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	<title>Comments on: NHL GMs ponder the return of the red line</title>
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		<title>By: Buffalo Grumblings</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/09/nhl-gms-ponder-the-return-of-the-red-line/comment-page-1/#comment-44794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buffalo Grumblings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 20:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The great skating teams of the Canadiens in thet 70&#039;s had no problem with the redline.  It didn&#039;t slow down Guy LaFluer.  And they didn&#039;t wear helmets. And just start penalizing these guys that constantly head hunt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great skating teams of the Canadiens in thet 70&#8242;s had no problem with the redline.  It didn&#8217;t slow down Guy LaFluer.  And they didn&#8217;t wear helmets. And just start penalizing these guys that constantly head hunt.</p>
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		<title>By: drewsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drewsylvania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 18:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, let&#039;s make the game SLOWER.  #redlinefail]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, let&#8217;s make the game SLOWER.  #redlinefail</p>
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		<title>By: bcisleman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bcisleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure about the center red line or the trapezoid, but the no touch icing is a no-brainer. NHL should also go to international rules about headshots with an automatic ejection and suspension. Hasnt made the international game less interesting at all in my view.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure about the center red line or the trapezoid, but the no touch icing is a no-brainer. NHL should also go to international rules about headshots with an automatic ejection and suspension. Hasnt made the international game less interesting at all in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: BarberPoleBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BarberPoleBlog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who spends a lot of time in Junior Hockey rinks watching the OHL, I can tell you that I&#039;ve never, not once, had an instance where I saw a no-touch icing occur and wished that a race for the puck had been allowed in that instance.

In my experience, no-touch icing has no impact on the &quot;excitement level&quot; of a game. Touch-up icing should be done away with immediately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who spends a lot of time in Junior Hockey rinks watching the OHL, I can tell you that I&#8217;ve never, not once, had an instance where I saw a no-touch icing occur and wished that a race for the puck had been allowed in that instance.</p>
<p>In my experience, no-touch icing has no impact on the &#8220;excitement level&#8221; of a game. Touch-up icing should be done away with immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: islandersfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[islandersfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I completely agree with both of your suggestions - especially the no touch icing. There have simply been way to many bad injuries over the years from racing towards a puck nestled at the end boards ....

As for the red line, I understand the concept and the idea needs to be talked about but no, leave it as is in that regard. There were big hits and concussions back then as well just not the awareness of today to give it the publicity that we currently experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with both of your suggestions &#8211; especially the no touch icing. There have simply been way to many bad injuries over the years from racing towards a puck nestled at the end boards &#8230;.</p>
<p>As for the red line, I understand the concept and the idea needs to be talked about but no, leave it as is in that regard. There were big hits and concussions back then as well just not the awareness of today to give it the publicity that we currently experience.</p>
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		<title>By: chiadam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chiadam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The game will not be safer unless and until the players develop some sort respect for one another. Stop taking runs at other guy&#039;s heads. Stop low-bridging guys. Keep your elbows down when you hit (and, as a result, your stick on the ice). Then the game will be safer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The game will not be safer unless and until the players develop some sort respect for one another. Stop taking runs at other guy&#8217;s heads. Stop low-bridging guys. Keep your elbows down when you hit (and, as a result, your stick on the ice). Then the game will be safer.</p>
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		<title>By: mehetmet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mehetmet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 14:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no-touch icing is the way to go.  also yeah, get rid of the trapezoid.  why not let goalies give it away more because they think that they can play the puck like Brodeur.  it would result in more goals i think, half these goalies think they help they play but really ruin it and turn it over most of the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no-touch icing is the way to go.  also yeah, get rid of the trapezoid.  why not let goalies give it away more because they think that they can play the puck like Brodeur.  it would result in more goals i think, half these goalies think they help they play but really ruin it and turn it over most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: pavelfitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pavelfitzgerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 14:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t agree more with you on the icing rule. Don Cherry has been saying it for years too (one of the only reasonable things he says). Bringing bal the red line means the trap will become even worse - awful idea. I like the one commenters idea of no blue lines better then bringing back the red line but even that is a bit extremem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more with you on the icing rule. Don Cherry has been saying it for years too (one of the only reasonable things he says). Bringing bal the red line means the trap will become even worse &#8211; awful idea. I like the one commenters idea of no blue lines better then bringing back the red line but even that is a bit extremem.</p>
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		<title>By: j0ey15</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j0ey15]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do NOT bring back the red line and no way with the &quot;no touch icing&quot; what are we playing in house hockey? leave the game as is]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do NOT bring back the red line and no way with the &#8220;no touch icing&#8221; what are we playing in house hockey? leave the game as is</p>
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		<title>By: gsr1191</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gsr1191]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[please dont bring back the redline. I really don&#039;t want to go back to the world of trap hockey and and avg score of 2-1!!

