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Islanders ask MSG not to show February brawlfest for Friday watch party

Aug 18, 2011, 12:45 PM EDT

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It turns out the Islanders can do the smart thing after all.

Plans to hold a team-sponsored watch party this Friday for the re-airing of the Islanders’ 9-3 win over the Penguins from February 11th that saw 342 penalty minutes handed out have been changed. The party is still on, however the Islanders are asking their broadcast partner, MSG Network, to change which game they’re showing.

A statement from the Isles makes their point for them.

“The New York Islanders have requested that MSG Networks change the originally scheduled game to be viewed at the Friday, Aug. 19 meetup.  As a part of MSG Plus’ Summer Ice programming, the schedule had the Islanders game from Friday, Feb. 11 against the Pittsburgh Penguins set to air at 7 p.m.  Instead MSG Plus will air the Islanders 7-6 overtime victory on Sunday, Feb. 13 over the Buffalo Sabres.”

This decision comes on the heels of NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly saying that he didn’t approve of the game being used in this light.

PHT pointed out that their original plans to celebrate the February 11 game seemed to be crass given what happened throughout that game and the bloodbath that erupted throughout it as well as the fact the Islanders organization was fined $100,000 for their actions as well. Islanders fans have more than let their feelings be known about how they feel about our opinion on things and we’re happy to see the passion of the Islanders fans still exists.

There’s nothing wrong with having pride in your team, something which Islanders fans seem to think was our point in questioning their plans to show this game and throw a party over it. Celebrate your wins, celebrate that game if you’d like to, that’s fine. Our issue came with the team, not the fans, supporting it in such a public way. Fans can and will do whatever they want to and that’s their beautiful right as an American (or Canadian). Teams and organizations are held to a higher standard, however.

When a team decides to celebrate a game like this that saw the NHL find enough negligence going on that they fined the organization, that’s wrong and that’s been our contention from the get-go. Teams have to have the stiff upper lip in the public’s eyes and given the Penguins’ ill feelings over the game and the NHL’s reaction to the Islanders, erring on the side of caution would’ve been the right move.

We get that Isles fans hate every bit of this and think we’re jerks. That’s fine. Embrace your renegade side and rage against “the man.” While the game was important for the Islanders to rally as a fan base it didn’t do much for the team as a rallying point as they went 11-10-6 after that 9-3 win.

The Islanders are a team on the rise and while Trevor Gillies‘ presence  on their roster is always going to provide a lightning rod for controversy given his role in that February 11 game, we’re hoping that the fans will have more to rally around with their young and rising talent like John Tavares, Matt Moulson, Michael Grabner and others rather than with the likes of Gillies and Micheal Haley.

  1. bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 1:06 PM

    This has nothing to do with fans being “renegades”. It has to do with the NHL setting different standards for different teams.

    Byelsma turned Cooke loose on RDP & his whole team loose on the NYI on two separate occasions and that’s not “negligence”. Normally a team is fined when one of its players leaves the bench. Normally owners get fined when they verbally abuse the NHL. The Penguins are negligent in just keeping Matt Cooke on their roster.

    And if we are going to set up some hypocritical “higher standard” for NHL franchises which the Penguins apparently aren’t required to adhere to, how about the NHL? How about THEIR decision to celebrate Phaneuf’s hit on JT? This is a bunch of hypocritical nonsense.

    • timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:22 PM

      if u watched the game Di Pietro was an ass the whole game…

      if the Pens r negligent, what are the Isles for keeping trailor trash Gillies on the roster ??? u hypocrite..

      a player left the bench cause your wanna be tough guy wouldn’t fight someone his size and went after the damn goalie …wow, tough guy Haley is..

      i agree with u on the Phaneuf hit…they showed that on NHL network at least 5 times during the hour show..

      • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:28 PM

        RDP was simply playing his position. Trying to justify Cooke’s and Byelsma’s behavior is foolish. Isles having an enforcer on their roster is no different than Pens keeping several on theirs. Haley is actually smaller than Johnson and has a shorter reach, plus Johnson challenged him. Haley takes on bigger guys all the time.

    • timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:42 PM

      so your saying an enforcer vs a goalie is a fair fight…come on now..

      haley skated towards him, what did u want him to do….run an hide look Di Pietro would of done

      • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:52 PM

        Haley’s a smaller guy with a shorter reach and he skated toward Johnson because Johnson called him out.

      • timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM

        so the Islanders were upset everyone was picking on them….boo hoo boo hoo..

        so u cheap shot Talbot, fight a goalie and attack a young kid then taunt him while he is hurt on the ice.. classy group Garth Snow has assembled

        and the Isles wonder why everyone takes shots at them…hard to figure out why.

      • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:54 PM

        Isles and fans were upset because Pens and others regularly took cheap shots at them and got away with it. Talbot was one of the worst offenders and he NEVER answered the bell against the NYI…that’s why Martin had to jump him. The goalie in question was looking for a fight.

  2. blastfurnaceknows - Aug 18, 2011 at 1:49 PM

    Wow, bcisleman, you sure did miss the point, didn’t you? The scorn your beloved franchise received was for trying to celebrate that “brawl” at a team-sponsored event. Now, I don’t live in Pittsburgh, but I haven’t heard anything about a Penguins-sponsored Matt Cooke’s best, biggest and worst hits video-party. Then again, if memory serves, the Penguins have, in recent years, had plenty of other accomplishments to celebrate at team-sponsored events. This really comes down to a pitiful, bitter, sad and tiny little entity looking to celebrate something ugly, because that was all it had to celebrate. Sorry YOU are so disappointed, bc.

    • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

      Wow, no I don’t miss the point at all–you do. The NHL celebrates violence all the time. It re-aired the brawl game between the Bruins and the Habs. It sponsored an HBO special on the Broadstreet Bullies. It celebrated Phaneuf’s cheapshot on JT the very next day.

      The Penguins have won one Stanley Cup in recent years and they have the Boy Wonder so everyone turns a blind eye to their behavior on and off the ice. THEY led the NHL in penalties last year. THEY have consistently taken cheap shots at the Islanders over the last few years and generally gotten away with it. THEY keep Matt Cooke on their roster. THEY are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

      Your analysis of the Islander organization is warped and foolish. This was a team and a fanbase that has been abused and ridiculed by the media and other fans and whose players the NHL has given other teams its permission to take cheap shots at regularly–this was that team standing up and saying enough. I have given up caring what the media or other fans think because they have consistently shown their bias. When the NHL changes its culture, it will then have the right to pontificate. Right now, its just a bad joke.

      • timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:49 PM

        your showing your intelligence, we employ Cooke, but Trevor is an altar boy ??
        give me a break..
        they led the league in penalty minute due to all the fighting majors…Partly due to chicken shit teams like the Isles taking liberties on Crosby and Malkin all the time..

        fanbase ridiculed by the media ??? give me a break, the thousands of empty seats due that and the fact u guys can’t ever make the playoffs

      • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:57 PM

        Trev doesnt usually take cheap shots. He takes on the other team’s HW enforcer and responds to cheap shots against his guys. Not sure why he went after Tangradi as he did, but Tangradi does have a reputation of his own.

        If any team takes cheap shots at opposing team players, its the Pens. They have done it constantly against the Islanders and that is part of the reason the 2/11 brawls took place.

        How many times did your team make the playoffs when it was rebuilding?

      • timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM

        Trev also gets supsended and first shift of first game back does a pattened Gillies cheap shot…I could care less if it was Clutterbuck.

        Gillies is trash, if u think he should be fighting Tangradi then your naive and clueless…

      • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:17 PM

        His first shift, he sees Clutterbuck make a cheapshot on a much smaller NYI who was writhing on the ice in pain as Gillies made his hit on somebody his size who has a rep as a cheapshot artist and did exactly that all game long. As I said, Tangradi has his own rep and is comparable in size to Gillies. That said, I don’t know why Gillies went off on him as he did. The Clutterbuck thing was a whole different animal. CC got what he deserved.

