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	<title>Comments on: Never thought we&#8217;d see this again &#8212; Teemu Selanne in Winnipeg</title>
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		<title>By: danphipps01</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;ve been going around these days. :/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve been going around these days. :/</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Brough</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Brough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. I think I have a concussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I think I have a concussion.</p>
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		<title>By: sippindasyzurp</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just an FYI the Jets don&#039;t play Anaheim till Saturday.]]></description>
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		<title>By: cmutimmah</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I wouldn&#039;t say &quot;Never&quot;, but it&#039;s hightly unlikely.  

This was back in the day that speed killed.  Bure, Bondra, Federov... guys that were fast were putting up monster numbers.  Problem is rookies don&#039;t get the ice time that Selanne got that season.  Hell, defenseman barely get that much time on the ice.  He was playing a monster amount of minutes/game that season.  

Guys with that speed don&#039;t have room in front of the net anymore.  The new defensive systems in hockey force those fast guys to the outside... also, defenseman play more defense now than back in the day.  

Also, everyteam would have a speed defenseman back then that would occasionally get caught deep (I&#039;m looking at you Phil Hausley).  Creating more fast paced end to end play.  There weren&#039;t sophisticated neutral zone traps and puck control teams like we have now either.

I have a feeling, with the dawn of the crap trap, no forecheck styles of teams now-a-days, we&#039;re going to see an &quot;illegal defense&quot; penalty brought into the NHL at some point.  It would be terrible, but if this is done it will re-open up center ice.

My proposal for opening up center ice without changing the rules, establishing the zone over the blue line would open up the entire half of the ice for the offence.  By that I mean as long as the puck enters the zone before other players or the player controlling the puck, the puck can come back over the blue line and everyone would still be on sides.  The red line would become the new (out of the zone) line.  (I know a lot of people won&#039;t like this, but it would fix the trap systems because people would establish the line and then could pull back and send the puck to a streaking winger, like a sling shot drop pass...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I wouldn&#8217;t say &#8220;Never&#8221;, but it&#8217;s hightly unlikely.  </p>
<p>This was back in the day that speed killed.  Bure, Bondra, Federov&#8230; guys that were fast were putting up monster numbers.  Problem is rookies don&#8217;t get the ice time that Selanne got that season.  Hell, defenseman barely get that much time on the ice.  He was playing a monster amount of minutes/game that season.  </p>
<p>Guys with that speed don&#8217;t have room in front of the net anymore.  The new defensive systems in hockey force those fast guys to the outside&#8230; also, defenseman play more defense now than back in the day.  </p>
<p>Also, everyteam would have a speed defenseman back then that would occasionally get caught deep (I&#8217;m looking at you Phil Hausley).  Creating more fast paced end to end play.  There weren&#8217;t sophisticated neutral zone traps and puck control teams like we have now either.</p>
<p>I have a feeling, with the dawn of the crap trap, no forecheck styles of teams now-a-days, we&#8217;re going to see an &#8220;illegal defense&#8221; penalty brought into the NHL at some point.  It would be terrible, but if this is done it will re-open up center ice.</p>
<p>My proposal for opening up center ice without changing the rules, establishing the zone over the blue line would open up the entire half of the ice for the offence.  By that I mean as long as the puck enters the zone before other players or the player controlling the puck, the puck can come back over the blue line and everyone would still be on sides.  The red line would become the new (out of the zone) line.  (I know a lot of people won&#8217;t like this, but it would fix the trap systems because people would establish the line and then could pull back and send the puck to a streaking winger, like a sling shot drop pass&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: cmutimmah</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tverdovsky... whatever happened to that guy?  He was good when he came into the league and went back to the Ducks... then he was an average guy for one season in Jersey and I forgot about him... 

So I looked it up... poor guy declined fast after the lockout.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8460493

Chad Kilger never really panned out to much of a scorer.  I&#039;d say Anaheim won on that deal, just a bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tverdovsky&#8230; whatever happened to that guy?  He was good when he came into the league and went back to the Ducks&#8230; then he was an average guy for one season in Jersey and I forgot about him&#8230; </p>
<p>So I looked it up&#8230; poor guy declined fast after the lockout.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8460493" rel="nofollow">http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8460493</a></p>
<p>Chad Kilger never really panned out to much of a scorer.  I&#8217;d say Anaheim won on that deal, just a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: lsxphotog</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teemu was and still is a terrific guy and player. He will always be known for his consistency and intelligence in the game. His rookie goal scoring title will NEVER be touched either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teemu was and still is a terrific guy and player. He will always be known for his consistency and intelligence in the game. His rookie goal scoring title will NEVER be touched either.</p>
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		<title>By: haterzgonahate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[haterzgonahate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teemu Selanne is just awesome.. one of the best people in the league]]></description>
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