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PHT Poll: Did you enjoy Sunday’s Flyers-Penguins game?

Apr 16, 2012, 4:46 PM EDT

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The indignation from the mainstream media reached epic proportions during and after the Flyers-Penguins game on Sunday.

On Twitter, words like “disgraceful” and “embarrassing” were used to describe the contentious contest in Philadelphia.

Today, Ken Campbell of The Hockey News ripped the NHL, writing, “Those who run the league at its highest levels have so little faith in the beauty, intensity and emotion when the game is played at its highest level that they feel compelled to allow this nonsense to continue relatively unabated.”

On the other hand, the TV ratings were way up.

And for what it’s worth, Philadelphia Eagles linebacker Jamar Chaney tweeted, “No matter the sport. This was the best game I ever attend(ed) as a fan.”

So let’s put it to a poll:

  1. govtminion - Apr 16, 2012 at 4:49 PM

    It’s both. It was disappointing that both teams (that’s BOTH TEAMS) took things in the direction they did… but it made for a very entertaining game at the same time.

    • mercyflush - Apr 16, 2012 at 4:58 PM

      “It was disappointing that both teams (that’s BOTH TEAMS) took things in the direction they did”

      Both teams? I’m sorry, I must have missed something. Which of the Flyers have a meeting today with the NHL to discuss their behavior?

      The Flyers did nothing but defend themselves and their teamates. No other team in the NHL would have reacted differently to the Pens’ nonsense.

    • somekat - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:13 PM

      Please point out the Flyers that made any play that even in a wild dream would be suspension worthy

      I can name 4 Pens off the top of my head

      But yeah, it was BOTH teams….right

      • jpelle82 - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:38 PM

        the knee to knee by grossman, the charge by schenn

      • bdawk20 - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:50 PM

        Schenn’s charge was not called a penalty until after he was crosschecked to the face. You will see the ref did not put his arm up until Schenn was on the ground, so take that away.

        The knee from Grossman wasn’t intentional – nor did it hurt anyone or cause a melee.

      • somekat - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:07 PM

        If Grossman was suspended, that would mean Staal would have to go with him. He did the same thing to Jagr at center ice during the 5 on 3, that wasn’t even called a penalty. I’ll make that trade (niether of them were anything but a reaction play)

        Schenn didn’t charge. Every big hit isn’t a penalty. Schenn’s hit was textbook

    • somekat - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:16 PM

      Also, if it were BOTH teams, when Neal took 2 cheapshots on Flyers players in the 3rd, the next time he was on the ice, the Flyers would of sent their fighters out (you know, like the Pens do just because they are losing a game). But instead they sent out Briere, Wellwood and Schenn, with Kubina and Carle on the blue line…..yeah, they were looking for a fight there!

    • HawaiiHockey - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:21 PM

      It wasn’t both teams. Crosby was responsible for a number of his team members getting into stupid scraps. That guy causes more trouble than he is worth. They played better without him.

  2. davidpcoelho - Apr 16, 2012 at 4:49 PM

    As a fan of neither team, it was highly enjoyable. In the same way that Hobo Fights was appealing.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:44 PM

      Exactly. You just don’t see pure hatred boil over like this much during the regular season anymore. It’s definitely fun to watch.

  3. trbowman - Apr 16, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    In a watch a trainwreck sort of way, but it was painful hockey.

    • HawaiiHockey - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:24 PM

      It wasn’t that bad… it just made the game appear to be a bunch of thugs pretending to be athletic whose real intent is to pound each other.

      Crosby was responsible for a lot of the stupidity that went down. If the league knew what was good for them, then they would single that guy out as a trouble maker and quit pretending he’s the “face of hockey” today.

  4. bennywisest - Apr 16, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    It was both. Flyers played a great physical game and didn’t sink to Pens’ level. The Pens’ played a disgraceful game. They were dominated in every aspect and resorted to cheap shots and dives.

    As a Flyers fan,to me, the game was awesome.