      • blastfurnaceknows - Aug 18, 2011 at 4:21 PM

        Boy you really have a persecution complex, don’t you bc? Allow me to add to that, shall I – your franchise’s last 21 years consists of 15 failures to make the playoffs and 5 1st round exits. I guess that is the NHL and Pittsburgh Penguins’ fault, too. Bias against the Isles? For what purpose? They stink just fine on their own. And in case YOU missed it simpleton, YOU are the pitiful, bitter, sad & tiny entity (not your worthless, almost out of town franchise) who seems SO devastated that you couldn’t celebrate that ugliness. At least your franchise had the sense to reconsider its position and not point to all the invisible men in the grassy knoll as an excuse for considering it in the first place. Talk about warped, sad man.

      • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 6:58 PM

        There are many other teams with as or more pathetic records than the Islanders have had since 1993 who don’t get half the abuse and derision they do.

        I missed nothing, moron. Not that it should matter to your little brain, but pretty much all Islander fans feel as I do and I know because I talk to them all the time. The Islanders have 4 Cups. They are the last major league franchise in any sport to win four straight championships–something unlikely to ever happen again. They are now building a team that will take the Cup back again. When that happens, and it will, you and the rest of the haters can go suck an egg.

  3. tommyelay - Aug 18, 2011 at 1:57 PM

    Shouldn’t Penguin fans be more worried about the fact that Crosby’s brain is still rattling around inside his skull ?

    • abrienza428 - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:12 PM

      Who said Penguin fans were worried about this?

    • timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:19 PM

      shouldn’t Isles fans(all 23 of them) worry about them moving out soon and taking the carnival to another city ?

      I love the Cooke bashers, he at least is a good hockey player..

      while the Isles employ Trailor Trash Trevor….with the nice haircut….who does nothing on the ice but make an ass of himself

      • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:58 PM

        There were 10,000 fans at the NYI Draft Party recently.

      • timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:06 PM

        that’s great..

        regardless of the chicken shit events by the Islanders that night.. it is over with..

        and before the blowout in Pitt this yr and 1 last yr.. and the one on the Isle on fight night..the Pens and Isles have played some great hard fought games, normally 1 or 2 goal games, and more than few going to ot

        they do have a nice young team.
        that being said, no team got a way with more thuggery than the Bruins last yr.
        Lucic is the biggest ass in the league, tied with Cooke and Gillies

  4. marvelsmith420 - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

    What? Bylsma turned Matt Cooke loose on Dipietro? If you are referring to the contact between Cooke and Dipietro that happened right before Brent Johnson destroyed Rick’s eye socket then you might want to watch that again. At the very least both players were at fault and went at each other. You make it sound like Cooke was running the goalie and that is really not the case.

    I could also care less if the Islander fans want to celebrate this game, it was a beat down on the scoreboard. I have no issue with them being proud of dropping 9 goals on us. It only adds more fuel to the rivalry which has been pretty much non existent for years. Now when the Pens and Islanders play we know there will be some bad blood.

    Celebrating all of the fighting that went down is kind of bush league though considering the fact that their goons didn’t have the balls to fight any of the Penguins tough guys. They wouldn’t fight Engellend or Godard yet they had no problem jumping Max Talbot from behind and elbowing Tangradi in the head and then punching him while he lay on the ice with a concussion. I mean, seriously…Talbot is not a fighter and they still had to cheap shot him just to get some licks in, and ‘Gradi is a rookie who was blindsided by an elbow. I get embarrassed when Cooke pulls that kind of stuff, I can’t imagine an entire fanbase openly celebrating something like that when their players do it.

    • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM

      I am referring to the 10/16.10 game where Cooke deliberately ran RDP 3 times. If you watched the game, Gillies and others did fight your big guys and Martin’s thing with Talbot wasnt a fight. Talbot turned turtle the moment he was touched and Martin stopped at that point.

      • marvelsmith420 - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM

        Ah, ok my bad. I don’t remember the game you are referring to but I’ll take your word for it. It’s not like I have all that hard of a time picturing Cooke doing something like that anyway and it might explain why he and RDP went at it before the goalie fight.

