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Poll results: LeBron James is more annoying than Ilya Kovalchuk

Jul 8, 2010, 10:10 PM EDT

While LeBron James made his choice (the Miami Heat), Ilya Kovalchuk still sits on the fence.

PHT readers didn’t sit on the fence, though, when we asked them which contract situation was more annoying. “King James” won by a landslide. Take a look in the poll below. (Click to enlarge.)

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So, chin up, Ilya. You might not end up getting that Ovechkin-beating 10-year, $100 million contract … but at least hockey fans think you’re less annoying than LeBron.

That has to count for something, right?

  1. Burnsy - Jul 8, 2010 at 10:37 PM

    This guy is just another ego tripping N.B.A. basketball player.The
    same as Bosh,Carter etc..Thank God our N.H.L. players do not act in
    this manner,too much class and dignity.James knew weeks ago where
    he was heade but decided to make a 3 ring circus out of it at the
    expence of the loyal Cav’s and Knick fans.I’d like to see him and
    the other flake Bosh go down the toilet next season,where they both belong.

  2. jack - Jul 8, 2010 at 10:41 PM

    Burnsy. Most Americans do not give two shits about hockey. LeBron James is incredibly talented and fun to watch. Go eat a puck moron.

  3. Lebrown James - Jul 8, 2010 at 11:14 PM

    NBA sucks. Kovalchuk is god.

  4. Rob - Jul 9, 2010 at 12:05 AM

    Hockey is a much more difficult sport than basketball. This was proven in a scientific study. Hockey players generaly come from good backgrounds and have educations. The NBA is full of illiterate baffoons. Many end up losing the millions they made because they have no clue on how to handle money. Basketball is just much more popular in the US because of cost. The reason soccer is the most popular sport in the world is because all you need is a ball and a few cones or trash cans to play. Jack is obviously a jackass.

  5. Greg - Jul 9, 2010 at 12:08 AM

    Thats why youre posting on a hockey website dipshit. Go crawl back under your rock.

  6. Toby - Jul 9, 2010 at 12:14 AM

    Rob,
    That was a pretty generalized statement you made. Would you mind providing the source of this said “scientific study”? Wiki doesn’t count by the way.

  7. Dave - Jul 9, 2010 at 12:35 AM

    The NBA has no defense. Once the players leave college, they become completely indifferent towards covering their man. If players would just play defense, they would not have to score 85-115 points per game. It’s absurd. In hockey, three or four goals nets you win, no pun intended.
    Kovy better come back to New Jersey. Gotta support the team. We’re the Devils, the Devils!

  8. ChrisLeo - Jul 9, 2010 at 12:48 AM

    Put Lebron on skates, he would get his lunch taken daily
    the rest of the world could care less about either, so eat both u moron

  9. Anonymous - Jul 9, 2010 at 12:59 AM

    I cant comment what scientific study he commented on, but its true what he said. Its the only actual athletic sport played on an unatural surface. What is impressive about a 6 foot 8 guy dunking a ball into a ten foot hoop. Nothin really atletic about that. Not to mention its the worlds largest ‘atletes’ and a whistle gets blown if u put a hand on a guys back. Bunch of pussies. Thay should wear skirts. Fouling a guy at the end a game is an actual strategy, thats all you need to say! LMAO at hoops

  10. The_Emperor - Jul 9, 2010 at 1:50 AM

    Reasons basketball sucks:
    A) It takes the LEAST amount of athleticism. If you want to be a pro athlete and you suck at everything, basketball’s for you.
    B) Proof that you can be rich as heck and not even have talent. At least hockey and soccer have someone getting in the way of the ball/puck.
    C) “Oh my god! He brushed my shoulder! FOUL!”
    D) It is THE MOST RACIST GAME ON EARTH!

  11. bbb - Jul 9, 2010 at 7:06 AM

    Decent reply, however you didn’t exactly spell buffoons correctly. Overall, hockey players are more athletic, steely, and tend to have longer careers. Skating and keeping yourself alive while trying to score is not something you learn at the local playground. Hockey talent is developed and nurtured from a young age. B-ball players aren’t pussies, but they are not in the same breath as NHL players. By the way, who watches the NBA?????

  12. Anonymous - Jul 9, 2010 at 7:53 AM

    NBA = African handball
    Enough said, if your a tall black man this is your sport. Hockey is way more physically and mentally demanding than basketball, but the point of this post is about Lebron and Kovy, of course the overpaid jig is more annoying, 95% of NBA’s athletes have no class and everything is some sort of publicity stunt, in my opinion basketball is a dying sport.

