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Is Toronto angling for Ryan Getzlaf?

Jan 5, 2012, 5:07 PM EDT

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Roughly 5.6 seconds after Anaheim Ducks GM Bob Murray said the only untouchables on his roster are Teemu Selanne and Saku Koivu, the hockey world was abuzz with trade speculation. Some of the scuttlebutt was interesting; some idiotic. But one potential deal has received a lot of attention: Toronto acquiring the services of Ryan Getzlaf.

It’s something the Toronto Star’s Damien Cox wrote about today, based on the following logic:

– Leafs GM Brian Burke knows Getzlaf well from Anaheim’s 2007 Stanley Cup championship.

– Burke has a history of making big deals prior to the trade deadline. Most notably, the Dion Phaneuf trade of Jan. 2010.

– Burke and Murray have orchestrated a number of deals together. There was the Francois Beauchemin-for-Joffrey Lupul and Jake Gardiner trade, J.S. Giguere-for-Jason Blake and Vesa Toskala trade and, most recently, the Luca Caputi-for-Nicolas Deschamps trade.

– “Getzlaf would certainly also fit the pattern of players who appeared to run out of steam in other cities coming to Toronto and finding the atmosphere reinvigorating,” Cox writes. “It worked for Phil Kessel, Phaneuf and Joffrey Lupul, all of whom may be in the NHL all-star game later this month.”

There were other eyebrow-raising notes as well, like Burke’s recent dumping of salary (putting Phillipe Dupuis and Colton Orr in the minors) and the young assets Toronto has to offer in Luke Schenn, Nazem Kadri and Joe Colborne.

It’s all whispers and scuttlebutt right now, but could a deal eventually be in the works? Murray’s at the end of his rope with the disappointing Ducks and lit into his players after last night’s 3-1 loss to San Jose. Desperate times call for desperate measures…though Murray would have to be really desperate to ship out Getzlaf.

  1. zach28 - Jan 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    getzlaf, 2nd for grabovski, colborne, 1st and 3rd. thoughts?? think that’d work?

    • onearmdragon - Jan 5, 2012 at 7:38 PM

      I see Getzlaf as worth a fortune, it might be a down year but he’s still a 26 year old stud first line center with a ring and 4 point a game seasons.

      Although if he can I think Burke does this, no matter the cost.

  2. onearmdragon - Jan 5, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    Generally I like Damien’s reporting, especially for a newsprint Toronto guy. But if Kessel was out of steam with a 36 goal, 24 assist season in Boston before joining the Leafs, I’d love to know what Cox thinks is full boil.

    So Kessel was 2 first rounders and a 2nd rounder. What would Getzlaf be worth as he has already won a Cup, is a top line center who setup a 50 goal scorer last year and has been a point per game player for 4 years? I’d say Schenn, Kadri, Colborne and picks, as only Schenn has proven himself and at this point in any way, and Kadri has been a disappointment as the 7th overall pick, although 2009 was an underwhelming draft.

  3. whittle79 - Jan 5, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    This would be great !! Give kadri, Gunarrson, 1st for Getz.

  4. atwatercrushesokoye - Jan 5, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    I’ve never heard Kadri as an asset, most just describe him as a bust. You can tell the trade deadline is getting closer, because the Toronto media is doing what they do every summer and trade deadline day, speculating that the Leaves will end up with all of the big names available. I’m sure this will end the same way it does every year, the Leaves getting shutout of the big names and the playoffs.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jan 5, 2012 at 10:24 PM

      The Toronto media does a lot of useless things but I can’t recall them doing what you’re describing.

      P.S. the Leaves….that’s priceless. When’s your next Mensa meeting?

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Jan 6, 2012 at 12:30 AM

        Yeah cause Howard Berger doesn’t trumpet the Leaves trading for every star? How long did he push the Leaves need to trade everything for Sergei Gonchar angle back in the day? TSN doesn’t rumour them to be in the mix for everyone. Brad Richards, Ilya Kovalchuk, Vincent Lecavalier, Jarome Iginla, Brayden Schenn and Corey Perry have all been linked to the Leaves by the media in the last two years….how many of them did they get? You’re right Toronto is completely under the radar when it comes to trade rumours!

        As for my next Mensa meeting, doesn’t take a genius to figure out the plural for leaf is leaves….but Toronto isn’t that bright!

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jan 6, 2012 at 12:39 AM

        TSN is the Canadian media, not the Toronto media. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.

        The LEAFS were one of the few teams to make an offer to Richards. Is there a reason TSN shouldn’t report that? I’m sure the LEAFS have been in the mix for most big names on the trading block recently given the amount of cap space and young talent they have.

        Not sure what point you’re trying to make here. Are you mad that your team so worthless it doesn’t even get mentioned in trade rumours or something?

    • shezbot - Jan 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM

      Leaves is plural for an actual leaf, however when replying to a proper noun such as a name it is “Maple Leaf’s”. You’ll learn the difference if you ever make it into high school.