        As far as the fighting goes I don’t remember any of the Islanders squaring up and going one on one with Engellend or Godard, who were considered our two top fighters at the time. And Talbot turtled because he was being jumped from behind. It’s not like he’s a tough guy anyway, it’s pathetic it even came to that.

        With all that said, it’s obvious Pens and Islanders fans are going to see the situation differently. We consider the Islanders dirty for their actions during that game and Isles fans think the Pens had it coming for previous dirty incidents. That’s all good and understandable, my only point was that if the Islanders wanted to pick a game to celebrate how tough their team is, they picked the wrong one because none of those fights were that impressive. Most of them were straight up cheap shots from behind. If they wanted to show the game to celebrate how bad they embarrassed the Pens on the scoreboard though then by all means they should show it, because as I said before it was a beatdown.

        I kind of wish the NHL would have stayed out of this whole thing and let them do what they wanted to do. It doesn’t offend me either way and I was kind of hoping they would show it just for tension it would have built up for the next time our two teams play.

      • jpelle82 - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:08 PM

        martin sucker punched him from behind. talbot goes toe to toe with guys all the time and isnt scared to get his ass kicked. (see Talbot vs Carcillo) it was a cheap shot by a pussy with no honor in his game

      • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:11 PM

        Talbot got “jumped from behind” because he repeatedly makes questionable or dirty hits and then refuses to answer the bell. Martin probably felt that the only way to get him to fight was to jump him. Haley is more Talbots size so I would rather have had him do it.

        There were a number of fights involving Godard and Rupp matched with NYI who were their size or smaller. Don’t remember Engellend so much. NYI and their fans celebrated standing up for themselves after repeatedly being targets for much of the NHL.

  5. timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM

    Gillies is a waste of a human life..

    the guy is trash…plain and simple

  6. jpelle82 - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM

    when you’re the doormat you get stepped on…shit happens.

    • timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:17 PM

      i think the Isles are up and coming team…
      I could see them overtaking the Rangers and Devils soon…and they always play us and the Flyers tough…they are not easy 2 pts..

      • jpelle82 - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM

        ok…they have an underachieving high draft choice in tavares, no goalie, a busted free agency pick up in rolston, and a high-paid low-return streit. their only bright spot is grabner

    • bcisleman - Aug 18, 2011 at 4:00 PM

      JT’s numbers to date are better than Messier’s at that age and he isnt playing alongside the Great One. Rolston was a trade. Reasoner was the FA pickup and both were solid acquisitions. In addition to what Timmons mentions, MacDonald and Hamonic are turning into a very solid 2nd pairing and there is a ton of talent in the system.

      • blastfurnaceknows - Aug 19, 2011 at 1:29 PM

        BC, you are really the total package, aren’t you? Sad, pitiful, pathetic, bitter, tiny, stupid and DELUIONAL, if you think the Isles (or whatever that franchise is to become to be called when it moves to Kansas City) will sniff the Cup in the next 5 years. I mean you’d think they’d be building something special – they’ve drafted at or near the top of the draft for 15 of the last 20 years or so – but something in the Long Island air must warp everything and everyone into the little boy who repeatedly cries VICTIM during and after each and every loss.

      • bcisleman - Aug 19, 2011 at 2:17 PM

        Psychologists have a word for your behavior: projection. Everything you just said about me totally applies to you.

        Like pretty much all Islander haters, you are utterly clueless about the team. What you “know” or think you know about the team is outdated or just plain wrong.

        There is no way the NYI will ever leave the NY area. Wang has said he would never sell the team out of the area and, if he changed his mind, the NHL, the NYR, and the NJD would fight it tooth and nail. Plus there are no real viable alternatives–especially not KC where professional hockey has never done anything but fail.

        The NYI did have a long period when Milbury was GM when prospects werent developed patiently and poor draft choices were made. That era is over. Snow has made one great draft choice after another in the last four years plus acquisitions under the radar like Moulson, Grabner, Streit , and Montoya. Even Islander-hating Pen fans on this thread acknowledge what your limited brain cannot: the Islanders are building a serious contender and they will win the Cup before their lease expires in 2015.

