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Tortorella fumes over Orpik hit: “Imagine if it happened to one of their (bleeping) superstars”

Apr 5, 2012, 10:17 PM EDT

The Pittsburgh Penguins can reasonably be called media darlings, but they’re far from angels. A questionable Brooks Orpik knee-to-knee hit on Derek Stepan during Pittsburgh’s 5-2 win has the New York Rangers fuming, with outspoken head coach John Tortorella leading the way.

Here’s a greatest hits collection of quotes via Steve Zipay:

“It’s one of the most arrogant organizations in the league. They whine about this stuff all the time and look what happens,” Tortorella said. “Imagine if it happened to one of their (bleepin) superstars.”

Jeez, Torts just never cuts to the core of a situation, does he? Always beating around the bush. A diplomat from birth.

Before we move on to the more specific “criticisms” of Orpik’s hit, you might want to judge it on your own. Check out video of that knee-to-knee below:

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Torts didn’t just snipe at the Penguins’ “whining” superstars, referring to Orpik’s check as a “cheap, dirty hit” while going back to the widely held point that there’s “no respect among players.” Zipay reports that Martin Biron was far from effusive about Orpik, as well.

So the natural question is: should Orpik be suspended? If so, for how long?

As Jason and Mike discussed on TV yesterday, the Penguins are already going into the highly probable Philadelphia Flyers series with some targets on their stars’ backs. (Tonight’s win assures that the Penguins will have the fourth seed.) If Pittsburgh meets the Rangers later on, they might as well just keep the bulls-eyes attached.

Here are highlights from the game:

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Check out this East update, including Pittsburgh clinching the fourth seed:

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144 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. psujay - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    Funny how every team involved in a Pittsburgh game is whining except one.

    Torts is spot on.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:37 AM

      It was intentional

      • jpelle82 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:43 AM

        if it was matt cooke you could have an argument for it being intentional. its orpik, one of the cleanest big hitters in the league. stepan moved at the last second (as anyone staring down the barrel of a loaded gun should) and orpik got him with his arms as much as he did with his knee. he didnt go out of his way to stick the leg out. doubt he will see any discipline.

      • odj810 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:49 AM

        orpik is not a dirty player but intentional or reaction its still a vicious leg check that deserves suspension. I don’t think he will get suspended though cause of who he plays for

      • 3pensteelers6 - Apr 6, 2012 at 11:58 AM

        As intentional as when Rupp did it to Staal?

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:23 PM

        Did sid move out of the big goofs basement yet ?

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:43 AM

      I wish Greg Williams was a coach in the NHL Malkin and Crosby would have a bounty on them !

      • upyoursnfu - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:27 AM

        You are whining about dirty hits but make comments like that. It just goes to show how much of a clown you are.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:33 AM

        Who said dirty hit fool you can be taken out real clean !

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:45 AM

        If Penquins fans have no problem with what orpik did,,,, cool ! Then when it happens tomorrow (like it did to Grossman last week too ) to one of the untouchables everything will be cool ! Right Pens fans ?

      • 3pensteelers6 - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:06 PM

        @ Eigglesnosuperbowls – – Oh you mean like how we lost Staal from that Rupp knee-on-knee hit? How soon we forget

      • babetruth - Apr 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM

        You wish Williams coached the Eagles “Dream Team” so at least someone inside the Linc had a Superbowl ring.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 5:01 PM

        babegoof Iam a NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS FAN !

    • napoleonblownapart6887 - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:48 AM

      Orpik hasn’t had a run in with NHL discipline since 2006, and has never been accused of being a dirty player. This isn’t the most egregious knee-to-knee I’ve seen but it wasn’t a graze either.

      Unfortunately there seems to be a knee-jerk reaction now to call every hit the Penguins make a dirty one, when in reality they aren’t as bad as they seem. People are talking about this like its the second coming of Chris Simon cross-checking a guy in the throat…

      Save the Erik Cole hit in 06, Orpik has always been a good clean player. Torts just wanted to blow off steam and that’s fine – but he needs to know when to shut up.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM

        The Penguins are the most arrogant organization in all of sports and it start upstairs with that big goof Mario !

      • napoleonblownapart6887 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

        What possible basis could you have for that?

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

        You can start with the big goof’s open criticism of the NHL without fear of any punishment ! Is that basis enough for ya !

      • napoleonblownapart6887 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:13 AM

        …. You mean the open letter he wrote chastising HIS OWN TEAM as well as the Islanders for what was essentially a bar brawl on skates? He said those things without fear of punishment because there was no reason for him to be punished – that’s like saying I drive under the speed limit without fear of punishment.

