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Matt Carkner will miss a game for fighting Brian Boyle

Apr 15, 2012, 8:47 PM EDT

Just moments ago, the New York Rangers lost valuable winger Carl Hagelin for three games – the most severe suspension of the 2012 season – for elbowing Daniel Alfredsson. With that in mind, Rangers fans might not be especially happy that Ottawa Senators tough guy Matt Carkner received a single game suspension for beating the daylights out of Brian Boyle.

(Slow motion doesn’t do Carkner many favors, does it?)

I’ll be honest; I’m not totally sure that the NHL’s developing an intelligible pattern with its disciplinary decisions. Does this punishment seem fair to you? Did Carkner deserve more games, no suspension or was this A-OK? How about if you look at it without thinking about Hagelin’s punishment, if possible? Share your observations in the comments.

  1. phillyphever - Apr 15, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    Eh, I really doubt Carkner would have played in game 3 anyway, even without the suspension. Not exacly a big loss here.

    • phillyphever - Apr 15, 2012 at 8:57 PM

      Yeah, looking at his stats this season, he’s basically dead roster weight for the Sens. Should have been longer, but Carkner most likely wasn’t gonna play again in the playoffs.

    • baywatchboy - Apr 16, 2012 at 12:15 PM

      Maybe they should consider not just suspending players, but taking away a roster spot. That would hurt more than a player like this.

      • phillyphever - Apr 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM

        That could be something being brought up in the CBA talks over the summer.

  2. bloggersarenotjournalists - Apr 15, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    People who cry for more than 1 game for this are the types that never played hockey before or those who only play Jr. Gentlemens leagues where it’s about beer and fun.

    So ya, I expect Rangers fans and others to be upset at 1 game while the rest of us sees 3 for the elbow and 1 for this as completely normal.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:23 PM

      I thought this was all part of hockey? Funny a guy gets suspended one game for something thats such an integral part of hockey. I said a game or two and you eviscerated me. But look who was right.

  3. odj810 - Apr 15, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Agree or disagree I think the Main component of suspensions is weather or not you injure the other player. Which makes me wonder if asham will even get a game.

    • phillyphever - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:01 PM

      He’s gonna get something. IDK how much, but Shanny’s gonna give him a suspension.

  4. habsman - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:01 PM

    Every time Colin Campbell says something, Brendan Shanahan’s lips move.

  5. bloggersarenotjournalists - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    Oh Ill be honest too

    Nobody in professional hockey will be surprised by this, only people outside the sport trying to understand it will scratch their heads…
    I don’t think James O’Brien has played hockey in his life.
    At least nothing beyond renting the ice with friends and playing shinney

  6. islandersfan - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    Not a big technical loss for Ottawa since he (likely) wasn’t going to dress anyways but … how is this only one game? Tell him he’s done for the playoffs (or first round anyways)

  7. bruinpred - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    I think this was a call by a guy who played the sport. Boyle is a big guy who plays small and engages only with smaller players. Unlike Weber, for example, Boyle refused to go despite his attack in game 1. If it was Tobias Enstrom or Steve Sullivan as opposed to Carkner, Boyle would have gone. I think Shanny recognizes this.

    • jkay1818 - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:49 PM

      Come on, you make it like Boyle dropped his gloves in game 1 and dragged karlsson all over the ice and beat him down. They got not a shoving match after the whistle where they both got minors. That’s it, didn’t warrant any of that garbage in game 2.nboyle isn’t some goon or has a rep of being some tough guy. Hs just tall. In fact, he isn’t at good of a fighter at all. He’s prob the 7th toughest guy on that roster. What happened w him and karlsson is being blown way out of proportion. Although if you look at who Boyle fought this yr, no one was along e lines of Sullivan or enstrom, in fact they were against some of the tougher Guys in the NHL, guys he shouldn’t be fighting bc he stinks at it

      • bruinpred - Apr 15, 2012 at 10:59 PM

        Sorry – I watched the game with a 6’7” 250 pound guy punching Karlsson in the face.

