Comments on: Red Wings goalie Chris Osgood retires after 17 seasons; Is he a Hall of Famer?

By: ready4jets

ready4jets — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:44:14 +0000

Eric Lindros and Pavel Bure were the faces of the whole NHL in their prime and aren’t in the Hall and some of you want an average Goaltender like Osgood? Ridiculous.

By: ready4jets

ready4jets — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:31:49 +0000

for the record, I don’t believe Richter should be in the Hall, I just believe he was a better goalie than Osgood ever was. What you don’t seem to understand is Cups and Wins are team stats and career length stats.

Maybe we should put Craig MacTavish in there (Sarcasm Intended).

By: scoops1

scoops1 — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:48:05 +0000

ready4jets – Jul 20, 2011 at 12:46 AM
Hextall, Richter, Vachon, Van Biesbrouck, Ranford, Vernon, and Hasek all deserve it more than Osgood. Plus current players Brodeur, Thomas, and Miller all have been much better than Osgood
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Are you friggin Serious???

Richter is only popular cause he played in NYR. One of the most overrated goalies ever. One Cup and 301 wins and you want in the HOF????? He won his cup on a team that was made up of the Ex-Oilers and Brian Leetch

By: guypatsfan

guypatsfan — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:38:29 +0000

Osgood reminds me of Mark Recchi. A very good player but not great player who stuck around long enough to amass some nice statistics, get his name on the Stanley Cup and have a nice career in the process. A Hall of Famer? No. A Hall of the Very Good? Yes, definitely.

By: ready4jets

ready4jets — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:10:48 +0000

Arguably his best statistical season was 2007/08 where he was 19th in wins, and Craig Hiller, Dan Ellis, Ty conklin, J.S. Giguere, Marc-Andre Fleury, Tim Thomas, Martin Brodeur, Nik Backstrom, Cris Huet, Ilya Bryzgalov, Carey Price, Pascal Leclaire, Thomas Vokoun, Wade Dubielewicz, Martin Biron, Roberto Luongo, and Kari Lehtonen all had better Save Percentages that year.

I mean, c’mon PHT look a little deeper into stats if that’s your basis.

By: ready4jets

ready4jets — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 04:46:54 +0000

Hextall, Richter, Vachon, Van Biesbrouck, Ranford, Vernon, and Hasek all deserve it more than Osgood. Plus current players Brodeur, Thomas, and Miller all have been much better than Osgood.

By: ready4jets

ready4jets — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 04:18:24 +0000

Team and career stats are very misleading. How about Osgood has never been a top 5 player on his own team, and I’d struggle to find a season where he was a top ten Goalie. Who’s next Kris Draper? Maltby?

Pfffft.

By: stakex

stakex — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 02:28:56 +0000

Well a 2.49 career GAA and .905% are pretty solid…. but they aren’t amazing.

Compare those numbers to Dominik Hasek: 2.20 GAA / .922 S%, or Martin Brodeur: 2.22 GAA / .918 S%…. and they don’t look amazing. In fairness they are fairly close to Patrick Roy’s numbers, but that still does not make them amazing numbers for a career.

With that said, they aren’t bad enought to keep him out of the HoF by any means, and yes…. getting the Islanders to the playoffs is a pretty amazing accomplishment these days.

By: emperorzero

emperorzero — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:41:51 +0000

I think the 400 wins has to get him in the HoF. Yes, the Detroit teams were quite good (hard to admit for an Avalanche fan), but let’s not act like the Wings were winning games by the score of 9-8. He let in some dubious goals in the playoffs, but let’s also remember some of those failures came in his first three seasons in the league. I think he was much more consistant in his second tenure with the Wings and bailing out Hasek (one of the greatest ever) should count for something on the resume. And winning 30 with the Islanders – sorry, that’s just amazing when looking at how bad that team has been since about ’93.

By: donttouchthedirtypenny

donttouchthedirtypenny — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:04:12 +0000

By: sportsinhd

sportsinhd — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:28:42 +0000

If the Wings had beaten the Pens a few years ago he would have won the Conn Smythe, just saying, and I’m a Pens fan.

Osgood had a great career and was a great and very good for 17 years. He should get in without a fight.

By: Jordan Reis

Jordan Reis — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:02:51 +0000

Roy, Brodeur and Belfour all played in front of a bunch of bums!

Worst argument EVER!

By: Jordan Reis

Jordan Reis — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:00:08 +0000

Yes! if Eddie Giacomin is in then there is no reason that Osgood shouldn’t be

By: polegojim

polegojim — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:54:17 +0000

Yes – great goalie in his prime, good goalie even out of his prime.

@22bju – his results are his results. Does a good goalie win on a bad team? Where’s the logic?

I contend he made the lines better by providing them the ability to attack, when with most goalies, you leave the defenders back. His numbers might even be better if they left the defenders back more, but because of his strength, they left him on an island more often, leading to more goals.

By: 22bju

22bju — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:24:48 +0000

No, No, No……….. He only wins most of those games because of the stacked lineups Detroit had.

I’m not even an Osgood hater, I think he was sharp goalie from time to time, but he is not a Hall of Famer

By: cshearing

cshearing — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:49:59 +0000

I would vote no. I understand the “classy guy” comments, but those things do not make one a HOFer.

By: cmutimmah

cmutimmah — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:40:38 +0000

stakex
FYI – His GAA and S% is actually higher than a lot of the listed goalies… not sure how it could be better (aside from him giving up the occasional weak goal, which every goalie does… ain’t the right, Luongo lovers?)

He most certainly deserves to be in the hall. Aside from the great Wings teams he was on, he got the effing Isles into the playoffs. I don’t think they’ve been there since!

He’s wasn’t the best goalie of his time, but being above average for 15 years+ is HOF worthy.

By: trbowman

trbowman — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:30:04 +0000

By: stakex

stakex — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:58:20 +0000

Given his numbers, I can’t see how he wouldn’t eventually find his way into the HoF.

Sure, given the team he was playing with he probably should have won more cups then he has, but that can be said about a lot of goalies. Hell look at Brodeur. Not a year goes by (maybe last year) in which hes not playing behind one of the best teams in the league…. yet he has many a choke jobs in the playoffs, and “only” three cups to show for it. Does that mean he shouldn’t be in the HoF one day? Of course not.

Osgood’s GAA and S% could be better, but his overall numbers and accomplisments speak for themselves. A lot of people in the HoF have done a lot less, so there shouldn’t be a huge debate here.

By: arizonawingnut

arizonawingnut — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:30:35 +0000

He should go to HOF, if not only for his quality of play, but for his 100% total dedication and professionalism to hockey. Class act true and through.

We’ll miss ya Chris, at least on the ice. You will be one fine coach, that is for certain. Kudos to Mr Holland for his support in maintaining your presence in Motown.