    • blkeskimo1785 - Apr 16, 2012 at 4:58 PM

      That’s exactly how I felt. It was a great game, lots of goals and passion, but the Pens quickly lost their composure. It’s understandable that when you get down like that, you want to send a message, but not through high crosschecks. The officiating could have been better as well, to quell some of the post-whistle scrums.

      • bennywisest - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:49 PM

        Yea the officiating did let that get out of hand. Also Laviolette and the Flyers showed great composure not to pull the cheap shots Pens’ did all game and continued to play tough and smart.

  5. noisetheorem - Apr 16, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    I am very conflicted on this. As a person looking for entertainment, yes…I admit..I was entertained. As someone who loves hockey, I think it was pathetic the cheap shots that were taken and the inability to turn the other cheek and rise above that kind of base level play.

    I think the league needs to clamp down on this. The officiating has been all over the place, and the supplemental discipline has been inconsistent (at best). Some fighting is part of the game..but it is not THE game.

    • emoser - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:38 PM

      I think the biggest problem with officiating was that they felt the need to even out penalties by calling one on both sides.
      –Couturier lays a clean hit and Asham cross-checks him in the face, so they call a penalty on both.
      –They catch Letang diving but give Read a matching penalty anyway.
      –Neal takes a headshot at Giroux and somehow Pittsburgh comes out of it with a double minor.
      –And somehow Crosby doesn’t get kicked out of the game when any other player doing what he did would have been out in the first.

      What incentive does it give the Pens not to do this kind of stuff when the refs are just going to call penalties on both sides? They’re basically giving out free passes to attempt to injure, with the players knowing that at worst it’ll just end up being 5 on 5 or 4 on 4 afterwards.

      • crosberries - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:28 PM

        It was a schenn who asham cross checked moron

      • emoser - Apr 16, 2012 at 8:46 PM

        Yeah, because that makes a huge difference. You’ll have to forgive me if I get my cheap shots mixed up, it’s tough keeping track of them all.

  6. jucam1 - Apr 16, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    It was great to watch the Flyers be a superior team at all levels, they outplayed, out-classed, and out-scored the Pens…. It was particularly great to hear comments from fans of neither team that understood how classless Syd and his teammates were…. The whole nation saw it…great game Flyers!

    • crosberries - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:12 PM

      That’s a first that they outclasses can’t take their own medicine they dished out for years

  7. drpompanoduke - Apr 16, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    Well it wasn’t great hockey…… But it was a great show!!!

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:00 PM

      April 7 was the 50th anniversary of my first NHL game. I’ve seen hundreds of games since then. I love a great game, even a merely good one. This one stank, and sorry, but a bunch of cheap shots and fights just do not turn a lousy game into a great show for this fan. Once it was clear to me that the Pens had lost not just their focus and the game, but their minds as well, I found more enjoyable fare. Very disappointing too, as I had high hopes for this to be a terrific series. Little reason for any optimism of that happening now. Onward to the, so far, much better Caps/Bruins series.

  8. qauzaq - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    Loved that game!

    • polegojim - Apr 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

      Loved the final result. Pens deserved it… or worse.

  9. broadstbully33 - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    pitsburgh was a complete disgrace. they were completely outplayed in every aspect so they resorted to cheap shots, head targeting, blind side hits…..and still lost. 20 goals 3 games a double hat trick….and a rookie named couturier has mad Malkin completely disappear

  10. lasallehockey81 - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    Not sure I can understand how anyone couldn’t LOVE it… I’d agree if every game of the series was brutal like last game that it wouldn’t be good for the spor…. but they haven’t at all.. take the series as a whole, its been fantastic… calling it embarrasing is a bit much, I think… apparently the ratings are showing thatm as well

    • somekat - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:19 PM

      I woudln’t say this series has been “fantastic” at all (and I’m a Philly fan). It’s been 2 straight collapses by Pitt, followed by Pitt getting flogged on national TV. It could be over in 4 games, that is not a “fantastic” series.