        So, no, that is not “basis enough for me”.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:13 AM

        Not to mention the statue of the big goof outside the center ! A statue is to immortalize the individual not bring down another or organization while doing it ,like including an Islander in in your statue !

      • napoleonblownapart6887 - Apr 9, 2012 at 10:09 AM

        The statue, is meant to be a metaphor for the trials and tribulations that Mario was able to overcome as a player (back problems, cancer) and as an owner (turning a bankrupt team around).

        None of the jerseys (including Mario’s) don’t have any markings on them because the designer didn’t want to make it look like it was a poke at the islanders, and to allow onlookers to see themselves in the statue (not a big art guy, but I read that from an article on the statue).

        You’re clearly just trying to troll, or you’re a moron if you think that statue was aimed at bringing down the Islanders (who aren’t even our rival) rather than celebrate Mario’s contributions to the team on and off the ice.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

      Bet the house that the two sissy la la’s will not dress tomorrow against the FLYERS , now thats gutless !

      • napoleonblownapart6887 - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM

        They’ll play. Malkin is looking for number 50, and the Kid generally likes to play against teams that call him out (the Senators for instance).

        My question is, if you don’t like them so much, why don’t you just stop them from scoring?

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

        Crosby might like to play against teams that call him out but but the Flyers want to Knock Him Out !

      • odj810 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM

        not really its intelligent. Flyers should sit down giroux and company to.

      • upyoursnfu - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:40 AM

        You are doing a ton of whining of this website. Are you a coach for the Rangers?

    • richie500 - Apr 6, 2012 at 11:03 AM

      Funny how no one remembers Mike Rupp’s hit on Jorden Staal this year that knocked Staal out for 6 weeks.
      Same kind of hit, but I guess it only matters when it happens to to the NY losers or the Phillthy Flyers.
      Never heard such cry babies in my life.
      There wasn’t any crying from the cheap hit, yea it was cheap, that knocked Crosby out for almost 18 months.
      Real professionalism boys!

      • upyoursnfu - Apr 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

        Or how about Hartnell biting Kris Letang? What kind of grown man bites another man?

      • phillyhatesyou - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM

        are you kidding all anybody heard out of pittsburgh when sid went down was crying.

    • phillyhatesyou - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM

      3 games 3 players all taken out by the penguins with knee to knee hits. yea the penguins arent a dirty team at all. pittsburgh clowns still in denial. first and last time i hope i ever say this but torts is 100% correct in everything he said. orpik definitely deserves a suspension that was a blatant knee to knee hit and its time to send a message to the penguins.

    • 3pensteelers6 - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:03 PM

      Whatever, NYR and Flyers, not exactly the class of the NHL. You heard no one here whining when Rupp took Staal out for 15 games with the exact same accidental hit.

    • clubdrunk18 - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:16 PM

      Tortorella is a hippocrite. Is he forgetting the cheap shot that Rupp put on Jordan Stall that cost him 3 weeks. I believe that was also knee on knee. The only person whining is Tortorella. Always complaining about someone or something. Have some class!

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:18 PM

      flyers in 5

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 4:33 PM

      someones elbow has sids big juicy lips with his name on it

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 6, 2012 at 4:59 PM

      babegoof Iam not an eiggles fan Iam a NY GIANTS FOOTBALL fan !

  2. bobhpine - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    Tortorella and Laviolette should go sit in a small room and cry it out together. Maybe form a support group for overrated whining douche bag coaches. They probably would enjoy smelling each other’s farts.

    • psujay - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:31 PM


    • ml3939 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM

      bobdouchepine has made it. It must be real tough coaching with Crosby, Malkin and MAF. I am sure other team wish they could have been bad enough to net 1st, 2nd and 1st overall picks in consecutive years.

      • psujay - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:52 AM

        They had the #2 pick the year after, only they used it on Jordan Staal instead of one of the talented players in that draft…like Toews, Backstrom, Kessel, Giroux…

  3. jond86 - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    No he should not be suspended. It really doesn’t look malicious at all. I think he is leaning to get his shoulder in..unfortunate circumstance.

    • kitshky - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:49 PM

      Ya I’m with you, any contact at slow motion implies intent but I wouldnt say that’s suspendable. Of course he was leaning towards him but that doesnt show intent to go knee on knee, it shows intent to make contact (with a player you’ve had clean contact without throughout the game) to a player thats shifted around you.

      Always a crappy hit though..

    • johninpa - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:11 PM

      I’m not even convinced it’s a direct knee to knee hit. It looks more like Orpik’s knee hits Stepan’s thigh., which I’m sure is painful, but initial contact is not the knee.

