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PHT Morning Skate: Flyers-Penguins fallout and more

Apr 12, 2012, 7:30 AM EDT

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PHT’s Morning Skate takes a look around the world of hockey to see what’s happening and what we’ll be talking about around the NHL world and beyond.

CSNPhilly.com went all-out to capture the excitement of Game 1 of the Philadelphia Flyers-Pittsburgh Penguins series. Tim Panaccio goes in detail regarding the comeback from a 3-0 deficit, John Gonzalez discusses Ilya Bryzgalov’s bear of a start and Sarah Baicker spotlights Danny Briere’s impressive playoff “clutch” factor.

NHL.com takes a look at how Kris Letang‘s great start was subdued by the fact that his night ended so poorly. (NHL.com)

From the look of things, the Detroit Red Wings-Nashville Predators series might go a full seven games. (Detroit Free Press)

CSNNE.com’s Joe Haggerty and CSNWashington.com’s Chuck Gormley break down both sides of the Boston Bruins-Washington Capitals series. (CSNNE.com)

The Los Angeles Kings had an awfully interesting message for “everyone in Canada outside BC” after Dustin Penner & Co. beat the Vancouver Canucks 4-2 in Game 1. (Puck Daddy)

Joel Quenneville and Dave Tippett were once teammates. Now they’re coaching opposing teams in an intriguing series between the Chicago Blackhawks and Phoenix Coyotes. (CSNChicago.com)

The New York Rangers are glad that captain Ryan Callahan will be available to start the 2012 playoffs. (ESPN New York)

Speaking of which, Sarah McLellan reports that the Coyotes are “ready to get intense.” (AZ Central)

Brodie Brazil, Kevin Kurz and Ray Ratto break down a challenging endeavor for the San Jose Sharks: scoring against the St. Louis Blues. (CSNBayArea.com)

  1. rtrmusic - Apr 12, 2012 at 8:19 AM

    Apparently the Refs don’t understand the concept of being offsides.

    • spiffy53 - Apr 12, 2012 at 8:33 AM

      nor icing. or that whipping your head back like you were shot could actually be “acting” and not an actual penalty (3 times last night).

      • wyosig - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:00 AM

        yeah, no else dives in the league. Unfortunately it’s part of hockey and everyone participates in it. If you disagree you are obviously delusional. I agree it’s sucks to have it happen but that is where it lies in the referees to actually start calling that unsportsmanlike penalty. Hockey won’t be a real sport until the officiating changes.

      • miketoasty - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:06 AM

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz8FDBL4-mU

        Watch the one second mark, you see a player being shoved into the boards and not being able to play the puck, that negates the icing and is why the other ref waived it off.

        Also, try and protect your head after two concussions? Nah, lets keep it close to where everyone’s sticks are waiving. Sounds like a great idea.

      • spiffy53 - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:09 AM

        i expect as much from other players, but we keep coming back to crosby. when you say “no one else dives in the league”, yes, you are correct. however, rarely have i ever (nor you) seen a player of crosby’s caliber get caught up in this nonsense like he does. i do not remember Gretzky, Messier, Lemieux and even now Datsyuk doing this bush league stuff that crosby does. and everyone wonders why crosby gets a hardtime from hockey fans.

      • kellyb9 - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:15 AM

        @wyosig – Listen, I’m generally okay with some level of diving/embellishment, but if Sydney Crosby is the best player in the league, he gets around a 40 year old Jagr. There’s no excuse for that… it’s pathetic.

      • wyosig - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:17 AM

        Gretzky did in fact dive all the time, Messier was too busy throwing elbows at everyone to get around to it, Lemieux did his fair share throughout his carerr, and you are right in saying datsyuk doesn’t (which is admirable). The only reason Crosby gets this bad rap is his first two years in the league where he chirped at referees more than he should have.

      • spiffy53 - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:20 AM

        miketoasty, look at the replay again and get the other replay of the linesman that had his arm up for the icing. the linesman who had his arm up for icing was run into by two tangled players and put his arm down to protect himself. the linesman that you mention does not appear to be determining if anyone touches the puck or not. if you relook at your tape, if he was, he would have been closer to the play and not blocked by bryzgalovs head. i would like to know from the one linesman if he thought the icing was waived off or not.

      • wyosig - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:23 AM

        and just to clarify when I said “no one else dives in the league” I was being sarcastic. Next time I will add #sarcasm tag.

      • wyosig - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:28 AM


        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc0ICH3JvAw

        For your viewing pleasure.

      • spiffy53 - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM

        i knew you were being sarcastic. i guess you missed the point altogether and are on a mission to only listen to yourself. ignorance must be bliss in your house.

      • wyosig - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:40 AM

        I’m still waiting for you to address the video links I posted.

      • spiffy53 - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM

        i already did. not sure what part of “i expect as much from other players, but we keep coming back to crosby. when you say “no one else dives in the league”, yes, you are correct” from my other post you did not understand. see, those quotes mean that i said something earlier and that i am letting you know (by using quotes) that it is not a current statement, but a prior statement.