      I will say it has been very entertaining, but anything more than that is a reach to say the least at this point

      • lasallehockey81 - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:25 PM

        well, first of all, thats what I mean by fantastic and, second, isnt that kind of the point of all this? its entertainment at the end of the day, correct? I think all these hockey purists that need the NHL to promote the “beauty” of the game at all times are a bit out of control… and what have the ratings been so far this series? best in 10 years? a 50% percent increase since this time last year? thats fantastic..

      • somekat - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:05 PM

        That is fantastic television, not fanastic hockey, and I’m not a “purist”

        If I watch a baseball game, and there are 4 bench clearing brawls, I’m going to be thoroughly entertained. It is not going to be a good baseball game

      • lasallehockey81 - Apr 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM

        Well, I’m not sure how you can compare fighting in baseball to fighting in hockey…. A good game is a good game.. Whether that be because the two teams hate each other and brawl it out or a close, well played “purist” game. I’m actually really surprised at all these people acting like this is the most disgusting thing that’s ever happened in the sport. Calm down, it’s one game in the series….

  11. miketoasty - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    As a Pens fan I thought it was an entertaining game between the whistles (Not including the Neal or Asham incidents) but a disgrace including everything else. I can get over we lost but I can’t get over that we cheap shotted everything wearing orange.

    • crashtheboards55 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:17 PM

      I couldn’t agree more. I hope Mario shows them the tapes from these 3 games and explains to them that they used more energy playing like 15 yr old girls who just got dumped. Gutless. I’m a diehard Pens fan but that was a joke. Pens should issue the league an apology for not being able to take an a$$ whipping like grown men. Schenn left his feet for the hit, but damn he would have done us a favor by taking martin out. The knee by Grossman was not intentional at all. It was incidental contact at best. There was no intent to injure. Grossman is as clean as Orpik when it comes to hitting. Crosby should be fined for slashing Bryzgalov. Asham acted like a complete moron. Neal too. I blame the refs for leaving Neal in the game though. He should have been ejected for boarding Courturier. Even worse was the head hunting on Giroux. The only positive is that Matt Cooke didn’t do a damn thing wrong for once.

      • somekat - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:14 PM

        why would he do that? Mario has no problem with dirty hockey, as long as the Pens are the team delivering the dirty hits.

        They’ve been the dirtiest team in the league for 4-5 years now. It just so happened that this time it happened on national television, and the other team didn’t do anything that the media can point to and say “look, they started it, the Pens were just sticking up for themselves”.

      • crashtheboards55 - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:34 PM

        Yep Mario wants dirty hockey. He is the only owner in the league whose team embarrassed themselves with cheap shots and dirty play. I am in now condoning what they did yesterday. In fact I as a Pens fan think Crosby and Malkin take liberties and play by a different set if rules. I don’t agree with it at all. I do however the league needs to be more consistent and punish EVERYONE who breaks the rules. If Mario were to issue an apology and address the issue that his team created,aune things will start to change. Enough is enough.

      • aglumac - Apr 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM

        As a Pens fan this comment pretty much sums up the way most real fans from Pittsburgh feel. My only thing to add is that any non biased viewer can clearly see that Philly antagonizes as well, so do the Pens by the way, and then the Phills have a habit of diving, many of these guys should have acedemy awards, there where at least two phantom penalties called in this game, but that stuff often happens. Harts is one of my favorite players that doesnt play in Pitt, but enough of the poor us routine, Philly has plenty of guys who have been guilty of the same antics at one time or another, it just didnt happen to be on Sunday, and be careful Philly, didnt you guys come from behind down three games to none against boston in 2010, still have to win none more. And if you think letting up 4 goals a game is stanley cup defense youll be golfing a week later than us at best.

  12. mclovinhockey - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    It was hockey and MMA at its finest. Philly played hard and physical. Pitt let their emotions get to them and played dirty. Minus Pitt taking cheap shots, this is how hockey should be played.