      • odj810 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:54 AM

        Its a leg check… knee on thigh makes it worse. You ever see someone break there femur that way? I’ve see it a few times in game, Your not making his case any better. It’s a split second reaction. No way it was intentional but come on its still a dirty hit. Most of these dirty hits are exactly that, split second decisions with no malicious intent. But intent or no intent its still a potential career ending injury

  4. psujay - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    Anyone else feel like every comment that points out a Pengoons deficiency is marked thumbs down by one guy with like 8 user names?

    • letangusespertplus - Apr 6, 2012 at 6:31 AM

      You’re obviously talking about me. Thanks for always thinking of me boo. But alas you are wrong. Again. I only had one other username that was banned as I’m sure the other soup can army soldiers did as well. I wish I could take credit for all their knowledge of who has a monster hog and who doesn’t. (apparently torts and lavy are jealous of the pens bulges in only half chub mode)

      • odj810 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:56 AM

        you got banned and just made another user name? So you got kicked out and tried to come back? talk about desperation, know when your unwanted man. Have some pride.

      • letangusespertplus - Apr 6, 2012 at 2:35 PM

        I only got banned cause the same people who are calling the Penguins whiners were whining to the staff of the site. It takes a minute to register a new name I guess I was only desperate for a minute?

  5. trbowman - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    Hahaha, love it Torts.

    Hope the Flyers bounce the Pens round one. Sidenote, already getting my popcorn ready for that series

    • nicolebatis - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:51 PM

      The drug addicts and low lifes of Filthadelphia (the entire population) have ZERO chance of beating the Pens. The Pens always give the regular season nod to the Flyers, only to BLOW THEM OUT in the playoffs. muahahaha cant wait to call everyone from Filthadelphia LOW CLASS BUMS that know nothing about hockey and remain WINLESS SINCE 1975.

      • trbowman - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:39 PM

        Believe me, I’ve got no love for Philly or the Flyers (especially now that they’ve ended the Sabres last two seasons) but I’ll cheer for them over the whiny crybabies in Penguin uniforms any day.

      • drewsylvania - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:38 AM

        Mmmm class-flavored.

      • napoleonblownapart6887 - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM

        See now this is the kind of stuff that as a Pens fan gets under my skin… You’re making the rest of us look bad. I’m confident in the Pens abilities to make a run at another cup this year, but the notion that we are going to blow out the Flyers is absurd. They are a very good team and it should be a hell of a series.

        Now, about all of this whining back and forth, I’ll just say this: Laviolette and Torts have done a TON of complaining about hits and this and that… what did Bylsma say when Letang got his head taken off by Pacioretty? What did he say when Ovie went up high on Niskanen? Even during the game when Letang got ripped by the Dallas player whose name escapes me? My point here is that some coaches realize that stuff happens and start looking at how they ‘re going to keep their teams running. Others decide to throw fits with the media….

      • mercyflush - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

        “The Pens always give the regular season nod to the Flyers, only to BLOW THEM OUT in the playoffs.”

        @ nicolebatis: Flyers have played the Pens in the playoffs 5 times. The Flyers record against them in playoff series is 3-2.

  6. steelhammer92 - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Orpik has been among the league’s top hitters for some time now. He’s not know for dirty, or even questionable hits. I can’t even think of the last time he made a dirty hit before tonight. With all those hits, you’re bound to have a couple where an elbow comes up, knee comes out, or you hit a guy at a bad angle into the boards. It was an unfortunate hit that deserved a penalty, but he was not trying to injure Stepan.

    • habsman - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:03 PM

      Eric Cole.

      • bmscalise - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:33 PM

        When you need to go back 6 years to come up with a controversial hit, I think you’ve made steelhammer’s point.

      • habsman - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:33 AM

        Sorry, I didn’t know we were using selective history.

      • amerika1313 - Apr 9, 2012 at 9:55 AM

        Really, Habsman? You do it all the time.

  7. bmscalise - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    If Stepan doesn’t try and dodge the hit, this doesn’t happen. To suggest otherwise is anti-Pen bs. Orpik is already lining up for the hit, and there’s only so much he can do. I can’t see in the video where his knee moves. And Orpik is as clean a big hitter as they come (the hit against Cole was about a million years ago, so it has long since ceased to be relevant).

    As opposed to a head shot or boarding, I’m more inclined to give the hitter the benefit of the doubt with respect to knee-on-knee hits. Unlike those other hits, you put yourself in danger as a hitter with a knee on knee: sometimes crap just happens, especially when both players were moving as fast as they were here.

    And lest we forget, Mike Rupp took out J. Staal for weeks with a knee-on-knee earlier this year. I think that hit was accidental, and you didn’t hear the Pens suggest otherwise, no ridiculous rants like Torts. This hit was just as accidental: a penalty, fine, but “dirty,” no.