  13. Michael Jackson - Jul 9, 2010 at 9:10 AM

    The African Ballet

  14. Jerzy's Finest - Jul 9, 2010 at 10:04 AM

    Basketball Sucks!
    – the sport is rigged
    – the fouls at the end of the game are boring
    – the players look like they came out of a gang
    – They’re supposed to be professionals and role models and they don’t act as such
    – And Jay-Z is a Tool

  15. green - Jul 9, 2010 at 10:06 AM

    Well put.

  16. Nick - Jul 9, 2010 at 10:12 AM

    Jack, go fuck yourself, hockey is the most challenging,strategic and exciting of all sports, who cares about asshole lebron and where he is gonna go next just to fail in the early rounds of the playoffs. at least hockey fans have class and dignity which is something people like you, and other people who hate hockey for no reason do not have, your a scumbag

  17. NikolaiNYR - Jul 9, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    Holy crap, I never realized how much racism there was among hockey fans… I’m a little embarassed by this.
    I’m a hockey fan first, I play 2-3 times per week and I agree it may be the most challenging and frustrating sport to play (bounces of the puck can decide games). That said, we get to skate across ice whereas soccer or basketball players run nearly the whole time.
    Furthermore, a lot of what has been said on this thread sounds like it comes from Klan meetings where you got together to watch American History X and missed the point.
    If hockey fans want to claim to be classy, we have to keep it classy. Watch your comments

  18. jzbass72 - Jul 9, 2010 at 11:29 AM

    I completely agree, and I hope this classless behavior is only representative of the microcosmic fringe of NHL fans. Arguing why hockey may or may not require more skill than basketball is completely inane. They both require great skill and athleticism to play at the highest levels and the odds of making both leagues as a pro are dauntingly high.
    Athletic talent’s latency will show through no matter what sport it’s applied to in several cases. Gretzky was a first class baseball player, Joe Montana excelled at basketball in high school, Wilt Chamberlain was a track prodigy, and Jim Brown is still regarded as one of the all time great lacrosse players. If Kovalchuk had taken up basketball instead, he’d be a fine point guard with his vision and ability to think on the fly, and if Lebron had been given a stick and skates as a kid he’d be an absolutely devastating power forward.
    Reading the comments here, it seems that more of these NHL fans need to watch more of those “Hockey Is For Everyone” ads.

  19. Gulbickus - Jul 9, 2010 at 11:59 AM

    Racism? Where in these comments has anything been remotely racist? The NBA is overwhelming black. That isn’t an opinion, that isn’t just my belief. That is FACT.

  20. jzbass72 - Jul 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM

    Referring to basketball players as “illiterate buffoons”, referring to Lebron James as a “jig” (short for “jigaboo”, an extremely pejorative racial term), equating the NBA as “African handball” or “the African ballet”…
    Shall I go on?

  21. ZIBGNEW - Jul 9, 2010 at 3:12 PM

    As someone who grew up watching basketball, not hockey, I have to say I’m glad I discovered hockey. I’m so over the basketball players, their greed, their behavior on and off the court etc… This spectacle with Lebron just tips the scales.
    I do however wish the “thought policeman” NikolaiNYR would just shuttfu. I hope he has the grapefruits to stand up and shoutdown someone who says “Krackers on ice” but I highly doubt it because the race card only goes one way.

  22. zibgnew - Jul 9, 2010 at 3:14 PM

    As someone who grew up watching basketball, not hockey, I have to say I’m glad I discovered hockey. I’m so over the basketball players, their greed, their behavior on and off the court etc… This spectacle with Lebron just tips the scales.
    I do however wish the “thought policeman” NikolaiNYR would just shuttfu. I hope he has the grapefruits to stand up and shoutdown someone who says “Krackers on ice” but I highly doubt it because the race card only goes one way.

  23. anonymous - Jul 9, 2010 at 3:47 PM

    If you think running is more challenging than skating, then you aren’t skating hard enough!

  24. jzbass72 - Jul 9, 2010 at 3:54 PM

    The next time you see slurs hurled at white hockey players that equals the nastiness shown towards NBA players on this thread, go right ahead and point them out and I’ll be glad to shout them down. I’m consistently intolerant of intolerance.
    “The race card goes only one way”? And just what are you doing to rectify that? Paranoid much?