    • jkay1818 - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:59 PM

      Also, refused to go? Go with who? He was jumped by carkner and gutless carkner was punching him while he was down. I think it’s funny coming from a username like yours where you defend weber, bc zetteberg is his size and also root for a guy like lucic who feasts on hitting little guys from behind and only fighting guys 4 inches or shorter and 60 pounds less.

      • bruinpred - Apr 15, 2012 at 11:02 PM

        Weber fought Bertuzzi, Lucic won a cup.

      • jkay1818 - Apr 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

        Lucic won a cup so he is allowed to not fight guys his size or bigger but only smaller players. Boyle punching him in the face? So the matching minors while they were face washing one another. Got it. Boyle couldn’t refuse to go w carkner, he had no choice, he was jumped. but, he do fight Chris Neil. There goes your argument, Neil is tougher than both weber and bertuzzi. He’s big Boyle but doesn’t fight. It’s only acceptable when chara gets rocked by someone with size and fights guys 5″9. And your argument is lucic won a cup? You sound like a moron. Your first comment alone shows you prob didn’t even watch the game with Boyle and karlsson but just wanted to talk

  8. scif21 - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    terrible decision by Shanny. this type of play has no business in hockey and is very similar to the bertuzzi/ moore incident of years past (minus the fractured vertebrae) at the start of the season i thought Shanny would be a good league disciplinarian but these playoffs have proved otherwise.

  9. ray2013 - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Standards. A certain type of play deserves a certain prescribed punishment. Add more if it causes injury. Add more if there is a repeat offender. Hockey fans shouldn’t have to be oracles to be able to watch a play and guess whether it would warrant a suspension.

    • themohel - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:31 PM

      You are completely correct. Not only fans, but players should not have to be oracles either.

      • ray2013 - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM

        You got that right themohel. I don’t know how you can enforce a set of rules when it seems like Shanny is making up the punishment as he goes. This is where clear standards can tell a player, whether he’s a rookie or the face of the league, you do this, it’s a suspension. It also removes any appearance of impropriety or favoritism, because he’s applying the standards equally.

  10. nesuperfan - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    Should have been three games because he is a repeat offender.

  11. themohel - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    The goon on VAN gets 2 games. The guy on NYR gets three for the hit on Alfie. This guy gets only one. What the hell is Shanny doing????? How does he come up with different results in the VAN and NYR situations? They were basically the same hit and both victims were hurt. The league is losing credibility rapidly.

  12. chip56 - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:36 PM

    So Hagelin gets 3 games for an elbow but Carkner gets one game for mugging a defenseless player. Makes perfect sense to me. It’s not what you do, it’s who you do it to. Had Carkner assaulted Gaborik he would have been out for 5 games (had he done it to Crosby he would never play in the NHL again)

  13. amonte13 - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:45 PM

    Lesson for Carl Hagelin, instead of hitting with elbows, drop the gloves on the way towards Alfie and come in with fists flying.
    Where’s the suspension for Phillips? His hit on Callahan was the worst of the three.

  14. dclogicatlast - Apr 15, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    I assume this means Neal and Asham will be sitting games, but it seems Shanny rolls the “punishment dice” to decide. Could be 1 or could be 6. Lets roll and find out.

    • odj810 - Apr 16, 2012 at 8:27 AM

      noone was hurt on philly which makes me think asham will get one game and thats it. Which is a crying shame. Though since I don’t root for either team I’ll be glad if all the guns are back for game 4

  15. exe122 - Apr 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    Brendan Shannahan lost my respect quite some time ago. That idiot has WAY too much power and is making calls so inconsistent, they have become an absolute joke. Even the team owners and commentators have seem to lost respect for him and his pathetic ‘policing’. The league has got to get rid of that clown before he embarrasses the sport any more.

  16. drewsylvania - Apr 15, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    The moment it happened, I wondered if it was a beating ordered by the coach.

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