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	<title>Comments on: Toronto&#8217;s goaltending situation has us thinking about the one that got away</title>
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		<title>By: danphipps01</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/10/torontos-goaltending-situation-has-us-thinking-about-the-one-that-got-away/comment-page-1/#comment-19899</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as plus/minus is a stat we care about in hockey, perhaps it&#039;s one we should care about in post scores as well. In which event... wow. Lameasish, you&#039;re setting records.

Anyway. Rask. Govtminion and mrmojorisin both have the truth of it - the deal was awful, gave Boston their future starter and Toronto jack shit, but Rask was going nowhere on what was then a godawful club anyway. He could not have had his spectacular rookie season in a Leafs&#039; jersey. Hell, until this season he probably couldn&#039;t have managed an AVERAGE one. Goalies are a product of their defensive coverage as much as their own skill and can&#039;t make a thoroughly uninspiring team go far on their own (unless it&#039;s Patrick Roy in the eighties, but that&#039;s beside the point). Rask&#039;s name wouldn&#039;t be nearly as big as it is if he had suffered in Toronto the whole time. They lost nothing they were going to make work if they had kept him.

Still a terrible, terrible, terrible deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as plus/minus is a stat we care about in hockey, perhaps it&#8217;s one we should care about in post scores as well. In which event&#8230; wow. Lameasish, you&#8217;re setting records.</p>
<p>Anyway. Rask. Govtminion and mrmojorisin both have the truth of it &#8211; the deal was awful, gave Boston their future starter and Toronto jack shit, but Rask was going nowhere on what was then a godawful club anyway. He could not have had his spectacular rookie season in a Leafs&#8217; jersey. Hell, until this season he probably couldn&#8217;t have managed an AVERAGE one. Goalies are a product of their defensive coverage as much as their own skill and can&#8217;t make a thoroughly uninspiring team go far on their own (unless it&#8217;s Patrick Roy in the eighties, but that&#8217;s beside the point). Rask&#8217;s name wouldn&#8217;t be nearly as big as it is if he had suffered in Toronto the whole time. They lost nothing they were going to make work if they had kept him.</p>
<p>Still a terrible, terrible, terrible deal.</p>
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		<title>By: lameasish</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lameasish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 02:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without me, there would be no comments, u can clearly read them, idiot. Nice name...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without me, there would be no comments, u can clearly read them, idiot. Nice name&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 1943mrmojorisin1971</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/10/torontos-goaltending-situation-has-us-thinking-about-the-one-that-got-away/comment-page-1/#comment-19869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1943mrmojorisin1971]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get outta here with your incoherent trollish rantings and take your own advice about getting a life]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get outta here with your incoherent trollish rantings and take your own advice about getting a life</p>
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		<title>By: lameasish</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/10/torontos-goaltending-situation-has-us-thinking-about-the-one-that-got-away/comment-page-1/#comment-19865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lameasish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 22:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad minion feels better about himself now, get a life, I&#039;m guessing u got beat up as a kid]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad minion feels better about himself now, get a life, I&#8217;m guessing u got beat up as a kid</p>
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		<title>By: 1943mrmojorisin1971</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1943mrmojorisin1971]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, you mention Pogge was solid for Canada in the WJC but leave out the part about Rask being named best goalie of the tourny]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, you mention Pogge was solid for Canada in the WJC but leave out the part about Rask being named best goalie of the tourny</p>
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		<title>By: 1943mrmojorisin1971</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1943mrmojorisin1971]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t even mention this. That is possibly the worst trade of the decade for the Leafs, and that obviously includes the Kessel trade. At least we got something in that deal. We got a piece of Swiss cheese and a bunch of losses in exchange for Rask]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t even mention this. That is possibly the worst trade of the decade for the Leafs, and that obviously includes the Kessel trade. At least we got something in that deal. We got a piece of Swiss cheese and a bunch of losses in exchange for Rask</p>
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		<title>By: govtminion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[govtminion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...no, you apparently can&#039;t. Nice lolcat imitation though. &quot;I can haz no point to my rantz kthxbai!&quot;

Anyway.

As to Rask... honestly, had he stayed in Toronto, would things have gone well? Probably not. First off, if he hadn&#039;t been traded to Boston, Ferguson didn&#039;t really seem like he was averse to bad deals- I&#039;d bet Rask would be wearing someone elses&#039; jersey anyway through some piss-poor trade or other.

But, assuming he wears a leaf on his sweater- then what? Porous defense (only now improving), no offense, bad penalties... goalies tend to take the fall when things aren&#039;t going well for a team. It doesn&#039;t even have to be a goaltending issue alone per se, if a team plays poorly for a stretch the goalie gets heat on him (see: Luongo, Roberto). That team could have had Patrick Roy in net and I&#039;m not sure it would have been enough to get into the playoffs.

By using Rask, they likely would have set his development back and not gotten anywhere. Instead, he&#039;s in Boston waiting to take the reigns of a very good hockey club- and showing a fresh Stanley Cup ring- and Toronto will at some point have James Reimer back, who has shown nothing but brilliance so far prior to getting hurt. All in all, it seems to have worked out for everyone in the long run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;no, you apparently can&#8217;t. Nice lolcat imitation though. &#8220;I can haz no point to my rantz kthxbai!&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway.</p>
<p>As to Rask&#8230; honestly, had he stayed in Toronto, would things have gone well? Probably not. First off, if he hadn&#8217;t been traded to Boston, Ferguson didn&#8217;t really seem like he was averse to bad deals- I&#8217;d bet Rask would be wearing someone elses&#8217; jersey anyway through some piss-poor trade or other.</p>
<p>But, assuming he wears a leaf on his sweater- then what? Porous defense (only now improving), no offense, bad penalties&#8230; goalies tend to take the fall when things aren&#8217;t going well for a team. It doesn&#8217;t even have to be a goaltending issue alone per se, if a team plays poorly for a stretch the goalie gets heat on him (see: Luongo, Roberto). That team could have had Patrick Roy in net and I&#8217;m not sure it would have been enough to get into the playoffs.</p>
<p>By using Rask, they likely would have set his development back and not gotten anywhere. Instead, he&#8217;s in Boston waiting to take the reigns of a very good hockey club- and showing a fresh Stanley Cup ring- and Toronto will at some point have James Reimer back, who has shown nothing but brilliance so far prior to getting hurt. All in all, it seems to have worked out for everyone in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: lameasish</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lameasish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do u hate the leafs that much?, u sound like a baby, give it a rest, there are tons of teams that &quot;let one get away&quot;, if it wasn&#039;t for the football talk I would delete this app, ur a joke, I can&#039;t even type properly to u, that&#039;s how much of a joke u are]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do u hate the leafs that much?, u sound like a baby, give it a rest, there are tons of teams that &#8220;let one get away&#8221;, if it wasn&#8217;t for the football talk I would delete this app, ur a joke, I can&#8217;t even type properly to u, that&#8217;s how much of a joke u are</p>
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