  25. Anonymous - Jul 9, 2010 at 5:46 PM

    Seriously, spare me your “noble” character speech. My point being I’d be willing to bet you wouldn’t feel so safe in your “high moral” aspirations if you were in a room full of black men talking about “Krackers”. Yes, of course, keep your “nobility” behind the keyboard on an all white hockey blog and you are a prince. How high minded of you, boy you are better than all of us lowly people.
    And yeah, the race card only goes one way, examples are abound of my so called “paranoia”.

  26. jzbass72 - Jul 9, 2010 at 5:59 PM

    Right, keep assuming that everyone is as cynical and cowardly as you, Anonymous. Being decent has nothing to do with being noble, but I guess you wouldn’t know about being either. You’re a race masturbator. You’re so hot for people to live down to your expectations that you’ll project so many delusions on them, however unfounded, to get yourself off. Classic, knee-jerk Archie Bunker-style ignorance.
    And I bet I’ve been in more roomfuls of black folks more than you ever will. Have you ever even talked to a black person? I can assure you that they don’t pull out the AK-47’s whenever you disagree with them. but that goes against your preconceived fantasies, doesn’t it?

  27. Anonymous - Jul 9, 2010 at 6:40 PM

    Typical stupid response from “whitey”. “I bet I’ve been in more roomfuls of black folks more than you ever will” Did you seriously just write such a stupid sentence.
    No sir, you are the “race masturbator” you on your high perch call me. I accept people for who they are and know they for the most part are decent and do live up to expectations, I don’t “project delusions” onto them, you do that perfectly.
    You are so brainwashed and have real “delusions” about what’s proper language,feelings and emotions in regards to race and who steps outside the boundaries you have set is deemed an “archie bunker” racist who has never encountered a black person. If that isn’t a stereotype I don’t know what is.
    You and your ilk coming on here and calling other’s racist, for saying what “african ballet”? Or “illiterate Baffon”?
    The difference between you and I is that I would laugh at the joke “Krackers on ice” because it’s funny and we can laugh at ourselves, just like “african Ballet” is funny. I don’t pretend one race has special protections that others don’t get. Real racisim exits but it’s not behind every word, nook and sofa cushion. I wouldn’t call any of the above racists because I think they are all probably decent humans, you are the ones condeming them to hell because they don’t live up to your delusions.

  28. jzbass72 - Jul 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM

    “I accept people for who they are and know they for the most part are decent and do live up to expectations, I don’t “project delusions” onto them”
    Uh-huh, which is why you’d assume that white people would shrink from disagreeing with a roomful of black people calling hockey “crackers on ice” And what’s you’re proof that black people can’t laugh at themselves? I’d love to hear your theories on that one.
    And there are plenty of hilarious ways to lampoon race and class distinctions. None of them are to be found here. Your sense of humor is as primitive as your “I’m just calling it like I see it” barstool knuckle dragging.
    “I wouldn’t call any of the above racists because I think they are all probably decent humans, you are the ones condeming them to hell because they don’t live up to your delusions.”
    Trust me, they’re living DOWN to my illusions. I’d be much more impressed with a takedown based on a lack of character rather than just calling someone a racial slur. You’re just satisfied with the slur because you pine for the days when whole races of people could be put in their place with a derogatory word. Sorry, but the Fifties aren’t coming back anytime soon.

  29. Anonymous - Jul 9, 2010 at 7:34 PM

    “Trust me, they’re living DOWN to my illusions”
    -Yes, of course they are because as I stated it’s your delusions and emotions that drive your rants. I don’t THINK white people such as YOU would shrink and laugh along with the “Kracker” joke, I KNOW, becase I’ve seen it time and time again and if you were honest with yourself you know you would have a good laugh at the joke. But you rather live in the lofty clouds of the delusional mind with your emotions running rampant.
    I don’t recall saying black people couldn’t laugh at themselves but if you want to rub that comment off on me to make your case go ahead. I knew the next step in your ravings of a mad white man would be to go “primitive”. Yes, I’m primitive and you are what? Evolved? You couldn’t be more typical and couldn’t prove my point more. You the evolved man of the ages appealing to the “knuckle dragging” racists and trying to pull us up the ladder to “your level” of evolution. Don’t you deserve a medal or something? You’re so good! Isn’t that what you want to hear, what this is all for?
    My whole time here I’ve never made one comment against another race, yet you attributed much racism to me. Simply because of a difference of opinion. It is you who is dangerous to society, you who doesn’t believe in free spreech, you would censor everything if you could. People like you are a danger, and you don’t see yourself for what you are, you believe you are acting on behalf of everyone’s best interest, so you are more dangerous than someone saying “african ballet”.
    I stated I didn’t like the “thought police” prowling message boards and damning and smearing people with words such as racist when they are not justified. I’ve argued that point and you are the one that has made countless smears because you are unable to debate on merits or with intelligence.
    Racism is a serious thing, I don’t use it as baton to beat people with, and screaming it constantly weakens real racism. You know the story, the boy who cried wolfe.

