Comments on: Kesler avoids revenge angle regarding Kronwall

By: chibimike

chibimike — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 04:20:51 +0000

So rule 42.1 reads, Charging is:
1) skating into another player – no, this is called checking
2) jumping into another player – don’t know what this is
3) charging – hmmm, charging is defined as charging, circular logic

Charging is checking, jumping or charging? It makes no sense the way you try to define it.

Also note, look at Kronwalls twenty or so huge hits like this one. Not once was he called with charging. Do you think all the referees (and the league for that matter) don’t know the rule, or is it possible your reading of the rule is wrong?

By: elvispocomo

elvispocomo — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:09:29 +0000

That sums it up pretty well. Neither was innocent, and hits [sic] happen.

By: elvispocomo

elvispocomo — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:00:35 +0000

The rule doesn’t say, “who skates or jumps into, *more commonly referred to as charging* an opponent in any manner.” It gives three criteria that fall under the charging rule, and then goes on to explain what the third criteria (which is charging) actually means. Just because they named the rule 42.1 Charging doesn’t mean it’s only inclusive of what’s in the second paragraph.

If if they only defined charging as what is in the second part, why would they even both referencing “skates or jumps into” in the first part? You could be deemed having charged a player by only having traveled a short distance but accelerated the whole way into the player and then jumped at him. It doesn’t mean you have to cross from one side of the ice to the other for it to be a penalty.

Distance traveled can be mitigated by both players skating towards each other, but doesn’t completely rule it out, but neither is it only if one player is stationary. A player could be skating perpendicular to another or away and if the hitter has to make considerable effort to get to him and make the hit, then charging is possible.

Granted, if players are standing side by side and one jumps into the other, it’s not likely going to be a charging penalty, but Kronwall comes from almost the faceoff dot outside the zone and makes three crossover strides to gather speed to make the hit. On it’s own, not really charging, but when you add the jump in there on top of him having to skate towards Kesler to make the hit, it’s easy to see why the call would have been made.

By: yettyskills

yettyskills — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:18:29 +0000

Keep your head up Kesler
And stop jumping Kronwall

By: chibimike

chibimike — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:29:22 +0000

Wasn’t a dirty hit, so his teammates did the right thing. Kesler was hilarious with his pouting, “If you’re going to hit people, you better be prepared to fight, wahhhh.”

By: chibimike

chibimike — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:26:55 +0000

The second part of the definition defines when “charging” applies. Notice the second part starts “Charging shall mean…”. So, if a player skates at a stationary player and leaves his feet to hit him, it is charging.

By: mgp1219

mgp1219 — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:14:23 +0000

how about “or jumps into” in the first line of the ruling?

By: mgp1219

mgp1219 — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:11:34 +0000

typical Cannots…they do nothing in defense of a teammate who was destroyed by a dirty hit. Kessler had to get up and try to take care of business himself. shameful.

By: chibimike

chibimike — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:55:41 +0000

Leaving your feet is not a penalty according to the NHL rules, it is just stupid announcers that don't know the rules that lead you to believe it is. 42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates or jumps into, or charges an opponent in any manner. Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice. Notice the bolded line in the definition of charging: as a result of distance traveled. It is defines charging as one player more or less stationary, the other moving. If both players are moving toward each other, it is by definition not charging. This is why Kronwall never ever gets charging calls, because the referees know the definition. It is just the dopy announcers and analysts who don't know the rule.

By: bensawesomeness

bensawesomeness — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:25:14 +0000

I’m a Wings fan, so i’m a tiny bit biased on occasion – putting it out there now

There are alot of hits that Kronwall makes that are big hits that are relatively clean – this one should have gotten a penalty

By: ruddigervancity

ruddigervancity — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:38:49 +0000

Kesler absolutely has to keep his head up there, but how was that not a penalty on Kronwall? His skates are six inches off the ice before he even makes contact with Kesler… I’d have had no problem with the play if he didn’t leave his feet.

By: hockinj25

hockinj25 — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:18:14 +0000

Keep your head up and you won’t get hit. Also, nobody Kronwalls besides Kronwall