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Jordin Tootoo to meet with Shanahan for running Ryan Miller

Dec 5, 2011, 11:02 AM EDT

Ryan Miller, Jordin Tootoo AP

If you thought that Jordin Tootoo wasn’t going to hear from the NHL for his gigantic hit on Buffalo’s Ryan Miller, you were wrong.

Tootoo has a phone hearing with Brendan Shanahan this afternoon to discuss what made him go barreling through Miller unabated leading to a huge fracas on Saturday night. The hit earned Tootoo a five-minute major and a game misconduct and now a phone call with Shanahan.

What makes this hit a lot different than the one Miller took from Milan Lucic is that Miller was within the confines of his crease when Tootoo blew him up.

The phone hearing generally means that if a suspension is coming it won’t be more than five games. With Tootoo’s suspension history and with Lindy Ruff’s premonition about it being open season on goalies appearing to come true, don’t expect Shanahan to go light on Tootoo. A five-game ban isn’t out of the question here.

  1. yettyskills - Dec 5, 2011 at 11:42 AM

    6 Games sounds right because it’s no talent and known idiot Jordin Tootoo

  2. canucks18 - Dec 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM

    His jump was an effort to get around Miller… 5 games is too much, since everyone is looking for the burning of Tootoo I’m thinking Shannahan will give him 3

    • michiganhockey11 - Dec 5, 2011 at 12:14 PM

      The replay showed he did not have to jump. Edges in, and he could have avoided it by going to his right. There was no one on his right and he did not have the puck. The excuse that he was pushed in is shenanigans. The defender did not shove him into Miller. He had the time to avoid it to his immediate right. No need to jump at all.

      Previous offender, I will also agree that he gets at least six.

      Wings Brendan Smith got a ton of games for a bad hit in the preseason. That cost him a bunch in the preseason and the regular season and he had no history. After what happened to the Flames goalies the other night, players should be on notice now.

  3. govtminion - Dec 5, 2011 at 11:53 AM

    Previous offender, goalie was in the crease, no attempt was made to avoid him, he didn’t have the puck, and he made a leaping motion at Miller. G’bye- see you in six games.

  4. davebabychreturns - Dec 5, 2011 at 12:37 PM

    Maybe I’m just playing Devil’s advocate here but if the league suspends Tootoo for this then I’d say the pendulum will have swung too far in the other direction; they will be suspending a hockey play (made by a known dbag, admittedly) to compensate for the fact that they did not suspend a non-hockey play earlier this season.

    Case in point, David Booth did something very similar to Miikka Kiprusoff last night and while obviously he was penalized (because it is illegal to run a goaltender – whether they are in their crease or not) there was no game misconduct, there will be no call with the league, etc.

    But because it is Miller (and probably also because it is Tootoo) the league is probably anxious to prove that it is not “open season” as Lindy Ruff said.

    .. All that being said, I’ll be astonished if Tootoo gets the kind of suspension being talked about here.

    • yettyskills - Dec 5, 2011 at 12:50 PM


      And of course it’s about a no talent repeat offender seeing a star goalie’s crease as an option to plow through.
      You can not allow No-Talents hurt Talent. Ever. Especially Goalies

      What is so hard to understand for some people? They want the same rules for everyone in some sort of fantasy land court setting? No, it does not work that way, when scrubs like Tootoo do stupid things repeatedly they deserved to be crushed on and off the ice.

      • davebabychreturns - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:38 PM

        Goalies are run all the time, as I pointed out. As a fan of a team with a marquee player in net I’ve watched it happen for years with zero response from the league (whether it was “Talent” or “No-Talents” doing the running).

        If Tootoo is suspended it won’t be because it’s illegal to run the goaltender or probably even because it’s Jordin Tootoo, it will be because Ryan Miller got hit in his first game back from an injury that he and his coach were extremely verbal about. If Tootoo is suspended it will be because the league is throwing the Sabres a bone, not because they object to players going hard to the net or because a fourth liner hit a goaltender.

        That’s not how supplemental discipline should work – suspending a player for a play you wouldn’t normally hand down a suspension for, all because you failed to suspect a player for a play you should hand down a suspension for (as the GMs promptly informed Shanahan afterwards).

  5. saintez - Dec 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM

    You may not like Tootoo but calling him a no
    talent clearly tells me you have no clue about hockey. All of you would LOVE to have him on your team. Ridiculous.

    • michiganhockey11 - Dec 5, 2011 at 1:25 PM

      I’m a wings fan and I clearly would not want him on my team. I would rather have crybaby Crosby in the winged wheel (please God, don’t smite me for saying this) than Tootoo.

      • cshearing - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:15 PM

        The fact you call him crybaby Crosby tells me all I need to know. You can be glad you are not your team’s GM.

  6. canucks18 - Dec 5, 2011 at 1:38 PM

    The no talent comments are getting tired and just plain weak… Sure, you might not want him on your team but it’s not because he’s a bad hockey player it’s personal dislike and that’s fine but enough with the “no talent” talk. And you should also consider where you are in comparison to these so called “no talent” NHL players.

    • michiganhockey11 - Dec 5, 2011 at 1:50 PM

      You’re right. As a wings fan, I don’t want a player to take a proverbial brain crap and run the other team’s goaltender. That’s just plain dumbassery.

  7. iainnyj - Dec 5, 2011 at 2:17 PM

    Detroit fans clearly objective when it comes to the Predators. Clearly. Why would we doubt their neutrality?

    • michiganhockey11 - Dec 6, 2011 at 10:40 AM

      Well, due to Bettman turning Detroit inot the traveling circus in the West for ratings… shall I list more examples?

  8. billsin20xx - Dec 5, 2011 at 4:27 PM

    Don’t forget though that shanahan didn’t suspend lucic because lucic told him “he didn’t intend to hit him”. All the multi-talented toto has to say is he meant to fly over miller, but didn’t quite get the jump he wanted!

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