I think the trapezoid should be removed (even though i&#039;m a pens fan and Fleurys biggest weakness is playing the puck). Both that and the no touch icing would help with injuries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please dont bring back the redline. I really don&#8217;t want to go back to the world of trap hockey and and avg score of 2-1!!</p>
<p>I think the trapezoid should be removed (even though i&#8217;m a pens fan and Fleurys biggest weakness is playing the puck). Both that and the no touch icing would help with injuries.</p>
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		<title>By: fishtales10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fishtales10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No touch icing and removing the trapezoid  would curb injuries to defensemen for sure without lose to gameplay excitement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No touch icing and removing the trapezoid  would curb injuries to defensemen for sure without lose to gameplay excitement.</p>
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		<title>By: zachg10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zachg10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I completely agree on Hybrid Icing. As a CAPS fan I find myself both cheering and cringing every time a speedster like Chimera pushes it trying to beat a defender out. Bringing back the redline may or may not help with player safety but it will alienate the new crop of fans that found the game after the strike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree on Hybrid Icing. As a CAPS fan I find myself both cheering and cringing every time a speedster like Chimera pushes it trying to beat a defender out. Bringing back the redline may or may not help with player safety but it will alienate the new crop of fans that found the game after the strike.</p>
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		<title>By: rainyday56</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rainyday56]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the next CBA:
Negotiate a player safety program including an  annual training and certification program for player.
Install a lifetime ban for players that are irreconcilable repeat offenders.
Simplify the cap structure so  they can lay off a bunch of bean counters and replace them with player safety officials (travelling,impartial,one for each game.)

Start changing the business, not the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the next CBA:<br />
Negotiate a player safety program including an  annual training and certification program for player.<br />
Install a lifetime ban for players that are irreconcilable repeat offenders.<br />
Simplify the cap structure so  they can lay off a bunch of bean counters and replace them with player safety officials (travelling,impartial,one for each game.)</p>
<p>Start changing the business, not the game.</p>
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		<title>By: billsin20xx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[billsin20xx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 12:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s an idea from Bucky Gleason of the Buffalo news -
My suggestion since 2005: Keep the red line and dump both blue lines — the offside line then would be the red line — until the puck enters the offensive zone.

You can&#039;t have a neutral-zone trap without a neutral zone. Once the puck enters the offensive zone, the blue line comes back into play. Teams still would be forced to set up more often. Long passes would still be encouraged, but they would be shorter than the ones today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an idea from Bucky Gleason of the Buffalo news -<br />
My suggestion since 2005: Keep the red line and dump both blue lines — the offside line then would be the red line — until the puck enters the offensive zone.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t have a neutral-zone trap without a neutral zone. Once the puck enters the offensive zone, the blue line comes back into play. Teams still would be forced to set up more often. Long passes would still be encouraged, but they would be shorter than the ones today.</p>
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		<title>By: predswilrule</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[predswilrule]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 12:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the game doesnt need changing. change the rules and punishment for hits to the head and running a player from behind into the boards. clearly, they havent gotten a message yet because a serious one hasnt been sent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the game doesnt need changing. change the rules and punishment for hits to the head and running a player from behind into the boards. clearly, they havent gotten a message yet because a serious one hasnt been sent.</p>
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		<title>By: Stiller43</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stiller43]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 12:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both of yours are way better than adding in the red line again. Yuck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of yours are way better than adding in the red line again. Yuck.</p>
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