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Yzerman gave Colorado GM a glimpse into his master plan

Feb 22, 2012, 12:00 PM EDT

Pretty interesting bit of intel here from Sportsnet’s John Shannon on the three-team deal orchestrated by Tampa Bay Lightning GM Steve Yzerman:

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(DRW = Detroit Red Wings)

The deal — in case you missed it yesterday — was the result of Yzerman’s slick wheeling and dealing. He first flipped forward Steve Downie to Colorado in exchange for Kyle Quincey, then turned around and sent Quincey to Detroit for the Wings’ first-round pick in 2012 and AHL defenseman Sebastien Piche.

Unsurprisingly, Colorado GM Greg Sherman received some heat over the deal. Given his sketchy trading history (see: Semyon Varlamov, Erik Johnson/Jay McClement) and the perception he might’ve been Yzerman’s patsy in this deal, there was great consternation the Sherminator had botched another one.

Greg Wyshynski, Puck Daddy:

GM Greg Sherman wasn’t going to get a first-round pick from Detroit for him. He only knows how to trade them away in incredibly lopsided and ill-conceived deals, not the other way around.

So once more, with feeling: STOP LETTING GREG SHERMAN MAKE TRADES.

But here’s where things get a little more interesting: Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun reports Detroit made the first offer at Sherman for Quincey, and Sherman turned them down. So, if I’m piecing this together correctly:

– Detroit makes Colorado an offer for Quincey, Colorado turns it down.

– Tampa Bay makes Colorado an offer for Quincey, Colorado accepts it and is informed Quincey will be flipped to a Western Conference team.

– The Western Conference team that originally inquired about Quincey (Detroit) also happens to be the team Yzerman has intimate ties to (Detroit).

At some point, Sherman had to see the writing on the wall…right? Right?

There’s also this, from USA Today’s Kevin Allen:

Holland originally had talked to Colorado general manager Greg Sherman about acquiring Quincey, who started his career in Detroit.

“I didn’t like any of the names he brought up, and he didn’t like any of the names I brought up, and that’s where it ended,” Holland said. “Then a couple of days ago, (Tampa Bay general manager) Steve Yzerman called and said I might get Quincey. Are you interested?”

Why do I have the feeling Sherman was Omar Minaya to Yzerman’s Billy Beane in this whole thing?

  1. solador78 - Feb 22, 2012 at 12:21 PM

    Sounds like a conflict of interest. Must be nice for the Red Wings to have former players running other teams.

    • elvispocomo - Feb 22, 2012 at 12:43 PM

      Detroit wanted to keep roster players. Colorado wanted roster players back. Tampa was willing to give up roster players, but wanted draft picks back. Tampa becomes the middle man, all three get what they want.

      I can see Tampa getting ready to offer sheet a goalie this summer, but not wanting to lose all their picks in the early rounds. Price, Rask, Schneider, Pavlec, Lindback and others are RFAs this summer if they don’t get new contracts done, so Tampa could offer sheet the best of th bunch but still have plenty of picks they got from other teams.

      • solador78 - Feb 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM

        There’s no way Yzerman makes a faux pas by submitting an offer sheet. He’s been around the league long enough to know that it’s not the proper way to do business.

        I’m just amazed that Yzerman got a 1st round pick for essentially for Downie after Detroit wouldn’t give it to Colorado for Quincey.

    • SharkCircle - Feb 22, 2012 at 5:07 PM

      Or former teammates and friends recruiting players. Apparently Rick Nash may want to come to the Sharks because he played with Thornton in Europe during the lockout and they had “good chemistry” according to some. Yeah, I would imagine two NHL All Stars would do okay in a european league, lol.

      Likewise, Mike Richards talks to Jeff Carter all the time. Guess who else he probably talks to? His GM, Dean Lombardi.

      Logan Couture, coming off a calder contender season where he lead the Sharks in goals, the Sharks who have a bevy of 7M dollar players, re-signed early in the season for around 2M per year for the next two years, a gross underpayment.

      And who negotiated his deal for him? John Thornton, brother of the Sharks captain Joe Thornton. Joe Thornton who already got his money from Doug Wilson, and whose Cup hopes greatly benefit from teammates like Couture taking far below market contracts.

      This kind of stuff is going on everywhere now. I think its worse in the NBA, but its getting there in the NHL. Didnt used to be as bad, but now its everywhere. No such thing as a fair sport anymore it seems.

      • SharkCircle - Feb 22, 2012 at 5:07 PM

        where he led.

      • solador78 - Feb 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

        Yeah, it won’t be long before Rick Nash “takes his talents” to Silicone Valley.

  2. davebabychreturns - Feb 22, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    Seems more like Yzerman is the patsy in this scenario.

    • solador78 - Feb 22, 2012 at 12:43 PM

      Yzerman got the 1st round pick that Detroit wouldn’t give to Colorado.

      • elvispocomo - Feb 22, 2012 at 12:48 PM

        We don’t know if that’s what Colorado wanted. At some point they need to get competitive in the NHL, not just stockpile prospects, and they showed they were willing to do that in the Varlamov deal.

      • davebabychreturns - Feb 22, 2012 at 1:01 PM

        He gave up something he had a surplus of (top nine forwards) for something his team desperately lacks (talented, mobile defensemen) and then turned around and traded that for a pick that won’t help his team for years.

        Doesn’t matter that Detroit might’ve given Tampa more than they gave Colorado, Tampa gave away something it absolutely shouldn’t have.

  3. lsxphotog - Feb 22, 2012 at 1:41 PM

    This opens up some big options for Tampa. They can now realistically grab another superstar at D *cough*Weber*cough* or a forward in addition to a superstar goaltender. So he dumps 3 players and could potentially get two superstars out of the deal and still have a bunch of picks if he doesn’t have to deal too many away for a skater.

    Yzerman has something planned…I can’t wait to see it.

  4. govtminion - Feb 22, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    Mind blowing stupidity by Sherman. I didn’t think he could get dumber than the Varlamov trade… and then he doesn’t see THIS coming? That Yzerman- who has friendly ties with the Red Wings, as we all know- might flip the guy right back to the Wings, who JUST ASKED for Quincey?

    How does Sherman have a job? Seriously, can anyone give me a reason?

    • emperorzero - Feb 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM

      Well he….and then there was that one time when….of the course the trade that…hmmmm….

  5. emperorzero - Feb 22, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Sherman is a patsy (to be nice). Steve Downie is a nice player, but he’s not worth a late-first round pick. Especially after giving up their own pick in the Varlamov deal, getting a first rounder would have been a good idea.

  6. cmutimmah - Feb 23, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    As a Wings fan, we could have used Downie… but i think they are looking for a cheaper option as their big forward they are going to get at the deadline (don’t listen to Holland, they’ll sign one at the deadline…)

    Downie is like a slightly more talented Shaun Avery….

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