Comments on: Does the hockey world need to judge Norris and Selke Trophy candidates differently?

By: rushbacker

rushbacker — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:59:25 +0000

Seriously. We’re all breathlessly awating your brilliant and insightful analysis, Kylely.

By: bobwsc

bobwsc — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:07:30 +0000

get clued in on how to spell genius. at least O’Brien is in the ‘no’ on how to spell.

By: govtminion

govtminion — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:41:03 +0000

Fair enough. Please, make them look bad by explaining the Selke trophy qualifications now as opposed to a couple of decades ago. Go on, please, I’d love to see what you think that makes you so much better than these guys.

By: sknut

sknut — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:11:45 +0000

People get lazy and resort to norms, it easy to understand how great of a Player Lindstrom is and thus wins it on reputation, but the numbers don’t lie. Chara and Weber were both more deserving.

Same goes with the Selke, one of the great things about the NHL is guys who play a role ie. defensive forward to play in certain situations and does his job well, not just guys who score a lot.

By: demons87

demons87 — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:04:47 +0000

If Lidstrom’s imminent retirement wasn’t the talk all year long, does he win the Norris? Is he even a finalist?

It just seems odd that a defenseman who was on the ice for more non-special teams goals scored against his team than his team scored would be the best defenseman in hockey.

You can say that +/- is a meaningless stat, but when your opponents defense is keeping more goals out of their net than you are out of yours, it’s hard to say that you are the best. Your job is primarily to keep the puck out of your teams net.

By: kylely

kylely — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:24:49 +0000

That is why you work for NBC. You, NBC, and Versus are a clueless bunch of characters that try to cover the NHL, and absolutley no nothing about the sport!!!

By: hystoracle

hystoracle — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:59:30 +0000

Selke should have nothing to do with scoring, period. It’s a defensive award. Scoring 50 goals or 2 goals should have no bearing on it. Have 100 points or 10 points – no bearing on it. There are a lot of guys in this league that are true defensive forwards that get no recognition. They might finish with 10-15 goals and be plus 5 to 15. But they are out there night in & night out against the other teams best lines. I think the Selke award was created to recognize those guys. If you want a best two way forward award create a new one for that.

By: warpstonebc

warpstonebc — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:29:02 +0000

Kesler may not have been the shut down guy, but he always took the first shift on every penalty kill and the Canucks had one of the best PKs in the league. At the very least, he’s in the same category as Toews and Datsyuk in terms of in-game usage.

But Lidstrom. Oi. Just boggles the mind how he beats out Chara or Weber.