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Tortorella on Thornton: “Joe hasn’t won a g–damn thing in this league”

Nov 1, 2011, 3:32 PM EDT

You knew this was coming.

A day after Joe Thornton called the Rangers “probably the softest team we played against” following San Jose’s 5-2 loss at MSG, New York head coach John Tortorella went on the offensive.

From the NY Daily News:

It surprised me, and I’ve never heard a player say that. Joe’s a heck of a player, but here’s a player popping off about our team, and Joe hasn’t won a g–damn thing in this league. He could go down as a player, being one of the better players in our league never to win anything. So what he should do is just shut up. It was uncalled for, it was classless, and I’ve never had it happen like that before.


It’s still unclear why Thornton started this flame war — San Jose had an otherwise successful road trip, winning five of six, and the Rangers really aren’t a soft team. (As Greg Wyshynski pointed out last night, the Rangers average 24.3 hits per game to San Jose’s 17.7.) Jumbo also had to know saying something about a Tortorella-coached team is like waving a red flag at a bull. Then poking the bull with a hot iron. Then saying something derogatory about the bull’s mother.

[NB: Thornton has since backed off the comments, according to TSN’s Darren Dreger.]

Torts was obviously going to respond, but maybe that’s the whole point. It’s November, the season is young, the games don’t mean as much (especially against non-conference opponents) and let’s be real — boredom occasionally slips in. You’re more at liberty to speak your mind than you would be later in the year or the playoffs. It’s not like the comments are going to come back and bite Thornton, either. The Sharks don’t play the Rangers again this year, unless they meet in the Stanley Cup final (stop laughing.) Jumbo Joe blows off some steam, Torts blows it right back. There’s gotta be a better way to say that.

And hey, who doesn’t love a good soundbite war? Everybody knows hockey can always use a good ol’ fashioned war of words. Remember when Sean Avery tried to start one with Dion Phaneuf?

Okay, bad example.

UPDATE: Here’s video of NHL on NBC analysts Pierre McGuire and Jeremy Roenick breaking down the Torts-Thornton feud. Enjoy!

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  1. sunking1 - Nov 1, 2011 at 4:11 PM

    I gotta agree with Torts on this one, classless is right. Hey Joe-the team you’re calling soft just smacked you down 5-2. Whether they’re soft or not, making this comment right after they kicked you to the curb is NOT the time do it.

  2. kiopta1 - Nov 1, 2011 at 4:53 PM

    I have to agree with Tortilla Chip.

  3. danphipps01 - Nov 1, 2011 at 5:24 PM

    Let’s be honest – everyone both hoped for and saw this one coming. <3 the Wrath of Torts.

  4. gbiscottagecheesefatties - Nov 1, 2011 at 6:16 PM

    my hatred for San Jose grows and love for Torts with each day that passes. I am a fan of neither team or rival.

  5. nogoodtomedead - Nov 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM

    Thornton has won an MVP. I don’t know why this is becoming such a story. Thornton is allowed to express his opinion about opponents- and rather then everyone taking it as an insult to the Rangers why can’t it be a captain sending a message to his own team. If the Rangers weren’t soft it seems like they could laugh it off and move on- but for this level of response maybe he really hit the nail on the head! But well played by Tortorella, maybe his rant will bring Gaborik’s ‘gritty’ game to a whole new level.

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Nov 1, 2011 at 10:58 PM

      MVP < Stanley Cup.

  6. nogoodtomedead - Nov 1, 2011 at 7:38 PM

    P.S.- Isn’t saying ‘god-damn’ and ‘shut-up’ to the media in a description of an individual just as classless as calling an opponent ‘soft’?

  7. ferrytales1 - Nov 2, 2011 at 1:53 AM

    He’s won the MVP, Art Ross, an Olympic Gold Medal. That’s not nothing.

    • hanktheking - Nov 2, 2011 at 2:04 AM

      An Olympic gold medal isn’t won in the NHL. Torts clearly says “this league”.

      And Torts is correct..Joe Thornton is actually known as one of the softest big men in the league which is why I thought his comments were so amazingly ironic and injustified.

  8. cshearing - Nov 2, 2011 at 8:13 AM

    I agree with both guys.

  9. schnaidt20 - Nov 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM

    Joe Thorton and the San Jose Sharks are the old Ottawa Sens

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