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Hazing in hockey: How far is too far?

Oct 27, 2011, 6:53 PM EDT

Brian Elliott AP

There’s a story circulating around the interwebs this afternoon about a Manitoba Junior Hockey League coach who has been suspended as his team allegedly hazed a 15-year-old teammate. While it’s a sad reality that hazing occurs in just about every sport all over North America, the CBC is reporting that the boys on the Neepawa Natives took it to a whole new level.

The CBC article is something you should check out the piece in its entirety. Straight from the source: “The parents of a 15-year-old player told CBC News on Wednesday that their son was forced to dance in the team’s dressing room, then drag around water bottles that were tied to his genitals.”

People can debate the merits and importance of hazing within team-building, but there’s no way this type of behavior can be condoned. The worst part is that some parents are saying that the coach was in the locker room while all of this was going on.

It’s a modern-day example of a problem that has been around sports for decades. So let’s throw this out to the PHT readers. What do you think? We can all agree that this alleged situation goes way too far—but does hazing have a place in sports? Players deal with it, coaches look the other way, and parents fear it.

What say you fair readers?

  1. eli2tyree4 - Oct 27, 2011 at 7:05 PM

    gross

  2. dirtydog57 - Oct 27, 2011 at 7:20 PM

    Gone overboard. Someone had to instigate that ; probably a kid who got the idea from a dad from the “Good Old Boys”

  3. ossipeepats - Oct 27, 2011 at 7:30 PM

    Hazing, if done properly, is a good bonding experience… This is an example of taking it way too far

    when I made my high school varsity team as a junior, we were forced to wear name tags, in class, for a week. Each one of them said “Hi, my name is…” and had a female name. I was Saundra.

    • mikebel11 - Oct 30, 2011 at 3:49 PM

      Were you on the varsity chess team? That’s the lamest attempt at hazing I’ve ever heard.

  4. danphipps01 - Oct 27, 2011 at 7:30 PM

    A bit of fun with the new guy isn’t a problem, but for God’s sake, the keys words are “a bit.” This is just abusive and moronic.

  5. sknut - Oct 27, 2011 at 8:54 PM

    There is always a line and things that go too far and this is obviously too far. Its not hard to see that line but some knuckle head just plays the “aww boys will be boys” card. Its sad.

  6. bcisleman - Oct 27, 2011 at 9:59 PM

    To make this story even more wrong, Huffington Post reports that the victim was forced to apologize to his teammates & has been benched for 7 games and counting by the coach after what happened became public and the league only suspended his teammates between one and 5 games each for doing the deed.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/10/26/manitoba-hazing-bottles-genitals_n_1033725.html

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:17 PM

      The kid should just move to another team. I can’t see things getting any better for him. They still have his info up on their website too. He is going to get it bad. Not good @ all.

    • danphipps01 - Oct 28, 2011 at 2:06 AM

      Are you fucking serious? Unvelievable. At this point, the only way to get the lesson through their heads that THEY were wrong is to fire the coach and kick all the kids directly involved out of the league they play in permanently. This doesn’t just border on criminal, it fucking is. His career should be over. Their hopes of playing professionally should be permanently removed. Every single one of them, were there any justice in the world, would have a juvenile record for this, and HE gets punished? Fuck that. End every single one of their hockey careers permanently. THAT is what’s fair at this point. This is beyond ridiculous.

      • stepasidesue - Oct 31, 2011 at 9:21 PM

        Hazing should be called “I’m so insecure I need to humiliate someone to feel better about myself”. I know it’s a long name but it fits.

        This is definitely criminal and should be treated as such. Fire the coach and throw the boys off the team and blackball them. They’re pigs!

  7. psujay - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:01 PM

    Hazing freshmen hockey players is like a welcome mat to the team. Abusing them on the other hand is detrimental. That is abuse.

    Making them carry the seniors’ pads, getting them drunk, and getting a senior girl to hit on them to laugh at their awkwardness on the other hand, that’s just good fun.

  8. icelovinbrotha215 - Oct 27, 2011 at 10:12 PM

    That’s not right. We had our freshman do a scavenger throughout campus and the surrounding area. And get water bottles and pucks for the whole year. Unfortunately, this kind of stuff happens way too often in jr. hockey. There aren’t parents around to police the ‘older’ kids.

  9. spizzjr - Oct 27, 2011 at 11:14 PM

    Makes you wonder why his teammates and coach wanted to see him dance naked poor kid

    • danphipps01 - Oct 28, 2011 at 2:03 AM

      How many do you wager called him a faggot and completely missed the irony involved? Idiot children.

  10. triplepropalm - Oct 28, 2011 at 7:41 AM

    Hazing is a crime in most states in the US.

    New York Hazing Law

    § 120.16 Hazing in the first degree.
    A person is guilty of hazing in the first degree when, in the course of another person’s initiation into or affiliation with any organization,he intentionally or recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of physical injury to such other person or a third person and thereby causes such injury.

    Hazing in the first degree is a class A misdemeanor.

    § 120.17 Hazing in the second degree.

    A person is guilty of hazing in the second degree when, in the course of another person’s initiation or affiliation with any organization, he intentionally or recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of physical injury to such other person or a third person.

    Hazing in the second degree is a violation.

    To me, if you wouldn’t do it in front of your mother and your grandmother, then you shouldn’t do it in the locker room, especially when we are talking about minors.

    • balewsquare - Oct 28, 2011 at 12:31 PM

      You’ve never been in a locker room, huh?

  11. balewsquare - Oct 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM

    I played hockey my whole younger life. Hazing had a place, but it tended to be on the teams that weren’t focused. The truly special teams accept the current roster as brothers, and you go into battle together. Time spent hazing is time that could be spent prepping for games.

  12. michiganhockey11 - Oct 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM

    This is ridiculous. Players and coach should face criminal if not at least civil punishment. Coach needs to be banned and the kids as well. Who the hell taught them something like this is acceptable? Sure, did we get hazed in high school hockey, yeah. But it was limited to stuff like using up all the hot water in the showers so they had all cold water. And throwing their gear/bag onto the ice while they were in the shower, forcing them go go out onto the ice wearing their towel to retrieve it. At worse it was going “helmets and gloves” (pads taken off from waist up and leave helmets and gloves on and duke it out for 1-2 min), not to be confused with “bonnets and mittens”.

    This is on a criminal level. Imagine if he can’t have kids because of this?

    ^^^with balewsquare. No comrodery in this locker room.

    • mikebel11 - Oct 30, 2011 at 3:54 PM

      Welcome to Canada. We don’t play high school hockey. This is junior hockey in Canada, your high school crap is incomparable.

  13. mgp1219 - Oct 28, 2011 at 1:08 PM

    Since the caoch doesn’t think it was a big deal, perhaps he shoild be forced to do the same thing.

  14. t16rich - Nov 3, 2011 at 3:03 PM

    Great. First they were inchingtowards no more hitting or fighting. Now there going towards no more crayons up rookies butts? Brutal.

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