  30. Phillip Morris - Jul 10, 2010 at 12:03 PM

    LeBron James, King His Own World
    LeBron James is a grown man who made a grownup decision to take his massive basketball-playing ability from Cleveland to Miami in a desire to get the one thing every true baller desires: the opportunity to call yourself a champion.
    Forget all the nonsense about him “owing” his hometown and how his legacy could have been cemented had he stayed in the Midwest and continued to try to win a title in Cleveland. LeBron had the absolute right to pick up his things and go where he thought it was best to win, and he did it.
    Enough with all of this ridiculous chatter that he’s a selfish, spoiled basketball prodigy. LeBron was an employee of the Cleveland Cavaliers. He had no ownership stake and no control. Everyone talks about what his presence meant to the Cleveland economy. Did he own any of those businesses? No. But he made them, and the Cavaliers, richer by his play.
    There is undoubtedly a tradeoff, because being a star athlete is a two-way street.
    You become richer by virtue of folks coming to see you play, and the league, team, marketers and surrounding businesses get to piggyback off of your success. LeBron gave them a solid seven seasons, and everyone enjoyed the ride. Say thank you for the LeBron gravy train, and now, like any smart business owner, you need to figure out your next revenue stream.
    Now, let’s deal with the fans.
    I read with fascination about how LeBron “owed” the fans. Really?
    What exactly did he owe them?
    We need to stop with this belief that fans in a city “own” a particular player. We get to sit back and enjoy the skills of these modern-day gladiators in our gleaming new Coliseums, while they bust their butts, play injured and have to take all of the criticism when things go bad.
    As fans, we justify it all by saying, “Well, he’s getting millions to play, so he should shut up.”
    We need to grow up and realize that once his playing days are over, we will say, “Thanks, LeBron, now move over so we can worship the next stud.” In fact, when a particular athlete has overstayed their welcome, the fans are the loudest in telling him to leave the court.
    To me, there is a huge difference between a player like LeBron James and Albert Haynesworth of the Washington Redskins. Albert has pocketed nearly $40 million and has refused to show up at training sessions with Washington because he doesn’t like the defensive scheme. That is dumb.
    LeBron showed up and did his part, and when his contract was up, he exercised his free will to do as he pleased and shop his talents. He did what every single American wants: to go to a new job where the desires you always wanted can be fulfilled. So how is that wrong?
    No one — athlete, stockbroker, Wal-Mart greeter, grocery store clerk, secretary, journalist — wants to be treated like they are a piece of property. We all desire the freedom that comes with making our own choice as to where we want to work and achieve the goals in life that we all set.
    I can identify with that. In 1993, I decided to leave the Austin American-Statesman, where I was the county government reporter. The then-city editor sat across from me and said, “I felt like it was a punch in the gut when told you were leaving.” He had an indignant, paternalistic tone that I found offensive.
    See, I was making $24,000. When the Houston Chronicle pursued me for a job a few months earlier that would be around $27,000, I was told I was talking myself out of a job in Austin. So when the Fort Worth Star-Telegram offered me a gig at $32,000, I didn’t even bother seeing whether Austin wanted to counter. The new job allowed me to go to a bigger market and have the upward mobility I desired, so I took the job.
    So I told the city editor, “Look, you didn’t take some kid off the street, teach him how to talk, write and dress. You paid me for a service, and I delivered. Now I’m choosing to take my skills elsewhere.” I then got up and left the meeting.
    It was offensive to me that my bosses at the paper felt like I was being an ungrateful employee. I wanted to do more with my talents, and I refused to allow someone to make me feel bad about my decision. It’s my life, my career, my choice. So how is that bad?
    Now I get folks who didn’t like LeBron having a one-hour special to announce his decision. But we are all used to the hype in sports. Do we really need a six-hour pregame show for the Super Bowl? Can’t we play the NBA All-Star Game without all of the side attractions? Would boxing be boxing without the wild and crazy news conferences? Hype and sports go hand-in-hand.
    That’s why I found the letter written by Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert so pathetic. Here is a man who was enriched by the play of LeBron James; according to Forbes, the value of the franchise increased by $100 million with his on-court performance.
    Yet instead of being a gracious owner and simply reaffirming his commitment to the fans to put a winning team on the court, Gilbert ripped LeBron to shreds, calling him “narcissistic” and his decision to leave a “cowardly betrayal” and “a shameful display of selfishness.”
    Gilbert even went on to trash all athletes by saying, “It’s time for people to hold these athletes accountable for their actions. Is this the way you raise your children?”
    In an interview, Gilbert later said LeBron quit on the team in the playoffs the past two years.
    Really? So if he was all of that, Dan, why did you want to re-sign him? Who wants a quitter on his team? If LeBron had chosen to stay in Cleveland, rich boy Dan would have been all smiles, slapping his back, getting ready to count the money he could make off of the back of LeBron. So who would have been the real selfish, narcissistic individual, Dan?
    Gilbert now says it’s time to speak out against LeBron, yet as long as James made him richer, he would have kept quiet. Sorry, Dan, you’ve pimped LeBron long enough.
    LeBron showed Dan Gilbert that only LeBron owes LeBron an explanation. No owner, CEO or boss has the right to demand that someone stay as an employee. The employee has a right to live their life as they see fit.
    As the CEO of LeBron James Inc., he did what’s in the best of interest of him. And as the most important shareholder, isn’t that what he’s supposed to do?
    I’m sorry, folks, but the loyalty that used to exist from teams and companies is gone. Some still believe in it, but for many of us, we’re simply a dot on the spreadsheet. Business is cutthroat, and we have to accept that reality.
    So, King James, go to Miami and do your thing. Grow your corporation to be as big as you want it to be. And never look back at the haters who are mad you chose not to act like a highly paid indentured servant or 21st-century slave, held in place by the invisible shackles dressed up as loyalty to a city, owing the fans and satisfying someone who is clearly an ungrateful owner.

