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Talbot livid over headshot: “I felt it was a pretty dangerous hit”

Jan 13, 2012, 9:30 AM EDT

Max Talbot Philly getty

Philadelphia center Max Talbot is none too pleased with the headshot he received from Islanders defenseman Steve Staios during a 3-2 Flyers win Thursday night.

Here’s the hit in question:

Staios didn’t receive a penalty on the play and Talbot did return to the game, ending up on the ice for Sean Couturier‘s game-winning goal. But that didn’t keep him from expressing displeasure with the hit in a postgame scrum.

“I had zero idea,” Talbot told CSN Philadelphia. “I think that’s what we’re trying to stop in the NHL … shots like that, head shots. I had no time to react and I felt the point of contact was my head. I didn’t see the replay, but from what I felt it was a pretty dangerous hit.”

The hit also displeased Talbot’s coach, Peter Laviolette.

“I saw it happen live, I haven’t seen it on videotape,” he said. “When I saw it live, I didn’t like it.”

According to CSN’s Sarah Baicker, Staios was not made available to the Philadelphia reporters after the game and didn’t address the hit with the New York media.

  1. bcisleman - Jan 13, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Video clip here is not good as you do not get a close up of the hit and Philly announcers are telling you its a bad hit. I was at the game and saw it again later on NHL on the Fly. Looked like a shoulder hit directed toward the body that might have caught Talbot’s head. Given all the cheap shots he’s directed at Islanders over the years, this is deserved karma. The NHL probably should go the route of major penalties and ejections for any hit to the head, but we are not there yet.

    • emoser - Jan 13, 2012 at 10:35 AM

      His shoulder is irrelevant. He went for Talbot’s head with his elbow/forearm. Pause the video at :54 and tell me what you see. I wouldn’t call it egregious, but it was definitely a headshot.

      • bcisleman - Jan 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM

        I have looked at this clip and I cannot really tell anything from it as there is no closeup. From what I saw in live action, in the replay at the game, and on NHL on the Fly, he led with his shoulder, not his elbow and the hit was directed at the body, not the head. Contact to the head was secondary and that was why it wasn’t called. We should ban all headshots regardless, but the NHL has not made that ruling yet.

      • hystoracle - Jan 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM

        Kind of impossible to ban every hit to the head. There is going to be incidental contact to the head on hits. The deliberate blows to the head is what needs to be stopped. the only way to completely eliminate hits to the head is to eliminate hitting. And I don’t think we want that. Would be a women’s league. And watching them in the Olympics, I get the vibe they even want to be able to hit.

      • bggio - Jan 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM

        Lets be honest if you have ever played hockey there is never a pause on the ice at :54 seconds.
        He saw an opening with the puck coming on the boards and pinched in for the hit, he hit him clean and legal the follow through with the arms going up is why you guys think it may be questionable (except the refs on the ice that did not call a penalty) see slow motion paused video instead of a clean hockey hit.

    • kellyb9 - Jan 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM

      The issue isn’t the shoulder.. it’s his elbow. Take off your orange and blue colored sunglasses every once and a while.

      • bcisleman - Jan 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM

        He led with the shoulder, so it is the issue. And I guess the refs must be Islander fans as well, huh? Wouldn’t know it given that they failed to call a blatant slash to the face made on Andrew MacDonald and, shortly thereafter, clalled a trip on Nabby on what was a rather obvious dive by the Flyer player. This led to the first goal.

      • trigzter - Jan 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM

        no one said anything about refs dude. put down the pipe. and nabokov stuck his glove out to intentionally hit carle in the leg. clear as daylight.

  2. fantasyhockeyguru - Jan 13, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    First off..I Feel like saying he is “Livid” yet using a quote of him saying “I felt it was a pretty dangerous hit” Doesnt make him come off livid. It makes sim sound upset or annoyed and very reasonable, just trying to stir the pot I guess.

    Second, I was watching this game live and at first thought it could be questionable (I’m an Isles fan), but SNY quickly used close ups on their replay and Staios seemed to make initial contact with his shoulder to Talbot’s chest and may have clipped part of his chin. I think any instance of him being dazed and stunned is because his body was struck with such force, you see his head snap back very hard and fast. I don’t see anything wrong with this, and as the OP said, he has a cheap shot history with us, so much deserved (even though I actually like Talbot, esp after HBO 24/7)

  3. creaturesofsepta - Jan 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    I’m pretty sure there is no penalty for “hitting and being taller”

    • bcisleman - Jan 13, 2012 at 11:49 AM

      See Sutton, Andy.

    • somekat - Jan 13, 2012 at 11:54 AM

      I’m pretty sure tall guys get elbowing penalties all the time, that only happen because they are tall guys. Do you even watch hockey?

      Doesn’t matter what he “lead” with. He clearly went at his head with his elbow. The refs didn’t call it because none saw it. You could see the ref telling Lavy “Nobody saw it”. They can’t call something they didn’t see. Normally I would say it’s not possible to not see a play that happened where the puck was, but where the officials were positioned when the hit happened, there actually were none that had a decent view of where the contact was. 3/4 would of seen the back of one of the players, and the 4th would of had to see through about 6 guys.

      No penalty does not mean there will not be a suspension (there will).

      • hystoracle - Jan 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM

        You can’t see much in the video provided. Can’t tell what hit what. I can see he checked him solidly but that’s it. I see the arms come out following the hit but the video provided isn’t good enough to see anything else. Need a better replay. Can convict with this video evidence. Looks incidental.
        I think Talbot suddenly hitting a brick wall and coming to a complete stop did most of the damage. Don’t actually have to be hit in the head to get a concussion or trauma to the brain. Definitely a jarring hit.

  4. hsnepts - Jan 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    I wonder if Ron McLean can tell us what Talbot is saying while he’s down on the ice?

  5. me6661973 - Jan 15, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    Clear hit needs be stop. Why star players are out now! But lot of these hits are coming from pads that need be sorften up!

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