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	<title>Comments on: Comparing Tootoo-Miller with Lucic-Miller is a useless exercise</title>
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		<title>By: icedtearex</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/comparing-tootoo-miller-with-lucic-miller-is-a-useless-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-23505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[icedtearex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously the limp wrister below has never put one off the opposing goalies mask.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the limp wrister below has never put one off the opposing goalies mask.</p>
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		<title>By: jaysaucer</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/comparing-tootoo-miller-with-lucic-miller-is-a-useless-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-23367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaysaucer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whiny?  Name one goalie that wouldn&#039;t be upset over that cheap shot?  Probably your team&#039;s goalie I bet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whiny?  Name one goalie that wouldn&#8217;t be upset over that cheap shot?  Probably your team&#8217;s goalie I bet.</p>
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		<title>By: lsxphotog</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/comparing-tootoo-miller-with-lucic-miller-is-a-useless-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-23350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lsxphotog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice post. If they&#039;re still teaching reading the Boston public school program, take a course and read the NHL rules. You won&#039;t, however, learn the respect players generally have for each other. It was a dirty play, no matter how you look at it, just like your smelly-ass harbor &quot;ha-bah&quot;. Come back in 25 years when you actually know something about hockey. Non-hockey fan&#039;s opinion of hockey are not important to me, they don&#039;t watch hockey?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. If they&#8217;re still teaching reading the Boston public school program, take a course and read the NHL rules. You won&#8217;t, however, learn the respect players generally have for each other. It was a dirty play, no matter how you look at it, just like your smelly-ass harbor &#8220;ha-bah&#8221;. Come back in 25 years when you actually know something about hockey. Non-hockey fan&#8217;s opinion of hockey are not important to me, they don&#8217;t watch hockey?</p>
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		<title>By: jaysaucer</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/comparing-tootoo-miller-with-lucic-miller-is-a-useless-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-23343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaysaucer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Non-hockey fans agree with me?  Is that because you don&#039;t know anything about hockey?  Lucic is clearly a d bag.  

Good job joining the bandwagon after the Cup win last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-hockey fans agree with me?  Is that because you don&#8217;t know anything about hockey?  Lucic is clearly a d bag.  </p>
<p>Good job joining the bandwagon after the Cup win last year.</p>
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		<title>By: solador78</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[solador78]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure they must seem really impressive in your boyfriend&#039;s beer league, but slapshots from 10 feet out don&#039;t scare NHL goalies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure they must seem really impressive in your boyfriend&#8217;s beer league, but slapshots from 10 feet out don&#8217;t scare NHL goalies.</p>
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		<title>By: boston25rocketman</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/comparing-tootoo-miller-with-lucic-miller-is-a-useless-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-23264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boston25rocketman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 05:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, completely deliberate.  The puck was obviously nowhere near the play, Lucic clearly didn&#039;t draw his arms in and Miller was clearly all the way back in his crease picking daisies like a good little boy.  Lucic should have swung his stick for Miller&#039;s fat whiny head the way Miller swung for his legs after the play.  Unbiased, sure.  Non-hockey fans agree with me, morons from Buffalo are the only ones who are seeing this different.  Wake up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, completely deliberate.  The puck was obviously nowhere near the play, Lucic clearly didn&#8217;t draw his arms in and Miller was clearly all the way back in his crease picking daisies like a good little boy.  Lucic should have swung his stick for Miller&#8217;s fat whiny head the way Miller swung for his legs after the play.  Unbiased, sure.  Non-hockey fans agree with me, morons from Buffalo are the only ones who are seeing this different.  Wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: drewsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drewsylvania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 04:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh look, a Sabres homer.  And cowardly ITG to boot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh look, a Sabres homer.  And cowardly ITG to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: janiesmom</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/comparing-tootoo-miller-with-lucic-miller-is-a-useless-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-23248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[janiesmom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, now Shanahan has explained why he didn&#039;t suspend Booth, for whatever that&#039;s worth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now Shanahan has explained why he didn&#8217;t suspend Booth, for whatever that&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: icedtearex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[icedtearex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately the league is being slowly turned into a non contact beer league.Half the commenters here have never laced on skates.What this says in effect is YOU CAN NO LONGER TAKE THE PUCK TO THE NET,THE OWNERS ARE MORE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING THEIR INVESTMENTS THAN THE EXCITEMENT OF THE GAME FOR THE FANS.At this rate we will soon have an owner dictating the rules of the game from his new franchise in Honolulu. This is not the pansy american games of baseball,basketball or football but it will soon be.I suggest as a former player that during a pansy shootout, players now wind up on Miller with a slapshot,headhigh from 10 feet out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the league is being slowly turned into a non contact beer league.Half the commenters here have never laced on skates.What this says in effect is YOU CAN NO LONGER TAKE THE PUCK TO THE NET,THE OWNERS ARE MORE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING THEIR INVESTMENTS THAN THE EXCITEMENT OF THE GAME FOR THE FANS.At this rate we will soon have an owner dictating the rules of the game from his new franchise in Honolulu. This is not the pansy american games of baseball,basketball or football but it will soon be.I suggest as a former player that during a pansy shootout, players now wind up on Miller with a slapshot,headhigh from 10 feet out.</p>
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		<title>By: pastabelly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pastabelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 23:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enough with the Lucic hit. Miller was way out of his crease to challenge Lucic for the puck. Too too ran him in the crease.  It&#039;s not useless to compare the hits. The only similarity is a whiny Sabres goaltender.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough with the Lucic hit. Miller was way out of his crease to challenge Lucic for the puck. Too too ran him in the crease.  It&#8217;s not useless to compare the hits. The only similarity is a whiny Sabres goaltender.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbyc27</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/comparing-tootoo-miller-with-lucic-miller-is-a-useless-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-23184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobbyc27]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 23:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do I put this decently......oh yeah, GFY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I put this decently&#8230;&#8230;oh yeah, GFY</p>
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		<title>By: lsxphotog</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/comparing-tootoo-miller-with-lucic-miller-is-a-useless-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-23181</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lsxphotog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 22:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ambiguity built into the rules is frustrating, that&#039;s for sure. Sometimes it&#039;s clearly an accident, other times, it&#039;s clearly deliberate. IMO, the Lucic hit was deliberate. He saw him the whole way down the ice and ran him. Anyone unbiased to the situation would agree, I hate both teams. :-) haha jk But this seemed more incidental than the Lucic if you ask me. He looks like there was hesitation and he also tried to avert giving Miller the full brunt of the hit. Lucic set himself up for a textbook hit like they teach you when you&#039;re a kid.

