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	<title>Comments on: Retirements of Paul Kariya and Dave Scatchard send clear message to NHL about concussions</title>
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		<title>By: capsrockva</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steckel did NOT receive any penalty or suspension for it. That alone makes it completely legal. Any non-Pens fans fan should see that]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steckel did NOT receive any penalty or suspension for it. That alone makes it completely legal. Any non-Pens fans fan should see that</p>
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		<title>By: icelovinbrotha215</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t a legal hit. It wasn&#039;t even technically a hit. As stakex pointed out, Steckel collided with Crosby. Steckel was looking the opposite way. It wasn&#039;t a head shot. I know people will want to spin it that way. But the video doesn&#039;t lie. It&#039;s an unfortunate situation and hopefully Crosby can recover. If he doesn&#039;t play, it makes the Flyers-Pens rivalry less entertaining.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t a legal hit. It wasn&#8217;t even technically a hit. As stakex pointed out, Steckel collided with Crosby. Steckel was looking the opposite way. It wasn&#8217;t a head shot. I know people will want to spin it that way. But the video doesn&#8217;t lie. It&#8217;s an unfortunate situation and hopefully Crosby can recover. If he doesn&#8217;t play, it makes the Flyers-Pens rivalry less entertaining.</p>
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		<title>By: capsrockva</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steckel&#039;s hit was completely legal]]></description>
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		<title>By: stakex</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good article, however I don&#039;t get throwing Crosby into this debate. Sure he suffered a concussion, and this debate is about concussions... but Crosby was not injured due to a headshot. The Steckel COLLISION (not hit, collision) is what did it to Sid... and it was an accident. The two skated into eachother while watching the play. What does that have to do with headshots? Nothing at all. I mean, you can&#039;t punish a guy becasue he accidently collided with another player. As for Hedman, his hit was a check from behind, but it wasn&#039;t a headshot. The only reason it seems bad is because it irritated the injury from the Steckel collision.... otherwise it would never have injured Crosby.

If your going to make a point about a star player who currently can&#039;t play because of a bannable hit... why not use Marc Savard instead? After all, he was hurt when Matt Cooke made a clear intent to target his head (behind the play I might add)... and hes never been the same since. Thats a far more clear example of what the league should be trying to prevent then what happened with Crosby, which was a simple accident. 

With all that said, the league has actually created an environment over the last 5-10 years that makes concussions far more likely. Not only did they not punish Matt Cooke after several nasty headshots, making it clear for a long time that intentional headshots were just fine, but the new rules over the last few years make injury more likely. With the removal of holding a hooking, the game is much faster now... and the players are getting bigger and bigger. More speed and size means more force during hits/collisions.... which will lead to more concussions. A prime example of this is when an attacking player is chasing the puck that was dumped into the offensive zone. The defense use to be able to slow him down... thus giving some protection to the defender going back for the puck. Now however, your not allowed to slow down the attacking player at all, meaning he is coming in at full speed, and the defender retreaving the puck is a sitting duck. We have already seen some very nasty hits in this situation, and one very brutal one in the AHL.

Like it or not, slowing the game down is the one sure thing the league can do to reduce concussions right now. They won&#039;t do that of course, because making a bit more money is far more important to the league then player safty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good article, however I don&#8217;t get throwing Crosby into this debate. Sure he suffered a concussion, and this debate is about concussions&#8230; but Crosby was not injured due to a headshot. The Steckel COLLISION (not hit, collision) is what did it to Sid&#8230; and it was an accident. The two skated into eachother while watching the play. What does that have to do with headshots? Nothing at all. I mean, you can&#8217;t punish a guy becasue he accidently collided with another player. As for Hedman, his hit was a check from behind, but it wasn&#8217;t a headshot. The only reason it seems bad is because it irritated the injury from the Steckel collision&#8230;. otherwise it would never have injured Crosby.</p>
<p>If your going to make a point about a star player who currently can&#8217;t play because of a bannable hit&#8230; why not use Marc Savard instead? After all, he was hurt when Matt Cooke made a clear intent to target his head (behind the play I might add)&#8230; and hes never been the same since. Thats a far more clear example of what the league should be trying to prevent then what happened with Crosby, which was a simple accident. </p>
<p>With all that said, the league has actually created an environment over the last 5-10 years that makes concussions far more likely. Not only did they not punish Matt Cooke after several nasty headshots, making it clear for a long time that intentional headshots were just fine, but the new rules over the last few years make injury more likely. With the removal of holding a hooking, the game is much faster now&#8230; and the players are getting bigger and bigger. More speed and size means more force during hits/collisions&#8230;. which will lead to more concussions. A prime example of this is when an attacking player is chasing the puck that was dumped into the offensive zone. The defense use to be able to slow him down&#8230; thus giving some protection to the defender going back for the puck. Now however, your not allowed to slow down the attacking player at all, meaning he is coming in at full speed, and the defender retreaving the puck is a sitting duck. We have already seen some very nasty hits in this situation, and one very brutal one in the AHL.</p>
<p>Like it or not, slowing the game down is the one sure thing the league can do to reduce concussions right now. They won&#8217;t do that of course, because making a bit more money is far more important to the league then player safty.</p>
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		<title>By: gscheelar</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kariya could have been even better if not for those hits. The fact that he played when mugging people was legal was s serious detriment to his career.
Players need to get the broader message of respecting the opponent before anything changes in the game--stickwork, late and/or dangerous hits, sucker punches, slewfooting,etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kariya could have been even better if not for those hits. The fact that he played when mugging people was legal was s serious detriment to his career.<br />
Players need to get the broader message of respecting the opponent before anything changes in the game&#8211;stickwork, late and/or dangerous hits, sucker punches, slewfooting,etc.</p>
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		<title>By: blastfurnaceknows</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What good is such a &quot;clear&quot; message when the listener has proven to completely illiterate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What good is such a &#8220;clear&#8221; message when the listener has proven to completely illiterate?</p>
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