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	<title>Comments on: Official benefits: How NHL teams have been drawing and taking penalties since the lockout</title>
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		<title>By: James O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/24/official-benefits-how-nhl-teams-have-been-drawing-and-taking-penalties-since-the-lockout/comment-page-1/#comment-14298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James O'Brien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for catching that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for catching that.</p>
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		<title>By: quizguy66</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[quizguy66]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Panthers had the worst relationship, but the most interesting/disturbing part is that most of the damage was done in the last two seasons (-209 disparity between 09-10 and 10-11). &quot;

Um, unless the chart has the wrong headers, the Panthers were -209 in the FIRST 2 years after the lockout 05-06 and 06-07.

I am now a bit less worried about DeBoer (unless of course, you know, those headers are wrong).

-QG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Panthers had the worst relationship, but the most interesting/disturbing part is that most of the damage was done in the last two seasons (-209 disparity between 09-10 and 10-11). &#8221;</p>
<p>Um, unless the chart has the wrong headers, the Panthers were -209 in the FIRST 2 years after the lockout 05-06 and 06-07.</p>
<p>I am now a bit less worried about DeBoer (unless of course, you know, those headers are wrong).</p>
<p>-QG</p>
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		<title>By: quizguy66</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[quizguy66]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a side note, I&#039;m now terrified of what&#039;s going to happen penalty-wise for my Devils given that they&#039;ve just hired the Panthers former coach!

-QG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a side note, I&#8217;m now terrified of what&#8217;s going to happen penalty-wise for my Devils given that they&#8217;ve just hired the Panthers former coach!</p>
<p>-QG</p>
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		<title>By: quizguy66</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[quizguy66]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Totally not surprised that the Devils were last in both Power Play opportunities as well as Power Plays against.  Woulda bet $ on it before even seeing the stats.  I go to a ton of Devils games and penalty-free periods are the rule more than the exception it seems.

For all the complaints about the Devils &quot;ruining&quot; hockey with the trap, we&#039;ve always played clean in terms of clutching and grabbing (see Florida for the opposite example) and these numbers bear that out.  I&#039;ve always thought the lack of penalties committed by the Devils has hurt us in terms of infractions called against the other team (the dreaded &quot;evening out&quot; as it were).  For the hell of it, I looked at the correlation between PF and PA in the above table and found a +.21 positive correlation (basically meaningless).

I would be curious what the distribution of penalties called across all games - to see how often teams get the same number close to the same number of power plays.  

-QG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally not surprised that the Devils were last in both Power Play opportunities as well as Power Plays against.  Woulda bet $ on it before even seeing the stats.  I go to a ton of Devils games and penalty-free periods are the rule more than the exception it seems.</p>
<p>For all the complaints about the Devils &#8220;ruining&#8221; hockey with the trap, we&#8217;ve always played clean in terms of clutching and grabbing (see Florida for the opposite example) and these numbers bear that out.  I&#8217;ve always thought the lack of penalties committed by the Devils has hurt us in terms of infractions called against the other team (the dreaded &#8220;evening out&#8221; as it were).  For the hell of it, I looked at the correlation between PF and PA in the above table and found a +.21 positive correlation (basically meaningless).</p>
<p>I would be curious what the distribution of penalties called across all games &#8211; to see how often teams get the same number close to the same number of power plays.  </p>
<p>-QG</p>
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		<title>By: polegojim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[polegojim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No conspiracy at all James.  

Red Wings explanation is clear - +91 in special teams opps; #5 in league in producing PP opps....but #23 in goals against ave.  That&#039;s the disparity.

Their +91 opps had to make up for their weakness at even strength 5:5 defense and goal tending. Howard had a weak season - #5 in record but #36 in goals against. Wings offense had to rescue weaker D and Goal-tending.  

Jimmy&#039;s coming into his own and performed better in the playoffs. 2011-12 he&#039;ll return to 2.20 ave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No conspiracy at all James.  </p>
<p>Red Wings explanation is clear &#8211; +91 in special teams opps; #5 in league in producing PP opps&#8230;.but #23 in goals against ave.  That&#8217;s the disparity.</p>
<p>Their +91 opps had to make up for their weakness at even strength 5:5 defense and goal tending. Howard had a weak season &#8211; #5 in record but #36 in goals against. Wings offense had to rescue weaker D and Goal-tending.  </p>
<p>Jimmy&#8217;s coming into his own and performed better in the playoffs. 2011-12 he&#8217;ll return to 2.20 ave.</p>
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		<title>By: derpdederpdederp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[derpdederpdederp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[interesting post, but I would also like to know which referees are calling the most minor penalties. with guys like Kerry Fraser retiring it&#039;s hard to know which officials to groan about when you hear they&#039;re officiating your team&#039;s game]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting post, but I would also like to know which referees are calling the most minor penalties. with guys like Kerry Fraser retiring it&#8217;s hard to know which officials to groan about when you hear they&#8217;re officiating your team&#8217;s game</p>
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