I feel this was a statement of &quot;avoid contacting goaltenders!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ambiguity built into the rules is frustrating, that&#8217;s for sure. Sometimes it&#8217;s clearly an accident, other times, it&#8217;s clearly deliberate. IMO, the Lucic hit was deliberate. He saw him the whole way down the ice and ran him. Anyone unbiased to the situation would agree, I hate both teams. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  haha jk But this seemed more incidental than the Lucic if you ask me. He looks like there was hesitation and he also tried to avert giving Miller the full brunt of the hit. Lucic set himself up for a textbook hit like they teach you when you&#8217;re a kid.</p>
<p>I feel this was a statement of &#8220;avoid contacting goaltenders!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGuy</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/comparing-tootoo-miller-with-lucic-miller-is-a-useless-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-23161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ThatGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My question is, if this suspension is not directly related to it being either Tootoo or because it was Miller that got run. Why wasn&#039;t David booth similiarly suspended for running Mikka Kippursoff?
It is almost the exact same play, you can&#039;t suspend one without the other but Booth didn&#039;t even have a hearing. I think it was even the same night, but it was definatly within a day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPhoG3kcAc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is, if this suspension is not directly related to it being either Tootoo or because it was Miller that got run. Why wasn&#8217;t David booth similiarly suspended for running Mikka Kippursoff?<br />
It is almost the exact same play, you can&#8217;t suspend one without the other but Booth didn&#8217;t even have a hearing. I think it was even the same night, but it was definatly within a day.</p>
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		<title>By: janiesmom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[janiesmom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been saying that ever since it happened and people STILL aren&#039;t listening.It&#039;s not bias against Tootoo or the Preds or in favor of Boston. It&#039;s a result of a clarification of the policy as set by the GMs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been saying that ever since it happened and people STILL aren&#8217;t listening.It&#8217;s not bias against Tootoo or the Preds or in favor of Boston. It&#8217;s a result of a clarification of the policy as set by the GMs.</p>
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		<title>By: drewsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drewsylvania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should never have been suspended.  He tried to get out of the way and screwed up.  If it weren&#039;t Miller or the Sabres, he wouldn&#039;t have been suspended.  This has nothing to do with a new rule on &quot;running the goalie&quot;--it has to do with Lindy doing his usual whiny d-bag routine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should never have been suspended.  He tried to get out of the way and screwed up.  If it weren&#8217;t Miller or the Sabres, he wouldn&#8217;t have been suspended.  This has nothing to do with a new rule on &#8220;running the goalie&#8221;&#8211;it has to do with Lindy doing his usual whiny d-bag routine.</p>
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		<title>By: solador78</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[solador78]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rules didn&#039;t change. It has always been illegal for a player to &quot;charge&quot; a goalie.

Shanahan was reprimanded for his incorrect ruling and was warned not to make the same mistake again.

It&#039;s just too bad that the NHL didn&#039;t step in to right the original wrong or at least replace the cause with someone more qualified.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rules didn&#8217;t change. It has always been illegal for a player to &#8220;charge&#8221; a goalie.</p>
<p>Shanahan was reprimanded for his incorrect ruling and was warned not to make the same mistake again.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just too bad that the NHL didn&#8217;t step in to right the original wrong or at least replace the cause with someone more qualified.</p>
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