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Speculation: Luke Schenn to Philly?

Jan 11, 2012, 12:30 PM EDT

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Could the Flyers and Leafs be talking trade?

The Philadelphia Daily News reports that “Flyers director of player development Don Luce was spotted for the third time in as many weeks at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto for the Maple Leafs’ contest against Buffalo.”

The reporter, Frank Seravalli, admits this could be much ado about nothing, but notes that Luce “spent a lot of time in Toronto” before the Leafs traded Kris Versteeg to Philly on Feb. 14.

Seravilli also notes that the two teams’ general managers, Brian Burke and Paul Holmgren, are “close friends.” So presumably they speak often.

Leafs defenseman Luke Schenn (and older brother of Philadelphia forward Brayden Schenn) is named as a potential target of the Flyers, who will likely try to address the absence of Chris Pronger (concussion) prior to the trade deadline on Feb. 27.

Expect to hear Luke Schenn’s name a lot in trade speculation. (We already floated a Schenn-to-Anaheim deal). Once considered untouchable in Toronto, the stay-at-home blueliner has seen his ice time decline dramatically this season. The Leafs are one of the few teams in the NHL that can boast an abundance of defensemen.

  1. icelovinbrotha215 - Jan 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    Hmmm. Me likey. He brings a much needed grit to the Flyers back end. And boy, does he love to hit. Idk who the Leafs would want in return. I elect JVR. I don’t see that happening though.

    • zach28 - Jan 11, 2012 at 1:13 PM

      would you do JVR and 1st for Schenn or do you think thats overboard with it?

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jan 11, 2012 at 1:20 PM

        Leafs need a first-line centre, not another winger. Maybe we should be talking a Schenn-for-Shcenn swap.

      • icelovinbrotha215 - Jan 11, 2012 at 4:23 PM

        Nah. I think Older Schenn for JVR straight is fair enough.

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jan 11, 2012 at 4:31 PM

        Yes, except getting a winger doesn’t help the Leafs. Their most pressing need is a #1 centre. I’ve gotta believe if Schenn is involved in any trade then Getzlaf will be too. As far as I can tell the Leafs are not desperate to ship Schenn out, so why not hold on to him until the right trade materializes?

      • odj810 - Jan 12, 2012 at 1:10 PM

        i think thats insanely overboard. jvr for shchenn would be a good trade. i think jvr is better thanschenn

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jan 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM

        Schenn for JVR is a good trade for Philly because it fits their needs. The same can’t be said from the Leafs side. No centreman, no deal.

  2. zach28 - Jan 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    JVR for Schenn straight up could make a lot of sense. both signed new deals both young and not having the best seasons. i would be weary of doing it but it could work out very well for each team. at the end of the day i would do it probably.

    • hoof - Jan 11, 2012 at 4:13 PM

      Flyers cannot get rid of another long term contract. They can’t pollute their reputation like that or no player is going to be willing to sign another LTC in Philadelphia.

      If they are targeting Schenn, I would start with Erik Gustafsson + a 1st rounder. Burke might be willing deal Schenn, who isn’t progressing as they thought he would.

      I hope the Flyers are targeting Cody Franson personally. He can be had much cheaper and while Schenns ceiling is higher the difference now between the two players isn’t much. I think he can really benefit from playing with guys like Kimmo, Mesz, Coburn and Carle. Could be a real steal

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jan 11, 2012 at 4:39 PM

        Franson has been getting better and better since the start of the year. Burke would have to be blown away to deal a guy who has been fitting in real nicely on the Leafs blue line.

      • icelovinbrotha215 - Jan 11, 2012 at 6:51 PM

        I agree with @1943mrmojorisin1971, Franson has looked good. I would much rather have Schenn. He is a two-way D (more defensive in my opinion) who plays with a mean streak. None of the Flyers’ current D consistently do that. Schenn has the potential to be household name, along with his baby brother, for years to come in the Black and Orange. I’d like to see him here.

  3. skimmer0220 - Jan 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM

    I just don’t see the Flyers getting rid of JVR he’s been injured for the beginning of the season and has finally started showing glimpses of what we saw last year in the playoffs, Schenn would be a great D man to pick up I just don’t see who there gonna get rid of for him

  4. haterzgonahate - Jan 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    JVR was a beast in the playoffs… the Flyers would be fools to deal him. on that note.. yes please!

  5. psujay - Jan 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    We’ll take Couturier!

    • psujay - Jan 11, 2012 at 2:19 PM

      Make that Cooter and Read. JK, We’d never get that much for Schenn…

  6. cmutimmah - Jan 11, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    I see something like Matt Read before I see them moving JVR… At least when considering Toronto’s needs.

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Jan 11, 2012 at 4:25 PM

      You are probably right. I just loath JVR. Just like I do with Casey “WannaBe” Matthews and Iggy.

  7. tmjm621 - Jan 11, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Nooo….jvr? Id be shocked. I think theyd give burke some prospects and a DP. maybe kevin marshall anndddd eric wellwood or something and a 2nd. (just an example, but i dont think holmgren will get anything too big for luke

  8. tmjm621 - Jan 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    Give anything big**

  9. govtminion - Jan 11, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    “Buyer beware when it comes to Toronto defensemen available for trade… trust me.”

    +Peter Chiarelli, Bruins GM+

    (ok, he didn’t say that, but he has to be thinking it.)

  10. bowens3181 - Jan 12, 2012 at 12:38 AM

    Anybody suggesting the Flyers will trade JVR or Couturier for Luke Schenn are insane. As of right now the Flyers top 9 are set for the foreseeable future and they are not going to sacrifice that for a defensemen that would be no better then a 2nd pairing guy on their team. If the Flyers really want Schenn, I could see them giving up picks and a prospect maybe, but they are not going to give up any asset that can help them in a playoff run for Luke Schenn. Especially since Burke always demands ridiculously unfair returns for his player (to his credit, idiot GMs often succumb to his insane demands), and so I would much rather the Flyers go after Suter/Weber from Nashville for what would probably be not that much more then Burke would want for Schenn.

    • cshearing - Jan 12, 2012 at 8:57 AM

      If that’s all that is being given up, the trade never happens. Burke is no longer in rebuilding mode; he wants to win now. If Schenn gets traded, Burke gets back a 1st or 2nd line NHL starting center. Or Schenn stays put.

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Jan 12, 2012 at 4:37 PM

      If the Flyers go after Suter/Weber, they will have to give up more. Not to mention the cap hit. Trading JVR would no be insane. He has all the signs of being a left-hand Jeff Carter. We know how much Toronto wanted Jeff Carter too. I know they want a center in return so I know JVR isn’t going anywhere.

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