    • crashtheboards55 - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:03 PM

      Ah yes. The evil empire of dirty. For all of you so-called informed hockey fans that think that was a dirty hit, watch the hit again. Stepan was gonna get drilled again for having his head down. He picks his head up and tries to avoid Orpik from less than a foot away. He and Orpik hit knee on knee. The same exact way that Rupp hit Staal. Staal had his head down and tried to avoid Rupp and their legs banged. Never heard Bylsma say a damn thing. Oh and one last point after Letang missed on the breakway after the end of the 5-on-3 watch the cross check to the head that Gaborik gives him. Don’t hear Tortarella talking about that. Probably missed that. In fact Prust and Dubinsky tried repeatedly to come up high on Malkin and Letang more than a few times tonight.

      • napoleonblownapart6887 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

        Completely agree. It’s an unfortunate contact but it wasn’t avoidable either – certainly don’t balem Stepan for trying to avoid the check, but there were two players involved with that hit…

        There are coaches that love to be in front of the camera and blow off steam and call out other players, and then there are ones that get back to work and get ready for the next game. Didn’t hear a peep out of Bylsma after Pacioretty took of Letangs head, or when Niskanen took one up high from Ovie.

    • phillyhatesyou - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:27 PM

      so stepan makes a move and its his fault he got hit knee to knee? dont care if orpik is a clean player or not he got beat and stuck his leg out. thats the third player in the last 3 games taken out with knee to knee hits. this deserves a suspension and the league needs to send a message to penguins. and i love how pens fans try to spin these hits into “well it was an accident”. thats BS this was definitely intentional.

  8. SDR - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    That hit was ATROCIOUS. For once, even though I’m a Flyers fan, I couldn’t agree more w/Torts. If someone laid out Crosby or Malkin or Letang like that there’d be NO END to the amount of whining, b*tching, & complaining that Bylsma & Co. would be engaged in. There would be calls for suspensions & tons of hand-wringing & teeth gnashing coming out of Pittsburgh.

    It never ceases to amaze me how much of a “golden boy” image the Pengoons have when they have some of the dirtiest, cheap shot artists in the entire NHL on their squad. Orpik is notorious for being sketchy.

    The Flyers aren’t comprised entirely of Angels, but the Pengoons are JUST as dirty.

    That was a SHADY hit & definitely deserves a suspension – 3 games sounds about right. Force him to miss the finale Saturday & the 1st 2 playoff games at home & he can come back for Game 3.

    • psujay - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:51 PM

      you forgot to mention the amount Mario would complain.

      • m1k3g - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:04 AM

        Morons like you prove how credible your opinions are when you make comments like this.

        Aside from the comments after the incident on the island last year, when was the last time your heard Mario say ANYTHING, let alone complain about something? When he made his ‘garage league’ comments 20 years ago? If anything, people say he doesn’t speak enough.

        This guy has done more for the NHL, the sport of hockey, and even the city of Pittsburgh than most people can imagine.

        Your greatest life achievement is not ending up a stain on the mattress in your momma’s motel room.

        Consider that when you talk about someone of Mario’s stature.

      • psujay - Apr 6, 2012 at 7:44 AM

        The only people who say Mario doesn’t speak enough live inside Pittsburgh.

        And insulting me and my mother? Classy. Showing your true colors.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:49 AM

        sandusky fan, what do you expect?

      • m1k3g - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:27 PM

        “The only people who say Mario doesn’t speak enough live inside Pittsburgh.”

        Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Tell that to the national sports media in Canada and the U.S. The interview he did with the NHL Network after his statue unveiling was the first national interview he did in like 5 years probably. Even after they won the Cup a few years ago, he stayed out of the spotlight.

        You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • bmscalise - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:52 PM

      Clearly, capitalizing words makes you REALLY REALLY BELIEVABLE.

    • psujay - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:52 PM

      you forgot to mention the amount Mario would complain.

      It doesn’t deserve three games. You can’t suspend him for the Playoffs. I know you’re a Flyers fan and would love to avoid Orpik in game 1, but let’s be serious. You can suspend him Saturday for the Wilkes-Barre/Adirondack game.

      • duece430 - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM

        Not sure why you think he cant be suspended for more than 1 game. The hit wasnt a clean hit, so he should be suspended. However, there is no telling what the Shanahan wheel of justice will land on.

      • psujay - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:58 AM

        playoff games are worth more than regular season games. Shanny already admitted as much. If they give him a 2 game suspension that’s like a 5 game suspension in December

    • nicolebatis - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:56 PM

      Your comment solidifies what everyone knows about these 2 clubs. Penguins= overload of talent with the classiest organization/ownership behind them with a long history of MVP’s, scoring championships and Stanley Cups. Philadelphia= known forever to the NHL as a long history of ownership stocking up on GOONS and coaches preaching GOON mentality. Maybe thats why they haven’t won since 1975.

