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Video: Should Briere’s shootout goal have counted?

Nov 3, 2011, 11:03 PM EDT

The NHL rulebook says that a player cannot come to a completely stop during a shootout attempt. For anyone who wants to see just how confusing that rule can be, Danny Briere had an attempt where it looked like he may have crossed the line. The play was reviewed by the war room in Toronto and was ruled a legal goal—a decision that not everyone agreed with when it was announced.  The Devils eventually won the shootout (4-3 final), thus minimizing any potential fallout from the questionable call.

Here’s a look at the entire shootout from the Devils/Flyers game—including Briere’s controversial goal.

  1. eyecorporations - Nov 3, 2011 at 11:37 PM

    wow great angle……

    • eyecorporations - Nov 3, 2011 at 11:37 PM

      and by that I meant camera angle sarcastically aka I can’t see shit

      • bluesrawesome - Nov 4, 2011 at 12:03 AM

        Lol

  2. me6661973 - Nov 4, 2011 at 5:44 AM

    Yes right foot stay in forward motion. Ref may the call.

    • bcjim - Nov 4, 2011 at 7:42 AM

      Ahh, so.

  3. cshearing - Nov 4, 2011 at 7:55 AM

    Agreed on the horrible replay shown here.

    It is very borderline, no doubt. I’ll trust the judggement of the war-room, but I would not recommend anyhone trying that move in the future; could easily be called off.

  4. ddogmay - Nov 4, 2011 at 8:44 AM

    If they allow a move like this- the goalie’s might as well go sit on the bench and just let the players flip a coin to see who wins. – they must have the heat up too high in the “war” room.

    • comeonnowguys - Nov 4, 2011 at 9:13 AM

      This is tough, because there was still a little bit of movement. For all intents and purposes, though, it was a stop.

      Problem is, you cant put “for all intents and purposes” in the rule book and expect it to be consistent.

      • ddogmay - Nov 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM

        When Briere puts on the breaks- the snow shower he gives Hedber is at least 6′-0″ high- it is physically impossible not to fully “stop” -(although a micro-second)- after that. The guys in the “war” room need to brush up on their physics.

      • kopy - Nov 4, 2011 at 12:09 PM

        I agree. Briere stopped his forward motion.

      • stakex - Nov 4, 2011 at 12:42 PM

        @ddogmay – Thats not a very scientific method of determining if he stopped…. not at all in fact.

  5. hank10 - Nov 4, 2011 at 12:47 PM

    There’s more to it than whether Briere came to a stop, did the puck stop moving also? The Shoot-out Rule is the same as the Penalty Shot Rule 24.2 wherein ‘. . . .The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete. . . .and any time the puck crosses the goal line or comes to a complete stop, the shot shall be considered complete. ‘ So was the puck still moving on or off his stick after throwing on the brakes?

    Better video here http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/flyers-talk/post/Brieres-dazzling-SO-goal-almost-didnt-co?blockID=588006&feedID=704# (advance to 1:47 mark)

  6. kingsneech - Nov 4, 2011 at 1:09 PM

    I’m still amazed the NHL is using a skills competition to settle a tied hockey game.

    How about an extra 5 mins of 4 on 4? If you can’t get a goal in 10 mins, so be it.

  7. phillyboy20 - Nov 4, 2011 at 1:12 PM

    Also jim jackson on the philly broadcast brought up a valid point that when guys pull off the spin move they technically have break and no longer have forward momentum while spinning. There is definitely some gray area in the rules

  8. falstaffsmind - Nov 4, 2011 at 2:11 PM

    I hate shootouts. And penalty kicks in soccer. Go an extra 5 of 4 v 4.

  9. flyerscup2010 - Nov 6, 2011 at 8:07 AM

    here’s a thought: how about just playing extra periods until someone wins? basketball and baseball do that, they don’t bother with BS point systems or BS skills competitions to decide a game. football allows ties, but football kinda sucks. unlike baseball, hockey teams don’t often play back-to-back games, so if they play for a while they have time to recharge. keep playing 20 minute 5 on 5 periods until someone wins. i hate the 4 on 4 gimmick, i hate the shootout gimmick, i’m not a purist by any means but i’m not a fan of hockey being turned into a circus either.

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