effect of the Philadelphia inferiority complex”

  28. vasteelerfan - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    W888 sorry for making u use your tiny brain. Dint get much schooling before I got drafted. Member da draft? Probably not. Lighten up you tool!

    • wicky888 - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:25 PM

      ….and that last post sums it all up.

  29. dawglb - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    @malkinrules, using your reasoning, Dan Marino was not an elite QB. Being elite is not defined by winning a cup. Ray Bourque apparently wasn’t elite until he chased the Cup like a lawyer chases an ambulance…..

  30. vasteelerfan - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

    Tanks fa da hep sweez I fourgot I was not in Philly the home of da smartasses.

  31. dawglb - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM

    While we are talking about Malkin, it is amazing how much he looks like his mother (well, …once she shaves her playoff beard).

  32. garryjercia - Apr 23, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    @jpelle82

    Check your numbers. Bryz certainly dies have a ring. And this is what it looks like :

  33. joewilliesshnoz - Apr 24, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    The Philthadelphia Scumbags and all who root , vomit and cheer for them .

  34. mediatedviscera - Apr 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    “Deep thoughts”…in Pittsburgh?!?!?! what the h*ll must that be like? “Hey Cleatus should I get the Orange Penns Cammo hat or the regular Penns Cammo Hat?

    • jefferythedudelebowski - Apr 24, 2012 at 3:11 PM

      #Flyers1975

    • wicky888 - Apr 24, 2012 at 7:28 PM

      LOL I too made a camo Penguins hat joke on another thread

  35. fdiddy - Apr 25, 2012 at 1:09 AM

    I’m glad the Flyers played the penguins in the first round and not the rangers, otherwise we would have been out in four games. Flyers just had the Pens number this year just like the Rangers had the Flyers number. Pitt played out of their element which made each shot more evident for everyone to see. If it was not the playoffs, Jody Shelly would have been in and most likely suspended for doing something stupid as well. The Flyers had the better coach this round. He’s won a cup before so he has experience as well. The banter was great between the fans but when it’s all said and done, it’s all the keystone state last time I checked. I hated Pittsburgh for those ten days or so and then move on. Now it’s time to hate the next team we face. The rivalry is awesome and look forward to more trash talk next year. Just hope Crosby is healthy and comes back for more and doesn’t turn into Lindros.

  36. icedog97 - Apr 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    I love Flyer fans…even when they win, they aren’t happy.

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