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Jaromir Jagr can’t help but compare Sean Couturier to Ron Francis

Apr 14, 2012, 10:49 AM EDT

Jaromir Jagr, Matt Read, Pavel Kubina

We’ve known all season long that Jaromir Jagr is a huge admirer of Claude Giroux‘s game in Philadelphia but he’s got another young star who he can’t help but laud after last night. Flyers rookie Sean Couturier netting a hat trick in the Flyers’ 8-5 Game 2 win over Pittsburgh got Jagr gushing and comparing him to another former Penguins teammate.

As Jagr told Seth Rorabaugh of Empty Netters, he’s almost run out of great things to say about Couturier.

“I don’t know if I know if I know any words to describe his game today. Awesome? Maybe something better than that,” Jagr asked. “I would say he’s our best defensive forward. Age 18-, 19-year-old. Ron Francis was kind of like that. “

Jagr compared Claude Giroux to Mario Lemieux at the beginning of the year and again on Twitter after the game, but comparing Couturier to Francis for the work he’s done in keeping likely MVP Evgeni Malkin quiet so far and in scoring goals makes Francis an apt, but lofty one for now.

With the Flyers up 2-0 in the series and heading back home with a chance to put the Penguins away, it’s tough to say that Jagr is wrong for his compliments. Now it’s up to the Penguins to silence Jagr and prevent him from comparing other Flyers to his former Penguins Stanley Cup-winning teammates.

  1. captjackwagon - Apr 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM

    This is a joke, right? Apples to oranges. We should wait to see how it ends up before annointing him with greatness. And Giroux comparison with Mario? Note to Jagr, I think you need to take some notes…it is puff, puff, PASS…
    He must have been smoking something with this ridiculous talk.

    • tcclark - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM

      he’s not the only one who’s compared Couturier to Francis. I know he’s not the smartest guy in the world, but Pierre McGuire compared him to Francis last night even before he scored. I’ve heard it elsewhere too. The kid is something special

      • rainyday56 - Apr 14, 2012 at 5:10 PM

        Pierre Maguire compares everyone with Ron Francis. This past week he was saying the same thing about Kopitar in a phone in to the team 1040 radio. Francis appears to be the latest incarnation of Stan Johnathan.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 14, 2012 at 7:20 PM

      He beat him like a rented mule !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. jucam1 - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    The comparisons are meant to make his teammates feel good while pointing out that the Flyers are owning the Pens so much that they are spotting Syd the Whiner and his team 2-3 goals a game and they’re winning…. Forecast in Pittsburgh today?… Cloudy with a 100% chance of whining and crying…

    • clamnewton - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM

      There is truth to these comments – they’re not simply lip service. Coots is an incredible defensive player that also has crazy offensive talent. He also plays smart – rarely drawing penalties. Sounds a lot like Ron Francis to me. Francis was one of the very, very, very few Pens I could never hate – very classy guy.

  3. num1eaglesfanyo - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    He knows what he’s talking about. COME BACK KINGS!

  4. vasteelerfan - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Forcast for Philly today 100 percent chance of ignorance and no chance of class. Whining ….. Ya right

    • biasedhomer - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM

      the Pitt forecast was right, it seems

    • snutchpro - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:43 PM

      speaking of class…the pens are being schooled by the flyers.

    • snutchpro - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:43 PM

      speaking of class…the pens are getting schooled by the flyers.

  5. drpompanoduke - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Love it, Sid is the fav of the NHL Madison Avenue gang & despised by rest of league. JJ pumping up his teammates & making statement to NHL hsqrtrs about playing favorites. Go Flyers.

  6. num1eaglesfanyo - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:28 AM


  7. num1eaglesfanyo - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    GenoPringles and Crosberries must be laying in bed together trying to figure out what their gona say on here. It just proves you girls are all talk and can’t take the heat. Its called karma ladies….karma.

    • crosberries - Apr 14, 2012 at 1:42 PM

      Clearly your retarded and you snuck on your moms computer to ramble about nothing that makes sense yo your retarded name says it all

      • tcclark - Apr 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM


        hahaha I love when someone messes up with grammar when insulting someone’s intelligence.