      • drewsylvania - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:39 AM

        What are you, the Pens PR director?

    • kitshky - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:59 PM

      “Force once, even though I’m a Flyers fan” …what you’re going to put aside your almost clinical bias and hatred for the Pens to be taken serious? Come on dude.

    • crashtheboards55 - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:09 PM

      Do the same for Gaborik for intentionally cross checking Letang in the head from behind no less. Get real. As a Flyers fan having Hartnell on your team leaves you no room for comment about anyone being dirty. After Engelland planted Giroux on his ass a couple of weeks ago, Hartnell tried to step on Engelland and then ran directly into Fleury. I have friends who are Flyer fans who saw the same thing. Orpik wasn’t trying to injure him. It was an unfortunate hit.

    • tgeth27 - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:51 PM

      Letang was layout out twice this year once on an illegal and once semi clean

    • crosberger - Apr 6, 2012 at 4:12 AM

      SDR – you are full of crap. Sorry, but its true. I gave up a long time ago expecting people to give opinions based on an honest objective view, but to call that hit “ATROCIOUS” is pathetic. Even at its worst, it was a minor hit. Orpik is not known for cheap shots at all – which is why Habsman had to go back six years to find an example.

      No one likes it when their players get hit. People complain when it happens – Penguins, Flyers, Rangers. Fine. But don’t waste your time trying to act like any one team is worse than any other on the hits or the complaining. It’s not worth the effort.

      And no way will he be suspended for the playoffs.

    • benzoids - Apr 6, 2012 at 7:46 AM

      What’s with the random ALL CAPS WORDS? Were you educated in Philly?

      • psujay - Apr 6, 2012 at 11:02 AM

        Isn’t the Wharton School of Business in Philly?

  9. whiteqbs - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    The Penguins are the dirtiest team in the league and the biggest crybabies. Can’t wait til it happens to Crosby or Malkin to see how they like it

    • nicolebatis - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:59 PM

      it DID happen.. have you been living under a rock while Crosby was out nearly an entire calender year, and Malkin missed 3/4 of the previous season????

      • whiteqbs - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:05 PM

        Getting injured on legal hits doesn’t count, Crosby cant take a hit because he’s a woman.The penguins are gooning it up and nothing it being done about it.

      • kitshky - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:10 PM

        I love how even when a comment is just simply stating irrefutable facts …ya know history, someone who just doesnt want to hear it will thumb it down.

      • crashtheboards55 - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:35 PM

        What is Pronger’s excuse then? Hit he took was less than the two Crosby took. How about the hit Giroux took to the head for his concussion? You know absolutely nothing about concussions. I feel bad for Pronger, LaFontaine, Lindros, Primeau, Crosby, Sedin, Savard, Bergeron, Perron, Etc.

      • psujay - Apr 6, 2012 at 7:46 AM

        Pronger’s concussion is from almost losing an eye when he got hit with a stick on a legal play.

    • pens5829 - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:36 PM

      Can we get you a Kleenex? Maybe you’d prefer a Kotex?

      • benzoids - Apr 6, 2012 at 7:48 AM

        “Getting injured on legal hits doesn’t count, Crosby cant take a hit because he’s a woman.The penguins are gooning it up and nothing it being done about it.”

        I think you meant to say: nothing is being done about it.

        Just wanted to let you know that you made an error.
        Your username speaks volumes as to what you bring to the table ass well.

  10. mmmpierogi - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    Tororella’s just pissed because he looks like a nutria @ 1:23. He’ll get over it.

    • mmmpierogi - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:20 PM

      So … they switched out the original video, where the commentators were debating about whether they thought the hit even indicated an potential intent at all, for a shorter 56-second clip that jumps almost immediately to the commentator saying, “This is leg-on-leg…,” i.e., making it sound as if the commentators immediately went to the conclusion that Orpik might have had intent. Way to try and trump up the sensationalism (and, in doing so, nixing the Tortorella nutria shot).

    • winstongalt - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:52 PM

      Nah, Tortie is upset because he keeps getting mistaken for Fonzie.

  11. illadelphiasphinest - Apr 5, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    Can’t wait till the Flyers kick the crap out of these dirty crybabies from $hitsburgh n send Crysby home in a bag.

    • nicolebatis - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM

      Flyers don’t have a chance in HELL

    • pens5829 - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:49 PM

      Again. A Kleenex? Or Kotex?

  12. nicolebatis - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    Philadelphia has no chance. The Pens are just too good. They always get it done when it matters against the Flyers.

