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	<title>Comments on: Concussion discussion: speed at the expense of safety?</title>
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		<title>By: danphipps01</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/23/concussion-discussion-speed-at-the-expense-of-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-26103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[danphipps01]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s been backing a new type of helmet that supposedly reduces the incidence of concussions, though they&#039;re still testing to evaluate how true that is: http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/21/messier-primeau-put-their-weight-behind-helmet-innovations/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s been backing a new type of helmet that supposedly reduces the incidence of concussions, though they&#8217;re still testing to evaluate how true that is: <a href="http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/21/messier-primeau-put-their-weight-behind-helmet-innovations/" rel="nofollow">http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/21/messier-primeau-put-their-weight-behind-helmet-innovations/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, bringing back the red line should be the last resort. 
As enumerated above, there are plenty of other options try beforre slowing down the game.
What is Messier&#039;s helmet experiment?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, bringing back the red line should be the last resort.<br />
As enumerated above, there are plenty of other options try beforre slowing down the game.<br />
What is Messier&#8217;s helmet experiment?</p>
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		<title>By: danphipps01</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not exactly champing at the bit to bring back the red line either. It&#039;s more like a last resort if switching to lighter, softer pads, adding no-touch icing and punishing coaches and/or GMs in addition to players for headshots and hits from behind don&#039;t work. Basically, I want to systematically strip EVERY other possible source for concussions out before being forced to significantly alter the speed or physicality of the game. 

The battle armour they&#039;re wearing really needs to be fixed. Taking a shoulder in those kind of plates is brutal even if it IS a clean check. Additionally, there needs to be more interest in Messier&#039;s little helmet experiment, as well as Primeau&#039;s concussion indicator (it is Primeau who&#039;s advertising that, right?). 

And since the threat of two or three or maybe no games lost (hey, brilliant idea - maybe we could get some CONSISTENCY on suspension rulings?) for a bad hit doesn&#039;t seem to bother the players, maybe the threat of lost salary would convince their coaches and GMs to get the troops in line. I imagine they&#039;d be entirely less comfortable with cheapshot hits when they&#039;re actually losing their own money instead of just having to stand up in front of the reporters, say they&#039;re sorry and go back to their lives like nothing ever happened.

If all that shit doesn&#039;t do it, you really have to wonder if lowering the speed is the only option. But I&#039;d prefer never to have to consider it. There are a lot of ideas left to try before that really needs to be contemplated. I&#039;m confident a much better solution can be found, one that doesn&#039;t cost us the high-intensity, fast-paced style of play that&#039;s been so good for the sport in recent years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not exactly champing at the bit to bring back the red line either. It&#8217;s more like a last resort if switching to lighter, softer pads, adding no-touch icing and punishing coaches and/or GMs in addition to players for headshots and hits from behind don&#8217;t work. Basically, I want to systematically strip EVERY other possible source for concussions out before being forced to significantly alter the speed or physicality of the game. </p>
<p>The battle armour they&#8217;re wearing really needs to be fixed. Taking a shoulder in those kind of plates is brutal even if it IS a clean check. Additionally, there needs to be more interest in Messier&#8217;s little helmet experiment, as well as Primeau&#8217;s concussion indicator (it is Primeau who&#8217;s advertising that, right?). </p>
<p>And since the threat of two or three or maybe no games lost (hey, brilliant idea &#8211; maybe we could get some CONSISTENCY on suspension rulings?) for a bad hit doesn&#8217;t seem to bother the players, maybe the threat of lost salary would convince their coaches and GMs to get the troops in line. I imagine they&#8217;d be entirely less comfortable with cheapshot hits when they&#8217;re actually losing their own money instead of just having to stand up in front of the reporters, say they&#8217;re sorry and go back to their lives like nothing ever happened.</p>
<p>If all that shit doesn&#8217;t do it, you really have to wonder if lowering the speed is the only option. But I&#8217;d prefer never to have to consider it. There are a lot of ideas left to try before that really needs to be contemplated. I&#8217;m confident a much better solution can be found, one that doesn&#8217;t cost us the high-intensity, fast-paced style of play that&#8217;s been so good for the sport in recent years.</p>
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		<title>By: loinstache</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[loinstache]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I honestly hope other venues are explored before resorting to measures like the two line pass. I know this is selfish, but as much as I want player safety I also dread a reversion to the clunky neutral zone game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly hope other venues are explored before resorting to measures like the two line pass. I know this is selfish, but as much as I want player safety I also dread a reversion to the clunky neutral zone game.</p>
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