  13. blanchonegro - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:22 PM

    Penguins lost so no didnt enjoy it. lol

  14. caps247 - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    As a hockey fan first, this game is a disgrace and is destroying the integrity of the game.

    As a Caps fan, its about time the Pen’s got a dose of their own medicine. Even their own fans and supporters are embarrassed the way they acted and the Pens deserve to feel the way they do and receive their punishments accordingly.

    It was quite enjoyable for me to laugh at the TV seeing Crosby pull off his usual dirty move, act like he’s tough, then chicken out and let Asham and Neal do all the fighting for him.

    The Penguins have now surpassed the Bruins for being the dirtiest team in the NHL.

    • jpelle82 - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:41 PM

      crosby didnt chicken out on anyone by the way. he fought giroux (and won) and he took on hartnell before adams pulled him away.

      • bennywisest - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:46 PM

        by “won” you mean waited till the ref intervened to thrown a punch on Giroux right?

      • chaser44 - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:52 PM

        HAHAHA he fought giroux and won, are you serious? He locked up with giroux and did not throw one punch until the ref grabbed giroux, then he sucker punched with an uppercut that looked to miss. He grabbed hartnell from behind who eventually got turned back to face him in time for adams to rabbit punch hartnell from behind. I have been to pittsburgh many times and seen the trash that somehow keep that city upright, no shock or surprise here at your response to this poll.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:57 PM

        no i mean he took him down after landing 2 hits. giroux held on for dear life until the refs came in.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:05 PM

        giroux had plenty of opportunity to fight him, every player in the league would love to have that chance (except maybe zidlicky or niskanen), but he held on scared for his life and the refs bailed him out

      • crycindycry - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:12 PM

        he won that fight just like he won this fight

      • jpelle82 - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:28 PM

      • jpelle82 - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:29 PM

        maybe giroux needs to be credited for being smart. if he watched any tape he knew better than to tangle with crosby. last thing he wants is to be seen by a national audience getting laid out by the hated one.

      • aglumac - Apr 16, 2012 at 10:28 PM

        Im sure in the middle of a fight we was worried about the refs, get real, the Pens played classless, but come on, what was Giroux waiting for then, so the refs could come and he could get out of the fight without throwing any hands, his gloves where off first. The Pens should be embarassed, starting with Crosby, but this over analyzing every situation to act like this was a master plan of manipulation is getting old.

  15. phillyphever - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    Great game as a Flyers fan, BUT the defense and Bryz both played like hot garbage yesterday. Flyers REALLY need to fix those or else it’s gonna be a quick 2nd round for them, and not in the good way.

  16. baddorange - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Lots of action, but from a hockey purist, was a train wreck. I enjoyed it and look forward to the next meeting

  17. dawglb - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    If anyone knows what Bettman wants….. It is money, money, money, and ratings equal (umm, …) money. He is a tool. However, with that being said, as a Flyers fan, it is sure nice to watch the Flyers play well, play cleaner than, and embarrass the Pens. I know there are lots of Capitals fans that REALLY appreciate Crosby and Malkin look average. This is the only time that the Flyers are liked outside of Philly.

  18. bleed4philly - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Best game I’ve seen in a long time. Ya can put football players in skirts, for the love of God leave hockey alone.

  19. tangfan - Apr 16, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    its a shame that the pens have been forced to play in the mud with the philthy flyers. the outcome of all three games proves that the pens should have stuck to playing superior hockey that way they could have been rid of these goons wed

    • phillyboy20 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:27 PM

      hahaha could you please explain to me how the pens were FORCED to play in the mud and what about games one and two, the flyers didn’t resort to playing cheap in order to come back and win? What happened was the pens realized that the flyers were better at playing their “superior” brand of hockey got outworked and out skilled and proceeded to act like 5 year old children who don’t get their way.

    • blkeskimo1785 - Apr 16, 2012 at 9:25 PM

      I’ve been waiting for you irrational and delusional fanboys to come out of the woodwork. Superior hockey is not the same thing as giving up a 3 goal lead or just losing all composure.