      • lasallehockey81 - Apr 14, 2012 at 4:23 PM

        A guy who named himself “Crosberries” which sounds like a reference to Crosby’s scrotum is giving his opinion on names now?

  8. jucam1 - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings vasteelers…. However class is not constantly diving to get penalties to get penalties and ignorance is whining constantly with the refs about how they’re not getting all of the penalties in the series…. I wasn’t referring to the fan base but the team…. Either way, enjoy the rest of the series….

    • emoser - Apr 14, 2012 at 1:58 PM

      I’m surprised I haven’t heard more from Pens fans about Letang’s diving penalty. Such an embarrassment to their team… you’d think they’d at least get on him for it.

      • somekat - Apr 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM

        Par for the course in Pittsburgh

        Check the penalty at 10:55 of the first from game 2, Grossman penalty for “hitting” Neal. Grossman gets there, puts a hand on him, and Neal dives forward like he’s knees were taken out (in the opposite direction Grossman would of pushed him, if that happened), and of course, gets the call for it. The Flyers scored shorthanded on the PP, but still yet another example of Pens diving

  9. bleed4philly - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    Keep whining pens fans, just like your team! Go Flyers!

  10. dawglb - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Jucam, keep the weather reports coming….. ! Love ’em!

  11. emperorzero - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    As Nicolas cage would say: “That’s high praise.” Giroux is showing himself to be a beast and if Couturier continues this level of play, then it’s hard not to see a bright future for the Flyers.

    And I say this as a former Flyers fan (pre-Brind’Amour trade), but guys, the series isn’t over yet and there is a lot of yapping from fans for a team that hasn’t won crap since I was four. Enjoy the 2-0 lead, but it’s a long playoff to hoist The Cup.

  12. dawglb - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    Let’s hope all this praise (from Jagr) means he will re-sign with the Flyers!

    • biasedhomer - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM

      Flyers should not resign Jagr, they have guys on the 4th line that are too skilled for that role, those players need to be bumped up.

      • lasallehockey81 - Apr 14, 2012 at 5:57 PM

        Let’s all thank God you’re not an advisor to Paul Holmgren.

      • biasedhomer - Apr 14, 2012 at 7:35 PM

        You really think the Flyers should spend another 3 mill on Jagr? Dont forget that JVR’s salary rises by 3 mill, Grossmans salary jumps, so does Coburns. They also must resign Vorachek. He will get above 3 million. All of this, plus need to fill the void left by Carle (or resign Carle to about 5 mill per year), justifies the reason to not resign Jagr.

        Rather than resign Jagr, they should see if they can go out and sign Suter, and address the need to have a young #1 Dman.

        And as can be seen in these playoffs, Jagr has been pretty silent until that goal, he is noticeably slow. The pace of the game is faster in the playoffs, and Jagr’s legs are not gonna get younger.

        There is no need to resign Jagr, there is a need to improve the defense.

        Let’s all thank God you’re not an advisor to Paul Holmgren.

  13. vasteelerfan - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    I enjoy good hockey and so far it has been all philly. Just tired of the stupid posts of those blind fans who just view their teams as being slighted when calls go against I respect effort and excellance even against my team. Right now props to Philly players and disgust for the peabrained fan base.

  14. GenoPringles - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    All part of the frAnchise’s plan. Keep yappin you smelly filthy fans. You can’t keep The Soupcan down for ever, much like Jesus he will rise again. There is a reason these contests are best of 7, and soon you will find out.

    • clamnewton - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:26 PM

      Jesus rose last night – and he was wearing a Giroux jersey. We just call him Orange Jesus. Prepare to be wowed into early June by his humble, yet profound acts of brilliance.

    • tcclark - Apr 14, 2012 at 4:03 PM

      Man If Crosby is Jesus, I’d be afraid for all of us. In his last full season, Crosby went 0-6 against the Devils with a -6 rating and shot 6%. That’s right. 6-6-6 against the Devils….. creepy

    • somekat - Apr 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM

      yes, the soup cup scouts speak!!!

  15. GenoPringles - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    And that bum Jagr is a cheater. I’m not 100% sure but that blade he’s using looks illegal. Would not shock me to see someone in filthy cheating. Wake up disco dan and call this cheater out

    • snutchpro - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:50 PM

      that bum helped your team win a cup. and now the flyers are cheaters, how else could the franchise lose??