  31. Rob - Jul 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM

    The Lebron decision was ridiculous. You have to have a huge ego to have a show on who you decide to sign with. Who’s ever done that before? Of course it makes sense that a basketball player would be the first. I could care less about who he decided to play with, the show itself is what was annoying. This is why Hockey players will continue to be the classier between the two athletes.

  32. niiice! - Jul 11, 2010 at 4:22 AM

    Though I’m already sided towards one side of the debate, and I’m sure based on what I have just ready Anonymous doesn’t need the confirmation, but I still say he wins this argument hands down.
    I personally think P.C is one of the biggest disgraces on our nation that “values free speech” so much. I would call someone a nig (in the vast number of cases not to their face) in the same breathe that I would call someone white-trash, as I consider the words to be synonyms of one another just for each race in turn.
    Just because you may label someone as either of those things doesn’t discriminate towards either entire race though. I have black friends white friends Mexican friends, and you know what? Any of them would say this too that there are people that are black, white, brown whatever that are the words that people like you term as “racist” because you feel it is your noble birth-right to protect an entire people against someone calling a select group out for their ridiculous behavior.
    Eminem, A-rod, and Floyd “I refer to myself in the 3rd person” Mayweather
    just because I would call any of those three out as the “racist” names I feel personally they justly deserve from their actions doesn’t make someone racist it makes you someone entitles to your own opinion and your own ability to express that belief about those people.

  33. Wow..... - Jul 13, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    niiice,
    I officially feel so much dumber after reading your post. It may have been the most ignorant thing I have ever read. Each time I gain faith in humanity people like you show your faces and remind me of where we really are, not much further than we were in the 50’s. I’m actually saddened with myself that I am even entertaining your ignorance with a reply.

  34. USHA#17 - Jul 19, 2010 at 1:14 AM

    “Basketball is mostly black”
    So? China is mostly Chinese…and they don’t play hockey much either.
    You can damn the sports (respectively) but I be damned if I don’t damn you for damning one’s color.
    You guys are like a bad comedian who can’t get a laugh so he resorts to obscenities and attacks members of the audience.

  35. mt6pac57 - Jul 19, 2010 at 9:32 PM

    after reading all these comments .what was the question?

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