  20. hockinj25 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    It was fun to watch Sidney TRY to act tough but the rest of the cheap shots were a disgrace.

  21. brian32556 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    As a Ranger fan, my observation is that the Flyers always play a gritty game, similar to the Rangers. The Penguins have some of the best skilled players in the league but their stars are spoiled rotten! Syd the git always whining and as “the face of hockey” getting away with everything. Geno “Only a Face a Mother Could Love” Malkin, cheap shot artist and face puncher whenever someone gets near him. Have you ever seen HIM get penalized for all those head shots? I haven’t. The Pens couldn’t beat the Flyers, and for the last month many others, by being skilled because their defense sucks, so frustration REALLY brought out the worst in them! And I’m lovin’ it!! Sweep ’em Flyers!

  22. dawglb - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    What a treat for the 20,000 fans (19,000 in Orange) that got to scream their brains out during 8 goals, and numerous altercations. The Pens are a bunch of ticking time bombs that will be forced to play smart hockey on Wednesday. (they will have a tremendous internal fight to hold themselves in check). Let’s go Sens! Yes, ….. With an “S”. Beat New York!!!

  23. penzfan329 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    if anyone won that fight it was crosby! although it was a bad fight. letangs was better

    • phillyboy20 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:39 PM

      yea letang managed to beat a 37 yr old who up until that point had never been in a fight, crosby managed to sneak an uppercut in as the ref was breaking up the fight, and adams lands four punches to the back of hartnells head when hes tied up with crosby once hartnell turns around he bear hugs him and holds on until the refs break it up.

      But that wasn’t even the most telling thing about crosby’s character…go back and watch the scrum after giroux takes the elbow to the head (its on one of the previous posts). He wobbles back to the bench crosby hops onto the ice skates around goes up behind giroux to try and grab him and then schenn cuts him off. They chirp at each other then when the lineman comes over he glove jabs schenn the lineman backs off you can see crosby say “you wanna go?” Schenn says something (can’t see hes facing away from the camera) but im guessing its along the lines of yea lets take the visors off because then you can see crosby says something like “I can’t, no F*#% this” and skates away….what a bad a$$

  24. phillyphan83 - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Wow what is wrong with you people? A lousy game? bad hockey? an ugly game? what game were you watching? take out the fights and cheap shots and guess what?? it was a great game!! It was 8-4! You guys are talking like it was 2-0 with an empty netter to seal it. There was 12 goals scored and for a stretch there it went back and forth, pens tied it, flyers scored twice, pens cut it to one, flyers stretched it to 2, back to 1, then back to 2, it was awesome!! Wtf is wrong with you idiots, especially nothanksimdriving123, you’ve been watching 50 years of hockey and can’t recognize the actual hockey game being played between the wistles because of all the extracurricular stuff. That’s pretty pathetic.

  25. dawglb - Apr 16, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    Playoff hockey is the greatest professional sporting event…..period. This series is a great example of that, unless you are a Pens fan.

  26. ialtoguy - Apr 16, 2012 at 7:51 PM

    I have really enjoyed the fantastic goal tending throughout this entire series. 32 goals in 3 games that is playoff hockey.

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  28. ballsohardu - Apr 17, 2012 at 6:25 AM

    Pens are a joke. Crosby should be embarrassed with the way he acted.

  29. debraannewatson - Apr 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

    Having been at the game, I have to say I had a great time. The win, of course, was the most important, and it was great. I was thrilled to see the Penguins fall apart, and for Sidney Crosby to show his true colors – Face of the NHL, Ugh! The building – the whole experience – was manic. I left the building with fuzzy hearing, no voice and a killer headache. This was a Sunday afternoon I will never ever forget.

    That said, I’d prefer never to see another game like this one again (regardless of the teams involved). While I enjoy the fighting and roughness, I’d prefer to go to a hockey game to see a good hockey game.

  30. hcky000 - Apr 18, 2012 at 1:48 AM

    Most of you sound like pussies. If you didnt like game 3, go watch a ball sport.

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