    • whiteqbs - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:08 PM

      Whats the over/under on Crosby flops or him crying to the refs? I’ll say an average of 7 per game

      • nicolebatis - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:14 PM

        I’d take the average on Crosby scoring 4-5 points and making fools out of any opposing team. NO hockey player is soft, you can’t be in order to play hockey. Yes, some players are tougher than others, yet you rarely see their names on scoring titles and Stanley Cups like Crosby. Many many jealous people around the league, yikes.

  13. njdevils44 - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:08 PM

    Didn’t know stepan was a superstar Hahahahahaha crying like babies fckin classic rupp did the same sht to stall clowns

  14. bcisleman - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    Bad hit deserved the major and probably a suspension length depending on Orpik’s history.

  15. chill1184 - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    Tortorella is a crybaby coach but this time he is right on target on this one. Since the Pens are the golden boy of the world wide leader of propaganda (ESPN) their thuggish acts won’t be covered. Does everyone remember the “panic” over concussions last season? Along with the talk that the NHL didn’t take them seriously? It was all because their precious little Crosby was out with one and nothing more. I’m pretty sure all NHL fans are looking forward to the brawl between the thugs (Flyers) and divas (Pens) since whoever comes out of it will be eaten alive by either the Bruins, Devils or Rangers.

    • bobhpine - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:22 AM

      Uhhh…ESPN doesn’t cover hockey at all

      • chill1184 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:49 AM

        You do realize that their is a difference between little and no coverage right? When compared to the NFL, College football/basketball, and baseball it’s very little and when it is covered it’s always about Crosby. The fact of matter is that the Pens are the coddled team by the media, every other fan base in the NHL knows this.

  16. bobhpine - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:26 PM

    Seriously, when did Flyers fans become such whiners. Wah wah the penguins are sooo dirty. “I can’t believe Crosby slashed giroux’s stick out of his hands. Joe vitale is a thug!”. Joe vitale? I really can’t believe my eyes. If Joe Vitale is a thug then the Eagles are six time super bowl champions.

    At the very least the Flyers could always claim they were tough even if they were perennial losers. Now it’s non-stop crying about regular infractions that have occured in every hockey game since the game was invented. Maybe the constant losing in the clutch has permanently warped their ability to make even the slightest bit of sense. As for tortorella, he has no excuse. That’s an unfortunate play, but hardly vicious or cheap. Plus, Orpik got 5 minutes and sent to the locker room, but tortorella still whined about the call.

    Jealousy is a pathetic emotion. But keep fearing all 5’11 195 of that goon Joe vitale and the known headhunter Brooks Orpik.

    • nicolebatis - Apr 5, 2012 at 11:43 PM

      100% truth

    • kellyb9 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:12 AM

      I guess we were just sick of hearing Pens fans whine incessantly and wanted to get in on the action.

  17. icelovinbrotha215 - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:24 AM

    Only in the NHL is one team, one player, favored over the rest of the league. This falls on Gary Bettman. Does anyone really think that the Pens are respected among their counter parts? How about Sidney or Malkin? Torts is exactly right. It’s pathetic and has been going on since Sidney has joined the NHL but the last couple of games have magnified the arrogance of the Pens and the NHL.

  18. bellivi - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    Mike Rupp put Jordan Staal out for 5 weeks back in January in the exact same way. Not only was Rupp not suspended, he received just a minor, while Orpik got a major and game misconduct. So you can kiss my ass, Torts.

  19. drewsylvania - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:41 AM

    Hate admitting that Torts is right, because every single look on his face can be interpreted to “sanctimonious asshat”.

  20. meeshka71 - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    My feeling here is that Torts should probably get straight to the business of preparing for the Caps in the first round ’cause its lookin’ that way. People yapping about the Pens leads me to believe only one thing; most of the yapping is from the 2 teams the Pens have beat fairly handily the last few playoffs-Flyers/Rangers in 5, 5 and 6 games each if memory serves. Doesn’t mean they can’t beat the Pens this year. I am sure they want to. Given that both of these teams have completely restructured their lineups over the last 2-3 years to compete with the Pens, I can only assume that all the hot air from Torts, Laviolette, et al, is to keep the pressure on their own teams, reminding them that you take your foot off the pedal your going to get burned. If memory serves again, I am fairly certain Marty Biron was in net with the Flyers for a series that was won by the Pens in 5. Interesting.

  21. penzfan329 - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:56 AM

    Hey the playoffs start soon everybody! All ive seen this week is philly and nyr whining 24/7 coaches and fans both all about the pens. Its just jealousy..