      • tcclark - Apr 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM

        He wasn’t alive when Jagr was on the team. That’s why he doesn’t remember.

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Apr 14, 2012 at 3:37 PM

      There he is haha.

    • somekat - Apr 14, 2012 at 4:54 PM

      you are 100% sure it looks illegal? That is one of the dumbest statements in history

      The Pens are free to challenge that at any point of any game

  16. truehockeyfan - Apr 14, 2012 at 1:01 PM

    Geno please shut up already…….real fans know the series is far from over so will not count my chickens before they hatch. I will say this however, Pens fans like to say we have no class fair enough our eagles fans a pretty bad at times but we never booed a future first ballot HOF. When Gagne came back we cheered, when Richards came back and they put him up on the big screen we thanked him and when Mario played his last game before retiring and after coming back from cancer we gave him a standing O so we may have smattering of idiots but its easy for me to see a he’ll of a lot more class then you guys….but hey maybe that’s because we’ve been one of the best franchises in NHL history it may not translate into cups but give me something every year to hope for than something every 10. Look at what both teams have done since 67 there is no comparison except in titles so you can throw that out all you but honestly I don’t care!:)

    • GenoPringles - Apr 14, 2012 at 1:59 PM

      Glad to hear you are satisfied with being average. Speaking of the big screen in your building, how was it classy when your fans boo’d Soupcan Sid for being part of an anti-cancer video. How classy is it to beat up war hero’s? How about throwing batteries or snowballs? My point is this reputaion isnt made up, you smelly pee drinkers have earned it. Keep on being average truehockeyfan, you are basiclly the chicago cubs of hockey

      • tcclark - Apr 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM

        man you really know how to piss some people off don’t you? Do you do it on purpose or are you just that thick-headed?

        1. They were booing Sidney Crosby for being the most hated person in the city, not for being in an “anti-cancer video.” He could have been in a video praising the city of Philadelphia and we still would have booed him.

        2. Fans beat up other fans all over the country. A SF Giants fan was put in a coma not too long ago, and it’s not like the guy knew he was a freaking war hero before he beat him up. I’m not condoning what he did, but don’t use that against the guy…. plus one fan doesn’t equal an entire fan base.

        3. The Batteries were just for JD Drew and it was 14 years ago. Get some more recent incidents.

        4. The Snowballs were for a 19 year old guy dressed in a Santa Suit who was pulled out of the stands to entertain an angry fan base at half time. He is still an huge Eagles fan and isn’t upset about the situation so why should we be? Oh and that was 45 years ago. Your mom probably wasn’t even alive.

        5. smelly pee drinkers? really?

        6. Average? The Flyers have the second highest winning percentage of All-Time in the NHL. And the 8th highest in American Big Four Sports. They’ve been to the conference finals more times than any other team in history, and have missed the playoffs a total of 8 times. That’s average to you?

    • captjackwagon - Apr 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM

      I see where you are coming from and appreciate it. The fans though have not always shown allot of class. Didn’t the Phillies fans boo pitcher Adam Eaton at the ring celebration after they won the World Series, then brawl in Ashburn Alley as the title flag is raised? Didn’t they have to install a court/judge/jail at the stadium to deal with all of the idiots? Throwing bateries and glass bottles at opposing players/teams? We all have fans that are classless and go way over the edge. Just wish the people kept everything in perspective and just rooted (in a reasonable way) for their sports teams regardless. That is one thing Philly fans have always done, and I applaud them for that.

      • tcclark - Apr 14, 2012 at 3:44 PM

        If you had to watch Adam Eaton pitch, you would’ve booed too

  17. bobhpine - Apr 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    Well if Pierre McGuire and the scholar jaromir Jagr say something…then if must be true… Or just moronic

  18. GenoPringles - Apr 14, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    The LeTang diving penalty was a joke, his feet were kicked out from under him and the ref calls a dive? Maybe the NHL can say sorry again, that will fix it.