      • maalea - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:48 AM

        That’s only one reason why Carcillo is no longer a Flyer. They are too many to list.

      • fbothharbaughs - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:51 AM

        @ spiffy 53, you mean when Sid’s head snapped back after being punched in the face by the Flyers’ d-man after his goal?

        & kellyb9, what does the fact that Sid’s the world’s best player have to do with “getting around a 40 yr.-old Jagr”? He tried skating around him & Jagr pulled him down…

  2. feva4theflava - Apr 12, 2012 at 8:21 AM

    Has anyone noticed how Milbury bullies his counterparts when they disagree? Instead of have an intelligent debate, he pouts and gets angry like a small child. And he’s never neutral with his analysis. He truly is an unprofessional ass and it’s beyond me why NBC keeps him employed when there are so many other good analyzers out there. Sorry for posting this here but I needed an outlet to vent!

    • wyosig - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:03 AM

      Milbury is an ass

  3. philly4lyfe - Apr 12, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Actually it is a penalty, unsportsmanlike conduct for diving.

  4. feva4theflava - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    Wow, never have I seen so many people put a spotlight on the officiating. I thought the game was called pretty fair last night, refs let both teams play unlike the Detroit game where players were called for sneezing. Sure some things were missed both ways but you can’t focus on that. In the end the better team will win and Philly was better last night. Stop crying to both Philly and pitt fans.

    • maalea - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:38 AM

      AMEN!!!

      It was hard hitting but very little stick work or post whistle face washes/scrums.

    • snutchpro - Apr 12, 2012 at 8:52 PM

      agreed. really, the score in the first could have been more than 3-0, refs let at least three flyers infractions go unwhistled. flyers were completely shell shocked in the first. hopefully campbells comments don’t change the officiating here.

  5. ottograham - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Rough loss. Why we bothered even coming out of the locker room for OT is beyond me. We got outplayed, outworked, outhustled. Rough to watch.

    • Buffalo Grumblings - Apr 12, 2012 at 5:34 PM

      …and now you lost home ice advantage.

      • ottograham - Apr 14, 2012 at 12:39 PM

        insightful

  6. bihler7 - Apr 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    I am so sick of hearing all of this referee and diving craap, get over it. I am a big Penguins fan, we flat out lost the game last night because the Flyers straight outworked us after the 1st and our defensemen forgot how to bring the puck up the ice apparently.

    Sure the refs missed the Briere offside and the icing on the Pens 3rd goal, it happens, what do you want replay for everything and watching a hockey game that has no flow like the NFL and takes 3 1/2 hours to get the game over with? Referees make mistakes and it will go for both teams back and forth all series and will happen for every other series as well. To win a Stanley Cup you have to overcome those things.

    The Flyers did a great job of forechecking and clogging up the neutral zone on the Penguins tonight, Pittsburgh has to find a better way of bringing the puck up the ice. Once they were able to get into the Flyers zone they had great zone presence, it just didn’t happen very often in the 2nd and 3rd period.

    Also someone should tell Paul Martin and Zibnek Michalek that in playoff hockey you need to get hit in order to make plays so if they want to continue to play like women they can find themselves on the golf course after 3 more games cause this series won’t last long unless the Penguins realize they need to do what it takes to win playoff hockey games.

    If you just focus on the actual hockey that was played it makes for alot more interesting conversation about the game.

    • etjla - Apr 12, 2012 at 10:43 AM

      Glad I’m not the only one who thought Martin and Michalek were soft and clueless most of the game.

      Staal also was just standing around watching on two of the goals.

    • maalea - Apr 12, 2012 at 11:33 AM

      Did LaTang run out of gas?
      Briere Schooled him on the 2nd goal, Schoen got by him on the 3rd and he flat out booted the puck on the game winner.

  7. drewsylvania - Apr 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    As much as I hate diving, the refs encourage it by not being able to make calls correctly.

  8. ll8078 - Apr 12, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    so lets just wait until the Penguins have a breakaway opportunity and offsides is called when they are onside by a fraction of an inch. you don’t call that offsides in real life and full speed, ever.

    Blame your defense for letting Briere behind them, in the way im sitting here blaming the Flyers for not getting the puck on that questionable no-icing call. Blaming the refs is just a sign of weakness.

  9. phillyphan83 - Apr 12, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    it should be noted by someone that the pens didn’t even get called for their first penalty until almost halfway through the 3rd period. They missed offsides calls both ways and certainly didn’t let the flyers get away with ANYTHING! it was a crap attempt at officiating but it didn’t effect the outcome, like ottograham said, you got out worked and outhustled, something I didn’t think would happen if it was only 2-0 instead of 3-0.

  10. phillyphan83 - Apr 12, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    where’s genopringles, that homer troll is hiding after a loss??

  11. andyisfat - Apr 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    HA HA! Pengirls fans whine more than Cindy and Gina.

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