    • hartsy19 - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM


  22. stakex - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:44 AM

    First of all that hit should be AT LEAST two games. There are certainly situations in which a player might stick a knee out as an accidental reflex… but that did not seem to be the case here. Even in those cases in which its a clear accident, suspensions often follow anyway… so unless Shanahan loses his balls again, there should be a suspension here.

    Second, everything Torts said is 100% spot on. Last year the Pens were the team complaining all season about dirty play this, and dirty play that…. yet they had to be one of the most (if not the most) suspended and fined teams. Flash forward to this year, and its more of the same. Sure Pit hasn’t seen nearly as many suspensions this season (although certainly there should have been a couple that Shanahan balked on), but there has been no shortage of dirty play from them. Even Don Cherry, one of the biggest Crosby suck ups there is, has called Crosby out for his dirty play this season. Its the never ending story with the Pens… they whine to the refs, they whine to the media, yet they are the dirtiest team in the NHL by far.

    Funny thing is, you would think they wouldn’t want to give a team like the Flyers even more desire to target their star players. If I was Crosby, I would keep my head up next week…… otherwise he might lose it, and it would serve him and the Pens right.

    • penzfan329 - Apr 6, 2012 at 4:01 AM

      sounds like your doing most of the whining to me

    • iluvwikileaks - Apr 6, 2012 at 6:15 AM

      How does it feel to be an @$$hole, stakex?

    • elaradreamstar - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:02 PM

      Wow, do you ever check facts before you spout your mouth?

      Neither the team nor the organization received any fines for the 2010-11 season. Highest fine was $100k against the Islanders for their conduct on the Feb 12th game against the Penguins. Second highest was to the Kings GM at $50k for comments against Mike Murphy.

      Penguins had 31 games total, but ten of those were from Godard jumping on ice to the defense of his teammates during that game against the Islanders and was an automatic suspension for leaving the bench… I really think that shouldn’t count for this because most players would have done the same in that same situation and if you deny that you are lying to yourself. So you have Cooke’s 21 games (17 from that elbow to the head, 4 from the charge/board)

      Islanders had 27 games. (Martin twice, Gillies twice, and Wisniewski once, all well deserved).

      So, your basis on judging the entire team is the conduct of Matt Cooke? Who came a hair’s breadth from being fired and has made a total 180 of his career? Matt Cooke, whom 90% of hockey fans that I have spoken to (hockey fans, not Penguins fans… and ironically mostly Flyers’ fans) feel was made a scapegoat by the league for all of the headshot talk last season? Chara deserved that many games, Cooke didn’t.

      How about you pull your head out of your ass and don’t let your dislike of the team and your jealously that they have better players than your team get in the way of your logic? That is all that this is, jealousy. “Crosby whines to the refs all the time”… he’s the captain, it’s his JOB! The Flyers’ captain, the Rangers’, all of them talk to the refs during the game, contest calls and such things. It’s what a captain does.

      Haters are gonna hate, and there is nothing anyone can do about it, but at least find something factual and relevant to complain about before you open your mouth and prove yourself to be an idiot.

  23. iluvwikileaks - Apr 6, 2012 at 5:54 AM

    Hey, Tort. Hope you’re reading this @$$hole. The Pens whipped your behind. So, you whine. Just like the Flyboys (who haven’t won a Cup since Happy Days used a laugh track). Tort was a bum in Tampa. And, he’s still a loser.

  24. iluvwikileaks - Apr 6, 2012 at 6:13 AM

    It’s pure jealousy. I could see Torterellas eyes rolling in the corner of my screen every time Malkin walked around 4 guys in their defensive zone.

  25. bergeronforselke - Apr 6, 2012 at 6:17 AM

    The hit, while unfortunate, did not look malicious but merely incidental due the angle of the shoulder Orpik was trying to his Stefan with. My opinion.

  26. benzoids - Apr 6, 2012 at 7:43 AM

    Does Tortorella know who owns the Penguins? He can’t talk about them like that!

  27. wicky888 - Apr 6, 2012 at 7:51 AM

    Hate the Penguins, but not a suspension-worthy offense.While I do agree with Torts point, its hard to take him seriously, considering he’s the biggest f-ing whining baby ever

  28. tomahawk12 - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:14 AM

    The hit looked fine to me, no intent there. Tort doing the whining, just play the games. Seems to me everyone except the Penguins are doing all the whining, just look at this board for the last several weeks. Jealousy I guess?

  29. benzoids - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:24 AM

    I assume that Tortorella is referring to Malkin and Crosby when he says “superstars”. Malkin can barely speak the language, let alone be able to speak in a manner which would indicate whining. Get your facts straight John!

  30. kingjoe1 - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:29 AM

    This is not a surprise. Everyone is well aware that the Penguins are the dirtiest team in the league. I would not be suprised to see Gregg Williams giving speaches at the start of each game.