  7. timmons94 - Aug 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM

    i am a Pens fan and no way like the Islanders at all.. but come on Taveras is solid, so is Parenteau and former Pen Matt Moulson(Talbots best buddy), Comeau, Nielson and Bailey are solid as well
    i would take Grabner anyday, to be a plus 10 or so on that team says a lot about how good he is

  8. meeshka71 - Aug 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM

    I like both teams actually and I have my own opinion about what happened in that game. However, its all hockey in the end and you can argue about it all day. I must say that this video changed my opinion of Trevor Gillies. Its completely ridiculous, funny and awesome all at the same time. I’ve showed it to a few pens fans who actually laughed (a little).

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Aug 19, 2011 at 3:16 PM

      Man. Only if he spent this much time actually playing hockey….

  9. blastfurnaceknows - Aug 26, 2011 at 4:17 PM

    Sorry, it’s been a while, but I have a life Long Island. But, did you really respond to my comment with the classic playground retort “I’m rubber and you’re glue.” How do my comments apply to me? You don’t even know what team I root for, moron. But, let’s assume it is any team other than the Islanders. I remain proud that my team is not the suckiest bunch of whiny crybabies in the league. Wow, does that team deserve its fan base and vice versa. You blame everyone around you for your bottom-dwelling reputation, and then reinforce people’s opinions by whining because you can’t celebrate an atrocity and rebutting my suggestion that your team may soon be leaving town by saying, no they aren’t – nobody else wants them. Like I said, people like you make it easy to ridicule NYI, because you are so warped you still think you are somehow entitled for accomplishments that occurred 3 decades ago. You ought to saddle up with a Cleveland Brown fan sometime. The two of you could have your own Brokeback Mountain moment over the good, old days, when anyone actually considered your franchises relevant for anything other than ridicule. I’m done with you now!

    • bcisleman - Aug 26, 2011 at 5:12 PM

      You are sorry. That is the one accurate comment you have made. Why would I care what team an ignorant moron like you roots for?

      You know nothing about the Islanders, nothing about the game in question, nothing about what led up to the game in question or really anything connected with this event. Yes, everything you said applies to you because you are a clueless homophobic idiot who probably also thinks that global warming is a myth. Member of the Flat World Society, are you?

      The whiners in this story are the Pen fans who cried up such a storm because the Islander fans were going to watch a game in which the Pens were humiliated that the NHL pressured the Islanders into getting MSG to change the featured game. I am just sorry that the NHL and Islander management didnt grow a pair and tell the Pens fans to grow up.

      The idea that this game was an”atrocity” is so laughable that it is hard to imagine anyone with a brain…but, oh yeah, its you! Been in the middle of a war before and was living in NY during 9/11. Lost a classmate there. Was at Ground Zero and smelled death in the air. That’s an atrocity. But then you were probably one of the morons who thought it was pretty cool to make a video comparing 2/11 and 9/11.

      To anyone who really watches the whole 2/11 game and understands the context of the 10/16 and 2/2 games, the hype about Islander “thuggery” is way overblown. Pens were taking cheap shots at Islanders throughout the game and it was a cheap shot at JT that made Gillies go off the deep end. He and Martin did some things they should not have and were punished for it. No Pens were punished for the cheap shot that gave Hillen a concussion and the Pens were not fined as is usually the case when a player goes over the boards. The whining here is all by Pens fans.

      You also know nothing about the Islanders as a team now. Any truly objective observers–including Pens fans on this thread–realizes that the Islanders are putting together an impressive array of talent and are about to become very very good. That doesnt guarantee a Cup–or Cups–but I am very confident.

      Finally, you have no clue whatsoever about the prospects of the Islanders moving.Many cities–QC, KC, and others–would love to have the Islanders move there, but it isnt happening. Wang has said that he is committed to keeping the team in NY. Even if he were to change his mind, the NHL, the NYR, and the NJD would all oppose the move. In all likelihood, the team will either stay in Uniondale or move to Queens when their lease ends in 2015.

      Before you post a comment on any subject, you might want to actually LEARN something about it, BOZO!

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