      • finbar589 - Jan 10, 2012 at 5:14 PM

        Well, the plural form of Maple Leaf would be Maple Leafs, sans apostrophe.

        When do YOU get out of high school?

  5. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jan 5, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    The way Burkie swindles this team we should be seeing a Getzlaf for Komisarek and Orr trade this week.

    In all seriousness, it will take at least Kadri, Bozak, and a pick to land him. Maybe Schenn or Aulie as well. I don’t want to see either of those D men go but I would love to see Getzlaf in blue and white.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jan 6, 2012 at 12:38 AM

      Yeah like he took the Bruins to the cleaners on the Kessel trade…oh wait. Kessel is a good player but he’s not worth 2 firsts and a second, especially 2 top 10 picks. And it’s gonna take way more than Kadri, Bozak and a pick, probably Kadri, Schenn and at least one first round pick. Although he’s having a down year, Getzlaf is a top centreman, no way Anaheim just gives him away!

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jan 6, 2012 at 12:44 AM

        Lupul, Gardiner, and Giguere were steals for what he gave up to get them. He’s swindled the Ducks on two separate occasions. Did I say Burke also swindled the Bruins? I don’t think so, but hey, I’m from Toronto so maybe I’m not bright enough to understand what I wrote.

        I do know that I said a trade will take at least Kadri, Bozak, a pick and maybe Schenn or Aulie. Why you felt the need to repeat that is beyond me.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Jan 6, 2012 at 12:48 AM

        My bad, I when I initially read it I thought it said TEAMS not this team. To a degree I agree with you on that, but I wouldn’t put Giguere in the list of steals, Anaheim wanted to get rid of that salary and he didn’t really do anything for Toronto.

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jan 6, 2012 at 12:56 AM

        I only put him on the list because Burke found a dumping ground for both Toskala and Blake.

    • finbar589 - Jan 10, 2012 at 5:16 PM

      How ’bout Finger for Getzlaf, straight up?

  6. danphipps01 - Jan 6, 2012 at 12:28 AM

    The guys saying it’ll take a lot of names on Toronto’s end to make this happen are right… ordinarily. He’s a powerhouse, a star. He’s got a Cup, a gold medal, he’s a PPG player (well, normally), everything. It would cost Burkie dear to snag him out of Anaheim, but for one thing: the Ducks. Are. AWFUL. The Ducks aren’t really in a bargaining position here – they’re clearly endeavouring to salvage their season instead of throwing it and working on a roster for the next one, because if they were trying to do that, they’d have asked Teemu to waive his NTC by now. He’s a much, MUCH smarter piece to move if they’re planning for the future and not this season. So, if Murray’s willing to move anyone, he’s clearly under the (wrong) impression that they can still salvage this debacle. They can’t, but hey, I’m content to let him do something stupid whilst trying. So, their desperate bargaining position drives down Getzlaf’s value, as does his currently-abysmal play. Neither of these is going to make him cheap. Believe me, I’m not saying it’ll be a steal if it happens. What I AM saying, though, is that it might not cost what you’d expect Getzlaf to fetch at face value. Anaheim’s really got no room to make demands. They’re in the process of failing for Nail right now and unlike the Blue Jackets, I can’t imagine they actually WANT to. They’re willing, I suspect, to make a desperate move to try to save the season, and it’s moves like those that can undercut a big-name player’s value.

    But hey, I’m just an armchair GM. Let’s see how it plays out.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jan 6, 2012 at 12:45 AM

      If he makes the move now the asking price is low, BUT if he waits until closer to the deadline and gets a couple of teams involved then he could end up getting more than value for him. This whole article is predicated on the fact that Anaheim has to move Getzlaf, Perry and company now, they don’t. Realistically the best move is to wait until just before the deadline and wait for someone to blow you away with and offer, if no one does then hold on to them. Then at the draft you’ll get teams that fell short and want to add to their mix, teams looking to buy a star to build around and other teams that need the big contract to get to the salary floor all bidding on them.

      This season is a write-off for the Ducks, but they have some chips, the biggest mistake they could make is cashing them in just because.

      • danphipps01 - Jan 6, 2012 at 1:20 AM

        Aye, but I’m not sure Murray is as sanguine about the loss of the season as you and I. From the way he’s talked it sounds like he honestly thinks he can salvage this. I guess it wouldn’t be the first time in recent memory – last year’s playoff placement was on a wild hot streak. You never know if he might just be delusionally optimistic.

        Of course what you suggest would be the smart way of handling this hilarious clusterfuck.

  7. cshearing - Jan 6, 2012 at 8:05 AM

    Schenn, Kadri, Colborne plus a 2nd?

    Kadri is not a bust (at least, not yet); he is simply disliked by the coach in TO. He went on a 4-game point streak when given some ice time due to injuries. A fresh start may be just what he needs.

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