    • iluvwikileaks - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:13 AM

      I hope you are being sarcastic. Otherwise, you are nothing more than a big fat juicey prick.

      • kingjoe1 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:14 AM

        i am sure you have one of those in your mouth right now.

      • iluvwikileaks - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

        It is the one from your daddy.

  31. hartsy19 - Apr 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Every idiot on here claiming fans, coaches and players are “jealous” of the Pens is completely delusional.

    • iluvwikileaks - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:12 AM

      You sound jealous too, @$$hole:)

      • hartsy19 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:23 AM

        Haha you’re a joke.

      • iluvwikileaks - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM

        Suck it, punk.

      • hartsy19 - Apr 6, 2012 at 12:16 PM


  32. drunkbro - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    remember when sid skated into steckel or whoever the capital was? they were calling for a death sentence, when it was clearly incidental contact.
    this knee on knee contact looked like a missed hit, but i dont think they will suspend him. it looks like he recieved proper punishment in the game, but torts is right when it comes to preferential treatment, or atleast it sure seems to be that way

  33. martysbetter - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    So is the pens strategy in these last few games to injure their likely opponents in the first two rounds?

    • chill1184 - Apr 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM

      It worked for the Broad Street Bullies

      • psujay - Apr 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM

        Provide some evidence please.

  34. benzoids - Apr 6, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Did Tortorella chew Mike Rupp a new one after he hit Staal with a knee to knee? Just wondering….

  35. ndrdog - Apr 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    Hey the Flyers and Rangers can wine all they want now because in a few short weeks the Penguins will be the ones drinking the Champagne!

    • kingjoe1 - Apr 6, 2012 at 11:56 AM

      Since a few short weeks from now, only the first round will be complete, I imagine the champange is so the players can celebrate that they are another year closer from ever having to live in Pittsburgh again.
      Keep in mind it is only about a week away from the Flyers turning Crosby into a retired marshmellow head.

      • hatrick50 - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:33 PM

        So in other words….turn crosby into lindros or primeau?

      • kingjoe1 - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:36 PM

        exactly. He will be turning his pants for a skirt

      • hatrick50 - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:43 PM

        Like pronger or breier?

  36. blkeskimo1785 - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    The hit that Orpik put on Stepan is the same type of hit Kevin Porter put on David Booth earlier in the season, where Porter was clearly beat on the play, but put his knee out there anyway. He got 5 games for that, but I can’t see Orpik getting the same amount of games.

  37. pastabelly - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    Tortorella isn’t alone in his thoughts and Mike Milbury caught crap for letting it surface on NBC. Other teams are just sick of the arrogance and dirty play of the Penguins organization. They complain when someone touches one of their superstars and yet they employ cheap shot artists and the likes of Matt Cooke, who has no problem ending careers of stars on other teams (hello Marc Savard). If the Penguins want to play dirty, fine. They should just stop the whining and expect other teams to go after their dirty players like Crosby. I’d like nothing more than to see the Penguins play teams in the playoffs who don’t put up with their BS. It serves them right in drawing the Flyers in the first round and if they get by them, I’d love to see the Bruins get a shot at them.

  38. bobhpine - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Every time Crosby has played the flyers in the playoffs his team has won. I guess those flyer teams put up with his bs?

    Hartsy19 is so hot for Scott hartnell he has taken on his persona on message boards and even usednhis cute little nickname. You do realize the real Scott hartnell would ignore you, right?

  39. spydey629 - Apr 6, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    So let’s recap, shall we?

    In the past week, the Pens players & coaches have been called out by:

    1- The coach of their biggest rival who was upset because a 4th line center drilled one of his best players who was smart enough to skate with his head down and paid the price for it.

    2- An assistant coach from the same team, who was nothing BUT a goon in his playing days.

    3- A former NHL head coach and GM – now turned TV commentator – who is most famous for climbing over the glass at MSG to beat a man with his own shoe and just this fall was accused of beating up a 12-year old.

    4- The head coach of yet another division rival, who wears his emotions on his sleeve – or at least does it to play the media like a fiddle.

    All to criticize possibly the most cerebral (or smart for you Philly folks) head coach in the league, a star who has a gold medal and a Stanley Cup before the age of 25 – who has said himself he will never win a Lady Byng award, and yet one more star, who has a scoring title (with a second all but sewn up), a Cup, and a Conn Smythe.

    I have to laugh.

    Now, I am not sure what’s funnier, all of you fanboys for the teams mentioned above for falling right in line with all of this obvious pandering to the officials to get an extra call or two; the 14-year old Penguins fanboys for stooping to Philthadelphia’s level; or just the four people making the public comments for being complete jagoffs in general.

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