    • lasallehockey81 - Apr 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM

      This guy has an excuse for everything. You know what the real joke is? Blowing 5 leads in 2 games at home and still being called “Cup Favorites”. Here’s another one for you…, a Hart Trophy winner is being rendered basically useless in those two games by, get this, a nineteen year old kid. Pretty funny, huh? Since we’re having such a good time, let’s enjoy one more… Look up Crosby’a ice time in the 3rd period……that’s it, that’s the joke.

    • tcclark - Apr 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM

      Read hit him in the arm….. You need to take an anatomy class

    • somekat - Apr 14, 2012 at 4:58 PM

      LOL, Read’s feet didn’t even move. What a joke you are. A bigger joke than Letang, aka the most overrated dman in the league today

  19. bobhpine - Apr 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM

    After two playoff games Sean couturier has just been inducted into the hall of fame

    • mercyflush - Apr 14, 2012 at 5:00 PM

      seriously, most of you Pens’ fans are F-ing jokes. If its ANYTHING that’s praising any other player, you guys are all over it. if its ANYTHING that’s negative about your team, you can’t take it.

      Here’s a fact: When the Penguins were the worst team in the NHL in 2004, they were LAST in the league in attendance. When the Flyers were the worst team in the league in 2006, they were 7th in the NHL in attendance, and averaged over 19,000+ a game that season. You are the biggest group of bandwagon jumpers in sports. Your franchise has been on the cusp of bankruptcy several times because you don’t support the team unless they are winning (which hasn’t h

      • mercyflush - Apr 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM

        …which hasn’t happened much in their overall history.

        I can’t wait until the Flyers end this series and Pens fans go back into hibernation until next season. (there are several on these boards that are fine, but most are terrible).

        And to bobhpine… the teenager Couturier has dominated Malkin this series. That’s a fact that you cannot deny.

      • mmmpierogi - Apr 14, 2012 at 11:58 PM

        Since we’re talking “facts” here ..

        First, Philly metro population is well over twice that of Pittsburgh’s (5.9 versus 2.4). That’s a much larger base of people to sell tickets to, irrespective of how the team is performing – market size matters. Also, attendance has been low in certain years, but it’s more frequently on par with DC, Boston, Toronto, NJ, etc. during normal years.

        Second, Mellon Arena had a max capacity of 16,900-ish; Wells Fargo can do approx 19,500. Fun fact of the day: it is physically impossible to seat 19,000+ in an arena that seeks 2,000+ less than that.

        Third, to their credit, the Flyers have been consistently successful over the past 20 years (and further back, but that’s all I need for my example). To go from being consistently successful to having one single down year (2006) will not affect attendance rates for that down year the same way that you would expect for a team like the Penguins, where success has been, relatively speaking, less consistent over time. It’s really not all that surprising that the Flyers’ attendance rates only dropped to 7th, because people are still amped up on the team and view it as what it is – a down year. All 5.9 million people in the area aren’t going to stop going to games.

        Fourth, regarding the bankruptcy, do yourself a favor and stick to Philly sports. Ticket sales were a factor in the bankruptcy, but it was far from being the sole or primary factor — other considerations included lingering effects of the lockout, mismanagement on the part of Craig Patrick in multiple areas (e.g., business agreements, trades), and problems managing payroll. If you don’t know any of this, then don’t discuss matters about which you have limited or no knowledge; if you do know any of this, then you’re knowingly mischaracterizing the situation with the intent of being obnoxious.

  20. hoopshort - Apr 14, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    I get a kick out of Penguins fans, you guys have been gushing about Crosby since hes been in the league and when someone else is hyped a little (Couturier) you drip with sarcasm.

  21. hoopshort - Apr 14, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    Dust off a little Kate Smith.

  22. somekat - Apr 14, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    the young guys on the flyers are amazing. Also, if they can advance (of if someone goes down), JVR (22) is poised to return. I would guess Rinaldo or Wellwood depending on what you needed (physical game or skating/playmaking) will sit. But just another boost. Just need to get this first 20 minutes figured out

    Haven’t seen a recent update on a timetable for Meszaros

  23. heyzeus143 - Apr 14, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    keep talking philly, please keep talking

  24. mclovinhockey - Apr 14, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    I think it’s funny that Pitt fans have names talking about one player from their team, yet flyers fans have names talking about hockey in general. So who is the true fan of the sport… Very easy to guess.

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